Shiny's Mario Mafia - Game Over! Town + FireEmbleminer Victory!

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I can see scum wanting to **** town over by trying to meddle with state of affairs, but honestly I take this as a W regardless of what happens

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm not shooting anyone, I'm just gonna hide in my shell until game is resolved through day

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I just find it a shame that I'm being lynched, even though I gave more then reasonable explanation on how I can't be Bard's ally.
But whatevs given the the role I have I've won since n1

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Just prolonging the game for another 48 hours, really lol

 

[Pokechu]

yeah why are we lynching fire? like i get that if his wincon is like bard's if he's alive town loses, but why do we think his wincon is like bard? just because he's third party?

it wouldn't make sense for his role to be "You are King Boo's rival, and your goal is to get rid of the King's cult of Boos that will render the town's loss at the end of the game. But if you live to the end of the game, town loses."

 

[Fire Emblemier]

yeah why are we lynching fire? like i get that if his wincon is like bard's if he's alive town loses, but why do we think his wincon is like bard? just because he's third party?

it wouldn't make sense for his role to be "You are King Boo's rival, and your goal is to get rid of the King's cult of Boos that will render the town's loss at the end of the game. But if you live to the end of the game, town loses."

Honestly the role should've just made me town, cause everyone else loses anyway if Bard or his cult lives. I guess in the case mafia wins I still benefit for getting rid of the threat.

I guess town doesn't want to take any chances for paranoia keeping an indy alive will stab them in the back. Though as stated, the thinking there is fueled uncertainty. And despite my efforts to show how unlikely it is that I'm evil, they rather play the safe long way instead of the slightly risky way. They don't want to jeopardize their win.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I don't think anybody really thinks Fire is likely to be a member of Boo faction. It's mechanical play, brought on by the fact that we had all of the scum handled by Day 3, which makes it seem like, "no, this was too easy, there must be more." There isn't, that would leave disgusting corner cases in a set-up already riddled with scum with very strong roles. But we have room to do it, so it's just a waste of time rather than a problem.

Bear in mind, the cult leader role that Bard flipped brings back dead players as cultists. Even if those zombie players get lynched as soon as they show up, that still eats up town's ability to lynch mafia with every wasted lynch, which would be every two Days if I'm understanding correctly. There's no room for a second pre-existing cultist, it only feels that way because our town has played such a clean game.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I just want

I don't think anybody really thinks Fire is likely to be a member of Boo faction. It's mechanical play, brought on by the fact that we had all of the scum handled by Day 3, which makes it seem like, "no, this was too easy, there must be more." There isn't, that would leave disgusting corner cases in a set-up already riddled with scum with very strong roles. But we have room to do it, so it's just a waste of time rather than a problem.

Bear in mind, the cult leader role that Bard flipped brings back dead players as cultists. Even if those zombie players get lynched as soon as they show up, that still eats up town's ability to lynch mafia with every wasted lynch, which would be every two Days if I'm understanding correctly. There's no room for a second pre-existing cultist, it only feels that way because our town has played such a clean game.

The reason town played such a clean game is by not having to deal with the boo faction at all, not to mention the fact that having night convos helped get a good picture of the overall gamestate, for example, without the nightchat with the cop, we wouldn't have gotten the suspicious claim on Vaan.

 

[Maven89]

FireEmblemnier tell us your full role

 

[Maven89]

Because there is no way the cop could have told you their night 2 result by the start of day 2

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Because there is no way the cop could have told you their night 2 result by the start of day 2

Vaan was lynched d3
I found the cop on n2

 

[Fire Emblemier]

They breadcrumbed the results to me

 

[Fire Emblemier]

My role is cappy 3rd party redirector
I can possess people by choosing them during the day and redirect their actions (which I find out) during the night.
I'm can not be targeted by night actions, any night actions used against the person I possess only affects them and not me.

My wincon was to get rid of a great evil force that threatens everyone (Bardull/King Boo)
I die if I don't possess someone.

 

[Maven89]

I found the cop too and they told me something different

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I found the cop too and they told me something different

What did they tell you?

Because on my end, after possessing them I saw they had a alignment check ability, I told them I would check Vaan, so they wouldn't be confused by their action, they wanted to check Swamp, but I thought Vaan was the best option at the time. They then laid out three different things they would say in their first post depending on if the action failed, or if vaan showed up as suspicious or clean. D3 they used the suspicious statement so I told everyone that Vaan was suspicious.

