Had to redo this post. Here are the posts that I don't like from you Ryu. You're play here is just not what I've seen from you as town. You're reminding me way back to your Fire emblem self.
This is meta from a year ago if not longer.
Your reaching. Get something more recent, or I'm just going to ignore you.
First of all, there was no reason for you to answer Swiss' RVS question in such a polished out way other than to be appeasing. Did you honestly come into this game with the plan of "lynching for a strong end game"? I highly doubt this. No one comes into a game with some pregame plan like this. A normal answer to Swiss' question would have been general, but you gave such a specific, polished answer. You answering in such a way strongly leads me to believe that you carefully constructed this answer, feeling that it would be a safe response to Swiss.
I do not want a lylo of,
2. dabuz
4. Rockin
5. Bardull
6. Dark Horse
8. Orboknown
9. Jdietz43
10. felipe_9595
I do not trust town winning in this without scum being lynched before hand and without PR help. There players are either newer or have large activities problems which is why I do not want a lylo of them, no offense. I never said I wouldn't scum hunt and consider a largely scummier lot more important.
Nothing here suggests this isn't my game plan. Saying no u doesn't cut it.
Second, why would you have this gameplan in the first place? Ryker touched on this earlier. There's no way you should be giving more experienced players the benefit of the doubt. Scum is scum. If anything you should be trying to get more out of skilled players because of their difficulty to read.
There was no reason for you to post this. Tell me, do you think that July as town would blindly follow Ryker??? If not then WHY DID YOU POST THIS?
Do you think the rest of town would have allowed a quicklynch even if July did vote? If anything it would have been worth seeing July's response to Ryker and so on.
I have played in games where Ryker has put his own agenda over what was town needed.
Melee mafia and Utrick'd 2, he lynched scum but there was no reason to quick lynch without consulting town.
Then look at Megaman X and Awkward mafia where he puts his own survival above towns PRs and got them lynched/killed over himself only to die in lylo in both games when scum kept him around.
I answered because I suspect with a vote blocker town has a double voter or their are other roles that mess with voting, I did not want DH being put at L-1 under these situations when it looked like he was being pushed hard as is and early. I know town has players who would sheep and play follow the leader with a stronger player.
Stronger players can catch stronger players, the reverse is not as true. I do not think weaker or less skilled players can catch strong townie like the rest can. I trust Ryker, Kuz, etc to catch Swiss scum for example purposes, I do not trust it for people seeing Dabuz scum and etc.
Strong end games are perfectly possible, I am not ignoring scum hunting while doing this.
And yes, Ryker has done this and walked away from quick lynching/pushing to get town PRs lynched as town to save himself.
That I think their are other things that can mess with voting from the existence of a confirmed vote blocker.
What is the confusing part of that?
@mod: Ryu edited his post here.
I hate you.
This was very weird. Jdietz explained how difficult it would be to find the thread, it's so weird that you would put so much effort into perusing this just for weak meta. You are so trying to gain some town points by looking like you're doing some Ryu investigatin' with this.
Anything that helps me read people, I've only played irl mafia with him so that isn't as applicable, works for me.
I wanted to see if he was as wishy washy with maybe reads like pre claim he was if it was a scum tell or not. He was very hesitant to make stances and even when he did, they were never strong ones. I wanted to see if they changed from game to game because it would affect my read on him.
I would be pushing other players for certain things as well if I didn't already know meta wise it isn't a scum tell.
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