sheik vs sheik advice

[KirbyKaze]

i'm really bad at this MU someone help me in it

i tried asking m2k for help but he just told me he hates me

anyone?

 

[MarsFool!]

KK are you trolling?

 

[KirbyKaze]

I dunno what to do vs her it's really hard

Like, I think that stuff works but then it never does

Y'know?

 

[MarsFool!]

LOOOOOL.
Its because sheik knows what you want and has such simple tools to punish with.

Please give some detail? I saw you vs (m2k?) a while ago but all the things he caught you on were generic sheik punishes -_-

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

I hate Sheik dittos too. I usually just go Falco against other Sheiks, so I can't help.

EDIT: Nvm REALLY trolling.

 

[KirbyKaze]

http://fr-ca.twitch.tv/styc/b/293115627

0:50:30 roughly. WFs set with M2K from a recent Canada tournament (last weekend). I kind of get styled on. Any help is appreciated.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

Styled on? You *****, man. If anything it was you that was styling on him.

Not many people can go toe to toe with M2K in Sheik dittos like that. I'd be proud.

If you seriously think you need help, then with what?

 

[Nihonjin]

Green Sheik? I'll help..

Tomorrow though, it's late..

 

[KirbyKaze]

Yay, eventual Amsah advice <3

 

[weon - X]

omg david.... u troll

 

[Wake]

M2K hates you? How could that be possible?!

 

[KirbyKaze]

he said it jokingly (i think)

 

[Roneblaster]

No1 hates kirbykaze.

He better have been kidding or he and i are gonna have a little talk.

You defiently did more styling than he did, but sadly styling only wins u games if ur playing falcone.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Styling works for every character. You just also have to remember to get the job done.

Falcon isn't unique in that. The community just has a mancrush on him for some reason.

 

[Roneblaster]

I DISAGREE KIND SIR, BUT I RESPECT UR OPINION.

 

[KirbyKaze]

The trouble I had in a lot of these matches had to do with me failing really easy run off Fairs because I wanted to combo off dash SH aerial but I kept messing it up. Off to the lab, I guess. I also could have poofed to the edge a bunch of times but I thought to go to the stage automatically regardless of what he was actually doing. Habits, I guess. Oh well.

Dreamland 1 and 2 I feel I just messed up a lot and got wrecked for it. Nervousness or something. I dunno. M2K is intimidating.

On FoD I should have gotten rocked but he killed himself at like 12 on his first stock so he let me back in the game. Then I got some funny combos. Yay for combos. So that tied it up. But then stage discomfort and better consistency on his part cost me the match and subsequently the set. I suck, yay.

 

[Roneblaster]

Im not a sheik player, but u died a whole bunch from up bing straight up and getting edgehogged. While watching live i seem to remember that more than 1 of those were unforced deaths.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I'm usually better about Up+B angles / not getting into that position. I expected him to just down smash me the first time but then he hogged me and I was like "Oh yeah you can do that." The next time was... I dunno I'm an idiot. I think it only happened twice, though. I hope it only happened twice...

Atma suggests I learn how to do ground techs more consistently. I think that would probably be wise.

 

[Roneblaster]

Im fairly sure it happened atleast 3 times over the whole of the set.

By ground techs do u/binyan mean like teching when u get downsmashed near the edge?

 

[KirbyKaze]

I think he means more for Fairs but it's applicable to down smashes.

 

[Roneblaster]

Cant you CC sheiks fair up to a moderate %? Obviously this doesnt help above that %, but its more for my curiosity at this point.

I know i tech alot of stuff like that by prematurly cc'ing and trying shield before i get hit.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Yes, but we're trying to survive into the low hundreds here. And DI is a meh answer to her Fair because of its gorgeous trajectory.

I CC tech a lot of stuff when I try to WD OOS but get hit.

 

[Roneblaster]

Oh ok, low hundreds.

Idk, if u cc wont u slide off and fall below with no lag but alot of momentum? I guess not and thats what u mean by "glorious trajectory."

 

[KirbyKaze]

If you slide off with no lag but with tons of momentum you're probably dead as Sheik as a result of her poor aerial mobility and light weight. Depends on positioning and percentage to some degree.

A common solution to this is to just DI the move really well to make the send as high as possible. And then you recover from there. But Sheik's Fair kind of beats this approach by virtue of its naturally low trajectory.

So, ground tech. Ground tech isn't without its faults, because you can be hit out of it, but sometimes it is the best thing to go for.

 

[Deleted member]

frankly it looks like m2k is just better at the edge. big surprise.

IMO copy his edge fagging gimmicks/traps as best as you can.

 

[choknater]

i wanna see two great sheiks not soft ban cging. LOL

 

[Wake]

That set was awesome... One of the commentators said that he had never heard of you, KK... that made me laugh.

 

[KirbyKaze]

i wanna see two great sheiks not soft ban cging. LOL

Drephen vs Tope P4.

 

[Roneblaster]

What? No link?

 

[KirbyKaze]

I'm incredibly lazy right now.

 

[Roneblaster]

Its fine. 2:30am johns are legit. Infact, im going to bed.

<3

 

[Ministry]

i think you need to stop recovering straight up so much David. its guaranteed death, as opposed to getting knocked off again. don't put yourself in that situation.


everything else you know, stop making troll threads.

 

[darkatma]

SUCK MORE ****S
then you might be able to outgay m2k
<3

I can't even give advice because I'm too busy taking furious notes

 

[gm jack]

A while ago, I think you said that you struggled in getting into good ranges, but could recognise them when you were in them. Try working on being more active in your control of space, so that you can try and create more openings.

 

[Bing]

Being honest, You did style on him more, you've even told me yourself that your "thing" was death combos, and to be honest I think the winner of that set came right down to who made the most mistakes, literally, the finally blow was like a messed up u-air. I think you're really good in this matchup, so his M2K, so it just came down to who made the mistakes and who could capatalize on them more.

You're right on the doorstep of ****** his *** with a handful of needles, just keep pounding away, you'll get it, your better then some people give you credit for

 

[ChivalRuse]

You were doing fine vs Tope at P5. I don't think you have any other Sheiks to worry about, except M2K. I guess Lucien, too, and maybe Cosmo is good at Sheik dittos. IDK.

 

[Strong Badam]

SUCK MORE ****S
then you might be able to outgay m2k
<3

yes
i'm willing to help with this david

 

[AlcyoNite]

where is amsah?

 

[Kaffei]

r u srs KK
u played so well

 

[silentSWAG]

you taught me this match up