 

[Maven89]

It doesn't directly contradict what you said, actually, though you seemed to be hinting at a partnership early on by not including that you possessed them (which is what they told me) and they did not seem happy about it

 

[Fire Emblemier]

It doesn't directly contradict what you said, actually, though you seemed to be hinting at a partnership early on by not including that you possessed them (which is what they told me) and they did not seem happy about it

Yeah they weren't happy. They told me to redirect into soup at first, but I felt that just went against town too much.
I apologize if I ruined your enjoyment of the game, cop.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Hey guys, remember when FE conspicuously left Bardull out of his Day 1 recap?

Remember when he voted Maven over Bardull and justified it with the most bland non-reason post of all time?

Very wack how FE downplayed this whole thing by not mentioning it in the recap.

Reasons why I voted Maven
Deadline is close and the two biggest wagons are Bardull and him, the biggest thing against Bard is that Kary and others are making a huge deal out of him suggesting everyone to vote him out of frustration when no everyone was doing anything.
Maven has been inactive for a long time so far, where as Bard is contributing to the thread a whole lot more.
Basically my opinion of Bard is mostly null, cause there's both townie aspects of him and scummy, Maven likely won't contribute to the thread anytime soon, so I decided that having an active person taking risks is better than someone hiding in the background

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Sure, maybe FireEmbkajd is exactly what he says he is, and this is just a coincidence.
But the bottom line is, FireEmblasdas isn't town

#choochoo

 

[Deleted member]

lampy can you double soup's action tonight so we can put an end to ura and nabe

I already used it on Kary, and I can't use it again until Day 6.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

#HBC | Kary
I'm glad that you exist and all, but please don't leave issues on the table, and then pretend that you've forgotten how short the Day phase is by tossing out a #choochoo in lieu of responding.

The setup should have been tied up by now, but for some reason you're actively creating ambiguity in the game, rather than reducing it. I shouldn't be able to suspect you of being scum right now, but the way you're acting is scummy as ****.

See Soup, your suspected THIRD pre-existing cult member, for an example of how a player might act if they're really not feeling the setup, as you've claimed.

Meanwhile, you are pretending at relevancy with a robotic push on a pro-Town player, full of rhetoric, full of populism, to avoid answering the ****ing question.

FOS: Kary

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Hey, I've proven the reviver part of my role, and I've put in a massive amount of footwork this game and particularly Night 2.

What have you done? Simple, textbook, entirely mechanical play, and that's it.

Are you an indy? Probably not; you said in PMs with me that you weren't really feeling this game, which explains why you are playing like a robot. But if we're accusing someone of being a secret additional existing indy partner of a dead cult role that already recruits other players, and can win with a single member alive

Spoiler

(if it's not clear, I'm saying that it's stupid that you think this)

then that secret indy is much more likely to be you, who has said and done nothing valuable all game, and who has neglected to say even what character you are, much less comment on any of your Nights except your failed action on Yellow, which was happily replicated by the cop according to Fire, the player who has been playing a surprisingly pro-town game.

If you're town, give up your information, and let's bring this game above board so we can actually determine if there is any other threat in the game, through straightforward comparisons of everybody's Night phases, rather than acting like a paranoid **** looking into the dark for a threat that you do not know is really there.

Get the **** at this post. #HBC | Kary Hurry up.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

#HBC | Dark Horse Same thing.
You hinted at something at the start of Day 3, then decided that it wasn't important to say. If Swamp is really locked down by the mysterious third roleblocker of the game, then shouldn't it be safe for them to claim? And wouldn't it be beneficial for them to do so, so that we really can competently work out if some cultist or unknown fourth faction of lizardmen who like to say #choochoo exists?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

What the contradictions that I found by N2 have already been resolved by this point in the game

I feel like you're looking at the trees and not the forest. I don't see how you think a secret third Indy is more likely than the second Indy lying to us.

 

[Maven89]

#choo choo

Nabe throwing shade on the cop? Supporting saving a guranteed non town player who has lied?

These are the important parts

 

[Fire Emblemier]

#choo choo

Nabe throwing shade on the cop? Supporting saving a guranteed non town player who has lied?

These are the important parts

When have I lied?

I'm been playing this game as honest as I can.

 

[Maven89]

Oh boy I’m dumb : ( sorry

 

[Maven89]

When have I lied?

I'm been playing this game as honest as I can.

