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#HBC | Red Ryu

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Jay, your BB forums make me need to register an account to find it since ti cuts me off on 4 pages of topics. I don't wanna do that right now. :/
 

th3kuzinator

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I don't know why you're bothering with his meta. There should be plenty in thread as of now to judge his alignment.
 

No Lynch

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I disagree.

if they are unconfirmed on alignment, why fish and reveal like that?

It's just like Super Heroes where I was in the same situation with two people and didn't claim my role until I felt like I could trust both my partners.
I asked you the same thing in Super Heroes. I was town there.
 

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My head hurts.

On one hand, you play the noob card a ton in this.

But then again, fake claiming neighbor is a really bad idea for scum, and near impossible to pull of.

Eh, I think you should reveal your partner.
What am I reading?

Why does claiming neighbour, as scum, require a fake claim?

Why did Dietz claim?

What is happening in this game.

Why are Kuz and NL not nerd raging.

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I am his neighbour.

Good luck trying to lynch me.

Lynch Dietz. I did not ask what he said.

Unvote vote Dietz
 

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I told him not to claim in thread.

I did probe him as to his alignment, and may have offered him a fakeclaim to see if he'd bite. But he clammed up and stopped responding. Like he was waiting for help.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I don't know why you're bothering with his meta. There should be plenty in thread as of now to judge his alignment.
It's the earlier posts where he was indecisive.

I don't like them, but I can't lie when I say I've been there before in my first few games as town. I wanna see if it is a huge difference or not in how he makes stances.

Irl mafia with him, I can't recall much talking wise because my memory of specifics can be real garbage. But I do know outside of trolling town, he is good with analyzing situations. So I do know he can make decisions.

I want to make sure it's not just something he does every game over just ones he is scum.
 

No Lynch

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Nabe still thinks that was stupid of you to fish as a neighbor. And he was scum.
What does it matter what Nabe thinks? The point is that a town neighbor is curious if they can trust their neighbor. Asking for their role is not uncommon. The way Jdietz phrased Swiss asking doesn't seem like Swiss was asking in a manipulative way. Do you agree or disagree with this and why?
 

Jdietz43

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Back.

So now I can spill my guts on how I feel about people: and since this is a hot topic we're going to start with Swiss

He's not my neighbor: and the more he talks the more I think he's scum

I'll scoot that out the door right now since I have no idea why he's lying about this
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Back.

So now I can spill my guts on how I feel about people: and since this is a hot topic we're going to start with Swiss

He's not my neighbor: and the more he talks the more I think he's scum

I'll scoot that out the door right now since I have no idea why he's lying about this
...What the hell?
 

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Ah well that sucks.

Dietz you're no fun.

And were you town you'd have kept quiet. You just used your first opportunity to grab at townie, innocent, honest points.

Lynch Dietz. He's scum.
 

Jdietz43

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Yeah: exactly. I don't know what Swiss is aiming for here, but he's not my neighbor.

I really think he's dumb or scum simply because of just how much he's been claiming s*** since the game started. I don't know if he's always this arrogant and likes to try to claim what people's roles are to probe, but he's been rattling me wrong ever since he started pinning roles from people when they only post twice.

Especially that one time when he claimed Ryker was doc after like one post that didn't seem to have anything to do with anything and was just probing Rockin
 

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I could see claiming alignment, but actual roles seems like a huuuge stretch even for someone who's really good
 

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NL, you believed it was me without question?

Yeah: exactly. I don't know what Swiss is aiming for here, but he's not my neighbor.

I really think he's dumb or scum simply because of just how much he's been claiming s*** since the game started. I don't know if he's always this arrogant and likes to try to claim what people's roles are to probe, but he's been rattling me wrong ever since he started pinning roles from people when they only post twice.

Especially that one time when he claimed Ryker was doc after like one post that didn't seem to have anything to do with anything and was just probing Rockin
Oh god somebody lynch this guy.

Look at how scummy this is.

I also find it highly amusing to try and apply dumb or scum to me. I am many things, but you'll be hard pressed to accuse me of being dumb.

I could see claiming alignment, but actual roles seems like a huuuge stretch even for someone who's really good
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

"I claim town!"

"So do I"

WELL THAT WAS A USEFUL CLAIM.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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What does it matter what Nabe thinks? The point is that a town neighbor is curious if they can trust their neighbor. Asking for their role is not uncommon. The way Jdietz phrased Swiss asking doesn't seem like Swiss was asking in a manipulative way. Do you agree or disagree with this and why?
Ignoring the, "It's Swiss" part.

I think it's dumb to out your role right off the bat, you can out to scum your role and then get killed during the night after you just outed to them what you were.

Get a read first before you claim.

I think it was, he admits he is new and then fishes right off the bat for his role before reads of each other are made. I would never claim to my neighbor until I felt like I could trust them.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I could see claiming alignment, but actual roles seems like a huuuge stretch even for someone who's really good
Uhhh, Jay.

Both people are going to claim alignment as town no matter what, scum and indys will never say they are scum or indy.

They would claim roles, most likely fake, before that.
 

No Lynch

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Ignoring the, "It's Swiss" part.

I think it's dumb to out your role right off the bat, you can out to scum your role and then get killed during the night after you just outed to them what you were.

Get a read first before you claim.

I think it was, he admits he is new and then fishes right off the bat for his role before reads of each other are made. I would never claim to my neighbor until I felt like I could trust them.
Dude I'm not asking if it's a bad idea to claim your role. I'm asking is it necessarily a scum tell for someone to ASK FOR YOUR ROLE. Like I said, I asked in Superheros, and other neighbors do it all the time. Jdietz didn't ask for his partners role, his partner asked for his. You're mixing this up here yo.
 

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it seems really presumptuousness on Day 1, and the way he's been doing most of his posts makes me feel like he's mostly just stirring stuff
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Dude I'm not asking if it's a bad idea to claim your role. I'm asking is it necessarily a scum tell for someone to ASK FOR YOUR ROLE. Like I said, I asked in Superheros, and other neighbors do it all the time. Jdietz didn't ask for his partners role, his partner asked for his. You're mixing this up here yo.
Prematurely asking, yes I do think it is a scum tell to ask early.
 

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With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Red Ryu has been Silenced, and any votes they cast will not be counted for the remainder of the Day!

Voting:
Jdietz43 (3): th3kuzinator, Bleck Mang, Swiss,
Dark Horse (2): No Lynch, Ryker
No Lynch Target (1): felipe_9595
Bleck Mang (1): July
felipe_9595 (1): Rockin
Ryker (1): Dark Horse


Not Voting (4):
dabuz
Orboknown
Jdietz43
Red Ryu
 
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