Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[EarlTamm]

Well, I dunno. Sure many of the Barons aren't exactly super threatening, but Risky is a pretty big threat. And there's the Pirate King. Sure, they're not in the same realm of destruction as Ganondorf, but I think they could stand aside the likes of Bowser and K. Rool.

True, but I feel like she has gotten use to Risky and her shenanigans by now and they even reached an understanding in Pirate's Curse. And while the Pirate Master is a monster, we barely got to see Shantae interact with him. It does not help that the Pirate Master is strangely a more jovial pirate than Risky and treats fighting Shantae as more of a sparring match than a fight to the death, at least until he gets duped by Risky and goes ballistic.

 

[DOTBHDD]

Actually, to the person who made that gif. Can you make one saying "Source?"

I've been needing a Source Gif forever.

 

[Veodok]

I know leaks are dumb (this is not really a leak), but someone who has had insider info before dropped this:

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SO ABOUT THOSE ****ING CHAIRS AGAIN?! OUR GIRL???

srry for double post, one can't fit it all

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[zferolie]

I know leaks are dumb (this is not really a leak), but someone who has had insider info before dropped this:
They listed "averting a similar 'Waluigi Crisis' as there is much discussion about this character" as their reason for giving this info as spoilers are not something they actually give out.

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SO ABOUT THOSE ****ING CHAIRS AGAIN?! OUR GIRL???

As you said

Still, i beleive that. I really think Skull kid would be better as a boss then playable. He could be a very fun boss too. Transformations, blasts of magic, summoning, and can maybe also transform into the different forms of majoras mask. Quite a fitting boss. Plus he was only a boss in 1 game. Every ither villain that is playa le has been in multiple games

That leaves the chairs pointing towards shantae.

 

[Veodok]

As you said

 

[EarlTamm]

I know leaks are dumb (this is not really a leak), but someone who has had insider info before dropped this:

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SO ABOUT THOSE ****ING CHAIRS AGAIN?! OUR GIRL???

srry for double post, one can't fit it all

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What is there track record on this sort of thing?

 

[AngrySun88]

Honestly, I think Skull Kid is a likely boss and I think a big reason why he's such a popular character for leakers is because his assist trophy hasn't shown up yet and because of the bandwagon effect.

While Leaky Panda is a more credible source than most other leakers, I again have to take it with a huge grain of salt as with any leaker.

But if he is only a boss, and if we are to put stock in the chairs, then Shantae is a likely candidate. The purple and yellow plus the Arabian pillow does fit her more than any other character.

 

[Veodok]

What is there track record on this sort of thing?

They've had insider info before, and their motive seems pretty neutral.

 

[EarlTamm]

They've had insider info before, and their motive seems pretty neutral.

So in other words, there not being attention hogs?

 

[Veodok]

So in other words, there not being attention hogs?

Nope. LIke thier tweet said, they don't usually drop spoilers at all. This is an exception.

 

[zferolie]

I wonder how the skull kid fans are taking this news. It sounds like they are saying this to prevent another waluigi event, which is probably wise.

 

[Veodok]

I wonder how the skull kid fans are taking this news. It sounds like they are saying this to prevent another waluigi event, which is probably wise.

I mean you can look on here, but this is the 4chan thread where I saw it.
WreckitRyan do I sense a video now in production ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[AngrySun88]

I trust Leaky Pandy far more than I trust Vergaben or any other attention seeking "leaker". He's gotten things right before and doesn't strike me as someone in it for fame.

I asked him about Shantae so hopefully he has info on her.

 

[MoveMan1]

Wow guys, I can't believe Geno has been confirmed as a boss for the villain story mode.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

I think Shantae could fit in very well in this space, seeing that many characters are interacting with each other but daisy is just there doing that hip pose

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

I'm going to be completely honest; I don't like how condescending LeakyAndy sounds. In my opinion; he sounds a bit biased, immediately jumping to the assumption that there would be a "Waluigi" like reaction. That's a very common thing for a detractor of a character to do; suggest the fans of said character are spoiled whiny children. I don't know how credible I can take him.

 

[Veodok]

immediately jumping to the assumption that there would be a "Waluigi" like reaction

I mean, let's be real here. Any dedicated fanbase for any character has radicals that would freak the hell out if they've been on the edge of their seats for months on end just to be disappointed. Literally for any character, even Shantae. If she gets deconfirmed, I know there will be at least some of her supporters that will act like children.

 

[AngrySun88]

I trust Pandy far more than I trust attention seekers like Vergaben. As I said, I think he has a decent track record and warning Smash fans to avoid a "Waluigi crisis" is actually a good idea.

