• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Shaq Mafia! : ~Game Over~ | Who won? dGames Reject Copy

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
its almost time to prod xsyven

vyse - do you basically just think that a jersey = townie and a non jersey item = power role and/or mafia?


kevin, do you really think that i am mafia? also, does my first page comment that i got a safeclaim even though i was town and the safeclaim was just my real claim mean anything to you? do you think i would have that information if i were mafia?

i know that you fight tooth and nail as scum even though you might be working completely uphill with a bad idea - monster mafia. so holding a bad opinion for a long time is not befitting for you.
 

Teran

Through Fire, Justice is Served
Super Moderator
Premium
BRoomer
Joined
Oct 23, 2008
Messages
37,167
Location
Beastector HQ
3DS FC
3540-0079-4988
Do you think giving my safeclaim would help you guys in any way?
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
i really dont understand these ****ing mods....


no teran i think you should tell us your safeclaim but not until we have heard Vyse's safe claim and Xsyven's claim and safe claim. ok?
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
ATTENTION CHIBOSEMPAI: SAFE CLAIMS ARE WHAT YOU GIVE TO THE NON-TOWN FACTIONS SO THEY ARENT UP ****S CREEK WITHOUT A PADDLE IN A MASSCLAIM lol you dont give them to every player in the game what is this a center for ants
 

Teran

Through Fire, Justice is Served
Super Moderator
Premium
BRoomer
Joined
Oct 23, 2008
Messages
37,167
Location
Beastector HQ
3DS FC
3540-0079-4988
Fair enough, I think that's acceptable.

Xsyven needs his ass in here now, and I'm pretty sure he namesearches so he should hurry up and post.
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
yeah i do feel pretty ****ty about being gone for like an entire phase and then coming back active and whining about someone else's inactivity... but as we near the end game and begin to coordinate as a group, activity is even more important.
 

Steel

Where's my Jameson?
BRoomer
Joined
Mar 30, 2008
Messages
7,587
Location
Los Angeles, CA
what do you not like about that steel? the massclaim was so that we could hear from the doctor + the person (or people) he saved and then we could better organize our lynches. now it looks like were not going to hear **** on that account and weve gotten all vanilla townie claims except for a flavor cop.

1. Flavor Cop
2. Firefighter
3. Townie
4. Townie
5. Townie
6. Townie
7. Arsonist
8. Mafia
9. Mafia

Can someone please explain to me how a 5-team flavor system even works in that scenario that it looks like we have? FOUR Vanilla Townies. Not five.

Steel also mention that, but either Vyse's claim is wrong or just his theory is wrong. Right now im totally willing to think the latter because we dont know jack about how his role works with 2 investigations. hence why i mention NL.
ignore it tom, i misread it.

plus the more kevin doesnt like you with flimsy to no reasoning the more im not liking him.

if xsyven claims vanilla then i am down for a no lynch.

--

if it's a "normal" game does not mean there must be a doctor?

what is this a center for ants
HAHAHAH
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
xsyvens been working a lot lately so that would explain inactivity. im not about to cry lurker. but the prod will be nice.

normal just usually means normal mechanics - i guess definitively everything in this game still falls under normal. its just very much not what i expected, a curveball, so i was peeved.

i will be happy if this is a no-kill mafia left and we have a flavorcop or a claimed flavorcop to give us information or have to come up with information while we NL.
 

Xsyven

And how!
BRoomer
Joined
Oct 14, 2002
Messages
14,070
Location
Las Vegas
Sorry guys, you can check my posting on all of SWF-- its not just this game I'm forgetting about.

Vanilla town, here. I'm about to go eat with my room mates, but I'll at least give you my two cents first. Vyse is throwing up red flags for me. I haven't caught up in depth, but I don't buy what he's selling. I know he 'cleared' me, but there's something about him that I really don't like. Being able to no-lynch/investigate in a game with no mafia nightkill is hella broken, and should have definitely been caught by the mods who created this game. So I'm not sure if this is the result of bad modding, or just a bad claim.

If he's really a cop, does he only find certain flavors that don't hint anything about the players' alignment? If that's the case, that's ******* modding, imo.

I'm not all the way caught up here, but that's the main thing that stuck out to me. How can we test Vyse more? Should we vote no-lynch, and see what he can come up with? If there's no nightkills, we can just keep no-lynching/investigating until we get an investigation on everyone the game.

