Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

[#HBC | Gorf]

Sorry not much time on here, I'm VT, I'll look up the flavour in a second.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Jaha, Vanilla Townie

 

[Swiss]

Mmmmm.

Who else needs to claim?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Felipe and you.

Why did July break claim order?

 

[Swiss]

Oh right, me.

I forget.

Gerhalt I think. I'm sure my role does something. Or maybe not.

 

[Swiss]

Felipe and you.

Why did July break claim order?

She's only a woman.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Felipe's viewing, where's the claim.

 

[felipe_9595]

Derp.

VT here. We should Roleclaim.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The name of such?

 

[felipe_9595]

Yes

I am Tyrin the Vanilla Townie

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm Bowie, Town Cop.

My role PM confirms that I can catch independents as well as mafia.

 

[Orboknown]

Derp.

VT here. We should Roleclaim.

mass claim in progress, and suggest the bold? why?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

N1 Kuz - Innocent
N2 Dabunz - Innocent

 

[Orboknown]

so any results yet ryker?
then the live edit ninja

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Alright, so, seriously, I see what Swiss did and I'll take his word on Orbo being town. July I'll also buy. Myself and Swiss are town. Rockin is probably town.

That leaves Bleck, Felipe, RR, and Dabunz.

RR is not mafia.
Dabunz is not indy.

Two of the four in that lynch pool are town unless they're lovers which I doubt are in the set-up seeing as we have neighbors. We can leave Ruy alive while and on me and I'll clear them them one by one. Lynch Bleck today. Cop RR tonight. Doc Ryker tonight. Wish sorely that we had someone who could watch RR tonight to catch Dabunz killing him.

We lynch Felipe tomorrow unless I have a guilty on RR, then we probably lynch him anyway. If my investigation turns up an Inno, then RR is cleared because he's not mafia and therefore not Godfather. Doc still on me unless he's dead, then hurray, one less headache to deal with.

Next night I cop July (I guess) even though cop will be pretty useless as I'm fairly sure we'll have everything. Then we lynch Dabunz.




If I die tonight, RR dies a fiery death of pain the next day phase because he killed me.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Vote Bleck

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I realize that JDitz was the one claiming miller, so there's no point in continuing to mask what form my results come in.

I receive either "Town," "Mafia," or "Independent" in alignment corresponded color.

 

[Swiss]

Alright, so, seriously, I see what Swiss did and I'll take his word on Orbo being town. July I'll also buy. Myself and Swiss are town. Rockin is probably town.

That leaves Bleck, Felipe, RR, and Dabunz.

RR is not mafia.
Dabunz is not indy.

Two of the four in that lynch pool are town unless they're lovers which I doubt are in the set-up seeing as we have neighbors. We can leave Ruy alive while and on me and I'll clear them them one by one. Lynch Bleck today. Cop RR tonight. Doc Ryker tonight. Wish sorely that we had someone who could watch RR tonight to catch Dabunz killing him.

We lynch Felipe tomorrow unless I have a guilty on RR, then we probably lynch him anyway. If my investigation turns up an Inno, then RR is cleared because he's not mafia and therefore not Godfather. Doc still on me unless he's dead, then hurray, one less headache to deal with.

Next night I cop July (I guess) even though cop will be pretty useless as I'm fairly sure we'll have everything. Then we lynch Dabunz.




If I die tonight, RR dies a fiery death of pain the next day phase because he killed me.

This is a plan I like.

If there is a scum in Ryker/Swiss/Rockin we lose. Otherwise we should have this.

Ryker, potential for indie Rockin?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Indie neighbors with JDitz? Slim to none. I can cop him over July if you'd prefer.

 

[Swiss]

I think I would.

Rockin I find harder to read than July, and as anti-town she would feel compelled to be useful to us.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Works for me.

 

[Swiss]

Lynch Bleck.
Cop RR.
RR protects Ryker (RR do this, if he dies you are being lynched)

RR indie? Lynch him. RR town, lynch Felipe.

If game isn't won, make sure Rockin dies by whatever means we have remaining.

This should result in a win. Am concerned we'll pin scum as indie and give away a free win to scum, or vice versa.

If I die, comply with everything Ryker says toMorrow. Orbo, you are to transfer your vote from my word to Ryker's in the event of my death.

 

[Swiss]

We're in accord.

Vote BH

Thoughts on the claims?