Not directly lying, but you were clearly hinting that you had a relation with the cop, that you two were partners instead of the forceful takeover of their role. You also implied you’d be willing to off yourself, you said that several times, but you’re still here. And fighting to remain

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Willing to off himself, yet still fighting to survive.

That's an odd behavior...

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Yeah if his wincon's already been fulfilled then it's not even like getting lynched goes against his wincon like it does in pretty much every other situation in mafia

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Here's the details everyone. Since I'm going to be lynched anyways.
You guys should know that there was someone after Bard.
I claimed to be that guy d2 (with no counter claim) with the only person gone being Ura. (Who's now back)
Nabe has claimed to be the person to have revived Ura due to being Rosalina and Ura being luma.
People are assuming I'm a 2nd person in Bard's faction. Though when you look at the details here it doesn't add up.
But whatevs.

Why do you guys think I'm lying when there's no way I can be a reviver. Nabe had the ability to revive Ura and confirmed he did as such. I've spent this entire game supporting you guys, cause I actually wanted to do something helpful in the game, besides getting an unexpected win by the end of D1. Even with Ura back, there has been no counter claim to the role that I am.

Yet, because I'm an Indy, I just get treated like I'm a nuisance despite the best of intentions. It's frustrating honestly.

Not directly lying, but you were clearly hinting that you had a relation with the cop, that you two were partners instead of the forceful takeover of their role. You also implied you’d be willing to off yourself, you said that several times, but you’re still here. And fighting to remain

I saw uses for my role, and people only implied that they wanted me to not capture, without directly stating it to me, so why should I just die when nobody told me to during the day phase when i actually have the choice to decide that or not.

I just want this game to end, cause it seems everyone just hates me for what I've done here. It's legitimately frustrating me and I wish that the hosts just made me left the game after fufilling my qin condition.

Willing to off himself, yet still fighting to survive.

That's an odd behavior...

I voted myself didn't I

 

[Fire Emblemier]

REQUESTING MODKILL
Cause this game isn't fun for me anymore
Sorry Hosts.

I'm literally only being defensive out of frustration guys, I'm sorry.

 

[Deleted member]

REQUESTING MODKILL
Cause this game isn't fun for me anymore
Sorry Hosts.

I'm literally only being defensive out of frustration guys, I'm sorry.

I really do not want to hostkill you though.
Can you try harder to endure the game please? I know the game is not as golden as we all thought, but you do not have to give up like this.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

We're voting for you anyway, Fire, so... -shrugs-

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Alright vote's already on me I'm out. Sorry guys.

 

[Pokechu]

can we tie the vote between fire and swamp

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

can we tie the vote between fire and swamp

Ties never led to anything good and I'd rather not take the chance.

Besides, like someone brought up earlier, Swamp is stuck on a roleblock loop. He can't do ****.

 

[Pokechu]

Ties never led to anything good and I'd rather not take the chance.

Besides, like someone brought up earlier, Swamp is stuck on a roleblock loop. He can't do ****.

how are ties always bad? we're gonna lynch fire and swamp regardless. why extend the game 48 hours?

swamp can't do anything so i'm sure that by this point he wants to be lynched, i'm confident he'd go along with it

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

how are ties always bad?

Well, maybe not always, but they have a history of not leading to anything good in our games.

Like the one I set up in Capcom Mafia, which was done solely to incriminate you.

Or the infamous triple lynch of Villains Mafia that led to town losing the entire game.

My role's all about gambling with RNG and I still think ties can be a risk.

we're gonna lynch fire and swamp regardless. why extend the game 48 hours?

swamp can't do anything so i'm sure that by this point he wants to be lynched, i'm confident he'd go along with it

Because the possibility of a third-party snatching the win is possible.

We want to tie any loose ends so that nothing bad happens once the mafia's gone.

 

[Pokechu]

Well, maybe not always, but they have a history of not leading to anything good in our games.

Like the one I set up in Capcom Mafia, which was done solely to incriminate you.

the town didn't agree on that tie, that was because of a voteblocker.

Or the infamous triple lynch of Villains Mafia that led to town losing the entire game.

this isn't a triple lynch

Because the possibility of a third-party snatching the win is possible.

fire wont be able to snatch the win if one of us keeps our vote off in case he swoops in and votes swamp

and that's assuming that he really does need to survive to win, which isn't confirmed yet. i honestly dont think a role like that would make any sense tbh

it wouldn't make sense for his role to be "You are King Boo's rival, and your goal is to get rid of the King's cult of Boos that will render the town's loss at the end of the game. But if you live to the end of the game, town loses."