So here's what I wanna know from the rest of the town-- do we no-lynch, or do we lynch Vyse?
 

KevinM

TB12 TB12 TB12
BRoomer
Joined
Jan 30, 2007
Messages
13,625
Location
Sickboi in the 401
Your claim makes no sense in line with the other two.

Your LoD whatever.. whilst ours both have something to do with basketball.

Since I know I'm town I'd rather lynch you guys, in that order.

Pretty ****in simple brah
 

Steel

Where's my Jameson?
BRoomer
Joined
Mar 30, 2008
Messages
7,587
Location
Los Angeles, CA
@ kevin i did notice toms flavor was "product of lod" while ours were basketball <adjective> thats why i asked xsyven for his full claim which he didnt **** give
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
@xsy: if you are going to make the call that the dilemma is either lynch the claimed flavor cop expecting no night kills or no lynch expecting no night kills to let the claimed flavor cop do his thing.... then i think that answer is extremely obvious.

im curious to see what you bring to the table once you have read up everything


kevin you didnt comment on the NL to investigate combo... which is curious because it looks like the most profitable solution right now to almost everyone else. why no comment and what do you think about it.
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
to clarify everything:

my name is Shaq The Vanilla Townie
my role is a Vanilla Townie
in the flavor paragraph it said im a product of the LoD (obv i cant word for word all of that **** for fear of modkill)
my safeclaim is Shaquille O' Neal, The Basketball Superstar



kevin you also didnt comment about my first post statement about having a safeclaim even though i am town aligned even when i asked you to. thats two things so far.
 

CT Chia

Smash Obsessed
Joined
Sep 4, 2007
Messages
24,416
Location
Philadelphia
I hope everyone realizes that the safe claims were just another Shaq joke in this Shaq game. Everyone has the same "safe claim" of being a basketball superstar (I believe those were the words I used).

Xsyven was lined up for a prod tonight but he posted and therefor avoided it. Even though prior to this he hadn't posted for over two days, I reset the counter for his prod when day 3 started.
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
yay chibo thanks for letting us know that the mafia didnt get real safeclaims like firefighter!!!


the moar you know :D




hint mod go away you arent playing this game
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
hmm yo if chibo says that he gave the basketball superstar safeclaim to EVERYONE then i dunno if we can say "hah got you scum" to kevin for that
 

Steel

Where's my Jameson?
BRoomer
Joined
Mar 30, 2008
Messages
7,587
Location
Los Angeles, CA
i dont want to lynch kevin based off of that he may have just been paraphrasing plus chibo said he gave us all superstar
 

Teran

Through Fire, Justice is Served
Super Moderator
Premium
BRoomer
Joined
Oct 23, 2008
Messages
37,167
Location
Beastector HQ
3DS FC
3540-0079-4988
hmm yo if chibo says that he gave the basketball superstar safeclaim to EVERYONE then i dunno if we can say "hah got you scum" to kevin for that
I was more confused than pointing the finger.
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
i understand

waiting for kevmo to respond to the two points i made

waiting for vyse and xsy to weigh in a bit more

no lynch to investigations seems like a very charming route
 

KevinM

TB12 TB12 TB12
BRoomer
Joined
Jan 30, 2007
Messages
13,625
Location
Sickboi in the 401
Down for NL to Investigate

I paraphrased mine in fear of another EE get lynched ****.

Yes I have this nagging feeling that I think you're scum.
 

Steel

Where's my Jameson?
BRoomer
Joined
Mar 30, 2008
Messages
7,587
Location
Los Angeles, CA
down for a no lynch wagon whenever

also down for more discussing if anyone has anything to bring up
 

Teran

Through Fire, Justice is Served
Super Moderator
Premium
BRoomer
Joined
Oct 23, 2008
Messages
37,167
Location
Beastector HQ
3DS FC
3540-0079-4988
no lynch to investigations seems like a very charming route
I swear if the mechanics really do allow for this, this must be the most broken ass game I've ever played.
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
well we did lynch the arsonist before he could prime more than one player

think of it as our reward for lynching a scum who had no other connections to any other scum and theoretically should never have been caught lol

unvote vote no lynch

vyse should investigate anyone but himself or xsyven
 

Vyse

Faith, Hope, Love, Luck
BRoomer
Joined
Jul 6, 2005
Messages
9,561
Location
Brisbane, Australia
it would make sense for this game to have a cop especially since there is no doc (unless xsyven comes out and claims doc). so im not going to say vyse is lying just cus he got his math wrong, im guessing he just forgot to count himself when coming up with the 5 vanilla town = 5 teams theory. but because of that we probably cant clear xsyven based on flavor.
Yeah, actually I thought about that earlier today and remembered that. Maybe Teran's got the 5th uniform? idk. It'll be clearer once we get another result.

