Shine Gets Invicibility -Vid to prove-

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Thanks to "saviorslegacy" for getting this replay of mine uploaded to youtube. I owe you man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u60TwxKQL4k

^So by not taking knockback from Bair it would appear he has super armor during the attack, but if you notice the damage gauge he does not take any damage. However, you can clearly see the Bair hit something because it cause the a little flash when it makes contact with Falco's body. So this is something between invicibility or super armor.

I do want to point out something that apprently is hard to see in the vid. I ended up throwing a grenade upwards just before landing on the stage and jumping to Bair. So the shine ended up reflecting the grenade just before I hit Falco with Bair. So I am not sure if that has anything to do with what happened. Just thought to point it out.

 

[Teran]

Hopefully, we can learn to exploit this in some way, but it still seems impractical.

Man I hate the mechanics of this game. Great find though.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I know what you mean by impractical. I struggled for an hour in training mode to see if I could duplicate this, but I didnt' get any luck.

 

[GunmasterLombardi]

Stupid Internet channel won't let me watch videos.


Edit: I tested this by throwing deku nuts in the air and reflecting on them right before they hit the ground. You have to have just reflected something in order to obtain the super armor.

Because I first tested w/ bomb-ombs and I kept getting hit since you can't reflect bomb-ombs. (At least not with Falco)

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Looks like squirtles sideB..

Frame of impact

So, it's on the frame where the shine is FULLY out, and it hit the head.

 

[lucha5]

lol why do cpu,s get to pull crap like this.

 

[Julio_TFP]

The video start at 46% and ending at 46%. It´s Super Armor and No Damage xD

 

[thexsunrosered]

good **** crystal good ****

 

[TheMike]

I would say that the Shine just reflected Snake's Bair if he turned to the opposite direction because it even took damage off Falco. Probably another kind of Super Armor? Something strange, but nice =D

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

The video start at 46% and ending at 46%. It´s Super Armor and No Damage xD

I would say that the Shine just reflected Snake's Bair if he turned to the opposite direction because it even took damage off Falco. Probably another kind of Super Armor? Something strange, but nice =D

Looks like squirtles sideB..

cough cough

 

[shanus]

Falco's PSA data shows no special defensive collisions aside from reflect.

 

[dainbramage]

Phantom hit?


Though that would necessitate either the hitbox of snake's bair being actually inside his feet, or else falco's hurtbox starting pretty much behind him during shine.

 

[Fluke]

Hehe this thread has made me smile.
Nice find =D

Too bad I don't ever play SSBB anymore. I visit here every month or so.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Hehe this thread has made me smile.
Nice find =D

Too bad I don't ever play SSBB anymore. I visit here every month or so.

According to the techy frame guys this was a one time random glitch.

 

[Dilly04]

Is it possible that shine can actually work like olimar's down b? The timing of both seem really similar to one another..

 

[Will19]

Is it possible that shine can actually work like olimar's down b? The timing of both seem really similar to one another..

That would've been really awesome. :D
I'll go ahead and try this out.

 

[Brickbox]

I dont know if this follows what your talking about but way back in the day I canceled links final smash with shine I dont know if people know about this I couldnt find anything like it anywere. Plz tell me if this doesnt follow the same lines of this discussion.

 

[Teran]

Iunno how relevant Final Smashes are though since competitive matches don't use them, and their mechanics in terms of how they operate well... hmm.

Dunno if it applies.

 

[AvoiD]

I doubt this makes any sense at all, but I just woke up johns.

What if, when you shine, you make it so that when your doing a jump shine (falling?) that you land grabbing the edge after the animation is over, which you get Super Armor from holding, it reads it as already grabbing the ledge.

It might just be on that one stage, but I can try it whenever I get my Wii back, I doubt it makes sense at all to other though. lmao.

 

[DanGR]

A small time earlier this year I was presented with the idea that Snake['s head] could possibly be a projectile. If that were the case then this video wouldn't prove anything about whether Falco's shine has invincibility or not.

Just saying.

edit: And to back up that case, look closely at the video. As the reflector hits snake it flashes, which is what happens when it collides with a projectile. Come to think of it, that may happen when it hits anything. *shrugs*

 

[PK-ow!]

I have evidence to suggest invincibility.


I can somewhat consistently reflect projectiles that are behind Falco. They must be traveling fast, though.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Um.. glitch?