Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

[CHiCKeN SaLaD]

after watching some of tec0's videos, all i have to say is

$100 money match?

 

[Teczer0]

????

So you wanna mm me after watching >_>...

uhhh ok.... mad random

 

[soap]

i once had a friend that 100$ mm a competitive player. This was when he thought the was the best player in the world, and didnt know that a competitve scene existed

 

[Teczer0]

Well I'm pretty sure I can safely say I was in the competitive scene when Brawl wasn't here.

I never mm though its just something weird >_> I always wanted to do some but I always get scared to dunno why.

In any case salad you live in NYC thats not terrible far away from where I live so maybe we can do our mm although I am poor I definitely can't do it for a 100 dollars T_T.

 

[CHiCKeN SaLaD]

Well I'm pretty sure I can safely say I was in the competitive scene when Brawl wasn't here.

I never mm though its just something weird >_> I always wanted to do some but I always get scared to dunno why.

In any case salad you live in NYC thats not terrible far away from where I live so maybe we can do our mm although I am poor I definitely can't do it for a 100 dollars T_T.

sure

im actually very competative and one of the best in NY (prolly the best since pc chris doesnt play). and you know me, i've been to your house. and i was kinda tutoring your brother in math

(ssssssshh. its a secret, but i'm just havin a little fun)

 

[Teczer0]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[CHiCKeN SaLaD]

so you see, i'm too good

oh, and sheik is really good character.

she makes it so that no matter what percent falco is, he's ALWAYS within kill range.

 

[Cia]

so you see, i'm too good

oh, and sheik is really good character.

she makes it so that no matter what percent falco is, he's ALWAYS within kill range.

<3 kill range

 

[Teczer0]

LMFAO

You're too good VaNz LOLOL

Get at me using Vanz tag

And at the melee boards .

Melee >>>>>>> Brawl

 

[Drephen]

M2K's shiek is not good

 

[mikeHAZE]

M2K's shiek is not good

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_tpj70U4_IY


http://youtube.com/watch?v=TS4jyb9r4wE


hmmm....


*hi drephen*

 

[araknophobik]

m2k's sheik is good
...but its no kdj

 

[soap]

i still like forwards, but dj wins

 

[Drephen]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_tpj70U4_IY


http://youtube.com/watch?v=TS4jyb9r4wE


hmmm....


*hi drephen*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oNuPIwJ4jQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oagLNI7X0xY&feature=related


.............................

oh hey mike haze =)

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I'm shocked that no one posted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtcpKeRkPdw

 

[soap]

lol at the tec0 praise ---> ensuing hate combo

 

[cablepuff]

oc2 crew battle
how to gimp falco
effective edge guarding

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I just thought the video was funny, honestly. I don't really know any smashers well enough to hate them.

 

[Drephen]

oc2 crew battle
how to gimp falco
effective edge guarding

taking out japanese players, an unknown falco, annnd cort?

yeah thats not hard to do <.< >.>

losing all 5 stock to hugs' 1 stock?
now thats hard to do

 

[mikeHAZE]

haha hugo ***** samus.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=0rwuboxwUi8


legendary match

 

[Brookman]

That sheik player SUCKS

 

[soap]

hugs is really good against sheik, lukily i got to play him at pound, hes like psychic with those shield pressure dtilts. jab, jab, delay, jab, long delay....dtilt, right when i try to jump

 

[KirbyKaze]

question.

if you sh needle (say on yoshi's) and land on the platform, you get a needle cancel and they get hit by a needle.

is it possible to isai drop a platform canceled nair from that needle cancel to stay on the platform for a weirder follow-throw?

 

[soap]

ya, its possible, but its generally safer to fall through with an uair/fair/nair cuz the needle doesnt technically "combo" (i.e. not enough stun) and they can get their shield up sometimes, but it works by surprise cuz its in such quik succesion

 

[exarch]

At what percents can you CG which characters (including DI dependency)? I can't find a list for it.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

From mirage_drag0n's guide...

Down Throw – Ground Slam
Damage – 8%
Sheik’s second best move which should be used as much as possible. The down throw is a great setup for any of her attacks. It can also be use to chain throw half of the characters in the game.

Here is a list of who can/can’t be chain thrown:

Dr. Mario – Can’t
Mario – Can’t
Luigi – Can’t
Bowser – Can
Peach – Can’t
Yoshi – Can
Donkey Kong – Can’t
Captain Falcon – Can’t
Ganondorf – Can
Falco – Can’t
Fox – Can’t
Ness – Can
Ice Climbers – Can’t
Kirby – Can’t
Samus – Can’t
Zelda – Can’t
Sheik – Can
Link – Can
Young Link – Can
Pichu – Can
Pikachu – Can
Jigglypuff – Can’t
Mewtwo – Can’t
Mr. Game & Watch – Can
Marth – Can’t
Roy – Can

There're some numbers in Plairnkk's guide... but they're a little unclear, I'll see what else I can find.

 

[soap]

so besides for the ditto, no one good

 

[Tope]

you can regrab marth once for free, they can't escape.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

so besides for the ditto, no one good

You can tech chase regrab the fastfallers which is really nice...

you can regrab marth once for free, they can't escape.

That's hardly a chainthrow though... Marth can fthrow to regrab a lot of characters too =P

 

[exarch]

Bowser: 0-102% At least this is what my testing shows. I'll do more testing on other characters tomorrow. Anyone want to try to confirm this? (Also if there's a list already made someone find it so I don't waste any more time.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I saw 89 or 93 for Bowser somewhere... but that person was testing on CPUs or something.

 

[Teczer0]

There are still people who play melee AND play sheik?

I thought I was the only one .

 

[elvenarrow3000]

How can people not play Sheik? She's just too... I dunno... gay not to play.

 

[Teczer0]

How can people not play Sheik? She's just too... I dunno... gay not to play.

I dunno I stopped playing her so much >_>.

When no one really plays you as often as you would like its sorta weird to play sheik T_T.

I play CF now cuz of the amazing fun factor in it

 

[wWw Dazwa]

the few times i've gone back to play melee with friends, i can't get back into sheik, who was my main =(

for some reason my character order is like

falco>fox>sheik>marth

when it was originally

sheik>marth>falco>fox

brawl does weird stuff to ya, man.

 

[Teczer0]

the few times i've gone back to play melee with friends, i can't get back into sheik, who was my main =(

for some reason my character order is like

falco>fox>sheik>marth

when it was originally

sheik>marth>falco>fox

brawl does weird stuff to ya, man.

omg it is weird.

I dunno why either to me her jump feels so high all of the sudden.

I play Peach>CF>Fox>Sheik now

Weird......

 

[Cia]

LOL

I used to be Peach > Young Link > Donkey Kong > Sheik

now I'm Jigglypuff > Sheik > Fox > Young Link

..

Brawl may have actually made me play better chars

 

[KirbyKaze]

sheik kirby fox marth

the kirby is somewhat obscure in that list.

also, thanks for information soap.

also, is it practical to edgecancel needles into fairs/more needles/bair on pokemon stadium (and wherever else it works)? i've been screwing around lately and edgecancelled needles seem pretty cool... but iunno how useful they look.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Donkey Kong, Ganondorf, Falcon, Falco, Fox, Marth/Sheik.

I main Marth and Sheik but they're not that interesting to play as.

 

[KirbyKaze]

yo sheik is awesome to play as if you don't play gay

she has so many little tricksies it's epic