vyse - do you basically just think that a jersey = townie and a non jersey item = power role and/or mafia?
That was my theory, but I'm not sure now.

Here are a few reads:

Tom

I feel like I can instantly clear him from a post he made from the very beginning of the game:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9295225&postcount=39

confirmed....

even though i am town aligned, i got a safe claim, but it was my real flavor name.
I don’t think any mafia aligned player would say that, and it’s funny because I don’t think anybody else really questioned it then. After reading ahead, I see you were the one to bring that up that fact yourself.

Moving past that and RVS, he dropped off for more than a little while, but since then he’s been active enough, so I’m not going to bring that up again.

Around about here Tom starts defending Kevin against Steel’s questioning, which CK picks up on and calls it distancing between Tom/Steel. It seems more like TomTown refuting an argument he doesn’t agree with.

Another good post from Tom I feel is this one where he refutes the idea of his play being scummy since if he was being inactive + was scum he would have ridden the CK lynch wagon.

His play today gives me good vibes. He was the one to first strategise the idea of no-lynching to let me investigate, and I don’t think Scum would actively direct Town in that direction.

Kevin

I’ve already commented on what little I can glean from your early play when I mentioned Tom defending you. It’s no secret that you play the way you do and because of that you are unreadable at times. [/coolstorybro]

Point is, I feel he’s been trying to start wagons all game to really force this conception of him. But a few times he has backed off, when he decides his mind has changed/it seems like nobody is going to hop on. I didn’t like how he tried to wagon Teran again straight off on Day 2, and I don’t like much of his play toDay as well (particularly, how hard he was trying to push a lynch until finally giving in to Tom’s logic).

Xsyven

All or more of his posts piggy back on the ideas of others, probably because of his inactivity. Xsyven’s attack on Teran’s play I felt was unfounded after all of Teran’s defences, and then moved to Air, a vote he coasted with til the end of the day.

Due to a lack of posts, it’s hard to construct a decent read on him. His day 2 play isn’t very interesting or revealing, and toDay he seems to think there’s something fishy about my claim (which I suppose I don’t blame). It’s this uninteresting, unrevealing play that led me to investigate him.

Steel

Day 1 there was the really quick unvote you made on air. The one post from that debacle that concerns me the most is this one where he seems to be searching for a reason to unvote. When nobody commented, you unvoted, and cleared your name from the wagon. Still, it’s a WIFOM guessing game as to your intentions, but scum is definitely plausible.

HOWEVER, Day 2 I liked how you defended yourself from the repercussions of doing this. A bit like Tom did in post #340.

Your play is active and generally helpful but some things don’t sit well with me, particularly in the early game (airgemini debacle + You Vs. CK).

Vote: No Lynch
 

Steel

Where's my Jameson?
BRoomer
Joined
Mar 30, 2008
Messages
7,587
Location
Los Angeles, CA
when i asked if anyone thought air was dumb town i was still going back and forth with myself and wanted to know if anyone shared my opinion.

vote no lynch

-1 no lynch you better claim ok
 

CT Chia

Smash Obsessed
Joined
Sep 4, 2007
Messages
24,416
Location
Philadelphia
The Shaqs together devised a plan - they wouldn't choose to lynch anyone today! How will things unfold for our Shaq town?

[collapse=Click Here]Why not enjoy a Shaq video anyway?

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CWqPnEGzfK8&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&autoplay=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/CWqPnEGzfK8&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&autoplay=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/collapse]



The night deadline has been set for February 4th at 9:00am EST.

Since the game has less people and is starting to progress faster, starting with Day 4 I will decrease the day deadlines to 7 days and the night deadlines to 2 days.