 

[Swiss]

^ Wrong acronym

Vote Bleck Mang

 

[Swiss]

Lynch Bleck.
Cop RR.
RR protects Ryker (RR do this, if he dies you are being lynched)

RR indie? Lynch him. RR town, lynch Felipe.

If game isn't won, make sure Rockin dies by whatever means we have remaining.

This should result in a win. Am concerned we'll pin scum as indie and give away a free win to scum, or vice versa.

If I die, comply with everything Ryker says toMorrow. Orbo, you are to transfer your vote from my word to Ryker's in the event of my death.

I should clarify as my wording is ambiguous, if RR is indie, this does not equate to a free pass for Felipe and he should still be cleared/killed. Felipe I could be wrong on. Even Gods can bleed.

> mfw Ryker is scum and fake played Cop like a champ.....

 

[Swiss]

Actually, Ryker, please be scum.

This could be an utterly fantastic play. Incredibly manipulative. Would happily take this defeat to see such a good play.

How beautiful would that play be? Every tell you've dropped would have thought out to make me believe you town, and while never opposing me in thread you give my town read on you weight in credit, as I have the thread power you gave me. To draw me into the PR read and guide me towards cop & separate town read, while meaning you out-prioritise me in NK's when our doc is alive. Your late-game might be a little shaky after doc is dead but with me gone and my express statement to follow you, you'd have everything you needed to stroll to endgame. Would easily outclass my play in Britches and Hose and our combined play in Dissidia, especially since it was against me.

Mmm, you do make me wonder.

Regardless, Ryker is town - or scum that I will see win.

 

[Swiss]

And if RR is indie Combat Medic...

Oh God the possibilities.

 

[Orboknown]

If I die, comply with everything Ryker says toMorrow. Orbo, you are to transfer your vote from my word to Ryker's in the event of my death.

Suppose I can do that.

Requesting Vote Count
if bleck is not in hammer range I'll throw down a vote.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Or you could just throw it. I feel the need to STRESS that RR needs to die if I die tonight. This is put out there in the event that both Swiss and I die. If not, default to Swiss. After that, in the event that I'm not here, lynch Dabunz or Felipe. If Swiss is alive, let him select the order. If not, Dabuz first.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ya cause the dude who is the only claimed protective is scum!

Cop someone else, your wasting your time.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Gonna doc Ryker either way.

Copping Rockin over July is stupid as well, even more so for Vanz who isn't going to go that far out there with a set-up.

 

[Swiss]

Don't meta the mod. Whats so crazy about scum indie neighbours?

 

[Swiss]

Ya cause the dude who is the only claimed protective is scum!

Cop someone else, your wasting your time.

Our point is that you could be indie.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Don't meta the mod.

At least not when you're bad at it.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Vote: July

Reasons I realized last night/this morning, case will come up later, as well as really reading what's been going on toDay. Mobile at school so...

 

[Swiss]

Don't hammer till I've seen this case.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Don't meta the mod. Whats so crazy about scum indie neighbours?

That's a very risky position to put an Indie, even more so in a neighbor relationship where town is going to be questioning the alignment of the two players in it.

Nabe's shared with me what he wanted to do to me in super heroes, he would have offed me for town credit if Zen didn't mason me as well.

Putting an indie at that risk, where mafia could off them very easily is bad modding. Indies have the lowest win ratio on this site or heck probably just how the game is. Unless they gave them like a one shot BP or something, since full out BP is unbalanced for mafia to influence the indie. Even more so when a roleblocker is pretty much not around, since I would have been roleblocked to get the kill off on Ryker last night.

Our point is that you could be indie.

Then I'm a serial killer, with town having no protection against 2 night kills.

Not possible, since town would only have 3/4 PRs and only one that influences at night.

At least not when you're bad at it.

You realize even if mafia has a godfather, I'm not living to end game. I have a provable PR or if not as an indie, they will not let me sit there when I an a threat to them.

Copping me, when I am going to die before end game, is a waste.

 

[Swiss]

You realize even if mafia has a godfather, I'm not living to end game. I have a provable PR or if not as an indie, they will not let me sit there when I an a threat to them.

Copping me, when I am going to die before end game, is a waste.

Wifom.

Oh God the wifom.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It's not Wifom, I'm dying before end game as Indie or town.

 

[Swiss]

What if there were only 2 scum?