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"Short Hop" or "Small Jump"
- Thread starter Kelexo
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StealthFighterX
Smash Journeyman
Short hop will be used...forever! I mean its been used for a super long time. I dont see any reason to stop calling it that.
Crystallion
Smash Ace
Well, it has been called "short hop" for a long time now, so I don't think "short hop" will be changed into "small jump", it sounds way cooler that way 
I don't really care, I guess I will call it by both names
I don't really care, I guess I will call it by both namesMikezor
Smash Journeyman
Small jump sounds like something a random soccer mom who knows nothing about smash would call a short hop.
MrLegend
Smash Apprentice
I'd rather use small jump. Since Sakurai is giving them names, I don't see why not. We are doing it for Tether Recoveries. The only reason we stop using official names is if they are mouthfuls like reflector.
Terrorcon Blot
Smash Journeyman
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Small jump, if only because "short hop" is a redundant statement. Unless someone here knows how to do a "long hop".
'Short Jump' makes more sense, as a jump by connotation is usually long, whereas a hop is comparatively short.
However I'll stick with short hop, as it's what I'm used to and I say the fans get veto on decisions like this, so too bad for Sakurai.
StealthFighterX
Smash Journeyman
Short hop sounds better and again its the smash slang for god knows how long...
Brav3r
Smash Journeyman
imo it feel more like a half jump raather than small
anyway the same question could be asked about
"Ukemi" and teching
anyway the same question could be asked about
"Ukemi" and teching
HuskytheGeek
Smash Journeyman
Short hop sounds much better. Small jump doesn't roll off the tongue quite the same way.
kenkowtow
Smash Apprentice
Tomato and Potato. People on the boards will know what it means either way.
Brav3r
Smash Journeyman
yeah sakurai is late in naming some of the basic techninques
Lovage 805
Smash Champion
Who cares, both work, no one will hear "short jump" and be confused. I'll keep saying short hop because its what I've said for 2 years.
Crevelyan
Smash Cadet
Japanese translated to English isn't always perfect anyway.
Black/Light
Smash Master
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I will use Small Jump.
Not only did Sakurai himself name it that but the term "short hop" always sounded really stupid to me. A hop its self is short so a short hop wouldn't even be a hop as much as a pop bearly at tippy toe level which makes the term a redundant statement.
Not only did Sakurai himself name it that but the term "short hop" always sounded really stupid to me. A hop its self is short so a short hop wouldn't even be a hop as much as a pop bearly at tippy toe level which makes the term a redundant statement.
Shapechanger
Smash Apprentice
What's a short hop?
All I know are jumps, and "Slightly Lower Jumps".
-Samus Player
All I know are jumps, and "Slightly Lower Jumps".
-Samus Player
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
It's HIS game, technically YOUR the soccer mom ;p
darkatma
Smash Hero
keep in mind sakurai is japanese and that the english site is basically a translation of the japanese site. Their terms are pretty simple because of that.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Excluding the obvious fact the name (Short Hop) is a double positive (or whatever it would be called)
Hop means short jump...
That would make a "short hop" a "short short jump."
DarkSpidey13
Smash Ace
mmm....yeah. i feel ya.
Blackshadow
Smash Ace
Anyone who makes the argument that since Sakurai named it, it should be called that, should now get used to calling teching Ukemi lest they don't like being hypocritical. >_>
I'll use Short Jump since it is the official name now, and ill use Ukemi too. Althought it may have a weaboo ring to it, it just sounds better.
Yes, actually. Captain Falcon can jump over a relatively long distance with a small, vertically speaking, hop.
Short Hop is a better name in my opinion, other names he proposes may be used. I think Teching and Short Hop will remain in place of Sakurai's crap names, and the others will be assimilated.
Ukemi is probably the worst name he used. It can't easily be used as a verb, because it's a noun. Meaning we would use phrases like "I got stomped by Falcon, but by Ukemi-ing I was able to get out of the way of the second stomp."
Teching is much more user-friendly in this aspect, besides the fact it has more history, 1 less letter to type, and is only 1 syllable, compared to Ukemi's 3 syllables.
Oh, and hi Kelexo! I didn't notice that you posted this at first. I'm that guy on your X-Fire friend list that you rarely talk to. =\
Black/Light
Smash Master
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Ukemi sounds better to me personally anyway seeing as it's a actual word for a falling recovery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx4GLiyPZz0
Look at his Ukemi!
DarkSpidey13
Smash Ace
"Ukemi" makes more sense than "tech." i'll probably use both terms, but it will take a while to get used to the new one.
The Great Leon
Smash Champion
Sakurai didn't name these terms in English. Nate Beedledorf just translated them for us. Do you really want Nate Beedledorf to dictate your lingo?
Cranberry Rogue
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, short hop just sounds cooler. That's all there is to it.
Mama
Smash Ace
Simple answer. Because the "pros" and tourney players use the term short hop. Most of the people who were against any for of advanced technique will clamor for small jumping. And I find it funny that the some argue "Short hop? then what is a long hop?" Well whats a big jump?
Anyway the fans have already named this technique so they'll stick with it. Sakurai's word is not law to my like the people who like to plug "the way Sakurai intended" as often as "Melee 2.0"
Anyway the fans have already named this technique so they'll stick with it. Sakurai's word is not law to my like the people who like to plug "the way Sakurai intended" as often as "Melee 2.0"
IWontGetOverTheDam
Smash Lord
I hate the term "short hop" because people try to pass it off as an advanced technique. It's not. It's a basic element in just about any game that involves jumping. Are you trying to tell me that "Super Mario Bros." was a highly technical game?
gn0m
Smash Cadet
Short hop or small jump - a truly important question indeed! Regardless of what term people will choose to use, I am happy that this important matter is finally discussed!
PanzerOceania
Smash Ace
this man is correct, it's just analog jump (hold it down longer for bigger jump) as apposed to a digital, hit jump = standard hight jump.
I think it's funny, everyone is talking like this is a new name but I bet they've been calling it this since the original smash. It could be a rough translation but I doubt it. Everyone is like "our term is older fools" but I bet it isn't, we were just ignorant about the official name until now. Why so resistant to change? Noobs cry about them all being real moves, but it's equally hilarious to all the pros saying " that name is the gay, I will cry and call it whatever the hell I named it" I mean seriously?
Mr.Shmearo
Smash Rookie
I'll use what I've been saying for 3 years. Short Hop.