Please send in your night actions now. Night will also end if I receive all actions sooner.

No more dribbling (talking) until day time.
 

CT Chia

Smash Obsessed
Joined
Sep 4, 2007
Messages
24,416
Location
Philadelphia
Day 4 Begins

And so the sun rises on the dawn of the fourth day. Had the Shaqs plan succeeded? What new information awaited them?

While waiting, the Shaqs decided to play a game, but would every Shaq be able to join in?

[collapse=Click Here]
<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/M8c-1OlpkHU&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&autoplay=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/M8c-1OlpkHU&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x2b405b&color2=0x6b8ab6&autoplay=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>​
[/collapse]
...



































Yes, all Shaqs were able to take a turn! Everyone was still alive from the previous day. Something tricky sure is going on...

As a forewarning to everyone, I will modkill anyone who reaches 4 technical fouls.

Day 4 Begins

The deadline has been set for February 9th at 12:00pm EST
 

Teran

Through Fire, Justice is Served
Super Moderator
Premium
BRoomer
Joined
Oct 23, 2008
Messages
37,167
Location
Beastector HQ
3DS FC
3540-0079-4988
Detective Shaq mah ***** give us dem results!
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
^.^

vyse please give your results
also please make a text chart of what results you have from what players

vyse:
tom:
kevinm:
xsyven:
teran:
steel:

vote: no lynch

i do believe this game will get to like day 9 or something
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
if we had one more cleared player besides teran, we would auto-win this game. lets try to do exactly that.
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
compounding on my last post,

when you think about it, every player should be willing to lynch every other player except teran. if you consider yourself clear and teran clear, then as long as we correctly lynch once before or on first lylo, we win the game.

look at it from this standpoint, where "me" equals whoever is reading and assumes they are town aligned

me
teran
player1
player2
player3
player4

where 1 and 2 are town and 3 and 4 are mafia. mafia has no kill.

mislynch player 1, was town

me
teran
player2
player3
player4

after one mislynch, we are in lylo. we must lynch correctly this day, so we do.

lynch player 3, was mafia

me
teran
player2
player4

at this point, we have 1 mislynch and 1 lylo lynch and from "me's" perspective, there are only 2 players left who could be scum. so it is auto-win.

fun scenario.
 

KevinM

TB12 TB12 TB12
BRoomer
Joined
Jan 30, 2007
Messages
13,625
Location
Sickboi in the 401
Yeah except what if this is a ******** set-up with two arsonists or something along those lines.

We're giving them the ****ing game.

And I think you know this.

Vote Tom
 

Tom

Bulletproof Doublevoter
BRoomer
Joined
Apr 11, 2006
Messages
15,019
Location
Nashville, TN
Yeah except what if this is a ******** set-up with two arsonists or something along those lines.

We're giving them the ****ing game.

And I think you know this.

Vote Tom
yeah ive been waiting for someone to bring this up and i kind of hoped it would be you because that would help me solidify my personal opinion that you are scum.

this is already at the point of a win-win situation for town. it is day 4. assuming that the terribly improbable "extra arsonist" primed someone who has already died, he would have 2 people primed right now. tomorrow he would have 3 and he would ignite them and then win. so you are only doing something good for town if a) there is an extra arsonist b) i am that extra arsonist.

a game with 2 arsonists, 2 mafia, and 8 town would be terrible. that would be absolutely ****ty modding and i dont expect it at all. also, in games with two arsonists (or an arsonist and a retired arsonist), when either arsonist ignites his primed players, the other arsonist's primed players die as well (because they are already covered in gasoline). hilt ignited his primed day 2, that means if there were an extra arsonist or a retired arsonist then they would have had to either not primed or primed the same person teran firefought.

an extra arsonist / marker / independent role is out of the question. why dont you just sit back and allow vyse to either report or fake a report? youre simply fighting against the tide because we have a comforting way to get a lot more information.

if you seriously think there is another aronist then you are having a huge brain lapse.

your accusation is also snarky and evil because i am not allowed to fake a daykill or ignite or whatever possible bold moves i would need to use to ignite/serial kill anyone in an effort to prove that i am not what you say i am enabling. rules:
10. You are not allowed to publicly fake a command (such as declaring tree stump self-kill in the thread when you are not one).
 
Top Bottom