With that said, I still take all leaks with a huge grain of salt. The next direct can't come soon enough.

 

[meleebrawler]

I think Sakurai is only adding that as a boss for story, plus and AT. Monster hunter is huge, but the most reconizable characters in it are the monsters themselves. no way he can shrink Rathalos down to be playable.

We have seen Bomberman being made an AT, makes sense for a Monster hunter rep to only be an assist. But because it fit so well Sakurai made it a boss for Story mode.

And before you say it gets a stage, that stage is clearly a story mode only one. flat empty plan, no platforms, nothing but rathalos. Pretty sure he's just a story mode boss.

Say hello to Phantom Uragaan.

For reference, this is the usual size of the monster:

And this isn't even getting into the ride-sized monsters you get in Monster Hunter Stories. Size is absolutely not an obstacle for them. Still, you probably have a point about them being better suited as bosses since that's what they were designed to be through and through.

I don't get the argument about the playable hunters (or the Felynes) not being recognizable enough when we have Villager, also a blank-slate avatar. My point is, making Rathalos a boss with his own music and stage (even if it's boss-only) is still very, very significant for a third party. It's only a small step away from having a playable rep.

But back to Shantae. What if the normal good ending to Half-Genie Hero where we learn of the genies guarding the world from outside threats was used as the reasoning for Shantae ultimately joining Smash, as training for if such a threat slips past them?

Regarding villain interaction, Ridley would be the main standout in how he would likely ignore all the standard boss interactions Shantae normally has, like attacking before his name is properly revealed on-screen. He'd also mock Risky for becoming soft with her arch-enemy after working with her.

 

[zferolie]

I mean you can look on here, but this is the 4chan thread where I saw it.
WreckitRyan do I sense a video now in production ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jesus 4chan is ****ing pissed lol. So much hate there for this guy.

I trust Leaky Pandy far more than I trust Vergaben or any other attention seeking "leaker". He's gotten things right before and doesn't strike me as someone in it for fame.

I asked him about Shantae so hopefully he has info on her.

He said in the tweet they dont normally post spoilers, so i doubt they will say anything about shanatae if she is in.

Say hello to Phantom Uragaan.

For reference, this is the usual size of the monster:

And this isn't even getting into the ride-sized monsters you get in Monster Hunter Stories. Size is absolutely not an obstacle for them. Still, you probably have a point about them being better suited as bosses since that's what they were designed to be through and through.

I don't get the argument about the playable hunters (or the Felynes) not being recognizable enough when we have Villager, also a blank-slate avatar. My point is, making Rathalos a boss with his own music and stage (even if it's boss-only) is still very, very significant for a third party. It's only a small step away from having a playable rep.

But back to Shantae. What if the normal good ending to Half-Genie Hero where we learn of the genies guarding the world from outside threats was used as the reasoning for Shantae ultimately joining Smash, as training for if such a threat slips past them?

Regarding villain interaction, Ridley would be the main standout in how he would likely ignore all the standard boss interactions Shantae normally has, like attacking before his name is properly revealed on-screen. He'd also mock Risky for becoming soft with her arch-enemy after working with her.

I know of the smaller monsters, and the riding ones. And i know hunter was playable in MvCI. I just think sakurai wouldnt announce rathalos before a playable character if we were going to get one.

Plus, that would give capcom 3 series in the game, while other 3rd parties have 1 or 2. Seems unfair a bit of sakurai.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Say hello to Phantom Uragaan.

For reference, this is the usual size of the monster:

And this isn't even getting into the ride-sized monsters you get in Monster Hunter Stories. Size is absolutely not an obstacle for them. Still, you probably have a point about them being better suited as bosses since that's what they were designed to be through and through.

I don't get the argument about the playable hunters (or the Felynes) not being recognizable enough when we have Villager, also a blank-slate avatar. My point is, making Rathalos a boss with his own music and stage (even if it's boss-only) is still very, very significant for a third party. It's only a small step away from having a playable rep.

But back to Shantae. What if the normal good ending to Half-Genie Hero where we learn of the genies guarding the world from outside threats was used as the reasoning for Shantae ultimately joining Smash, as training for if such a threat slips past them?

Regarding villain interaction, Ridley would be the main standout in how he would likely ignore all the standard boss interactions Shantae normally has, like attacking before his name is properly revealed on-screen. He'd also mock Risky for becoming soft with her arch-enemy after working with her.

Worked with her once, and the next game embarked on probably her most dastardly plot yet. Risky isn't soft.

 

[meleebrawler]

Jesus 4chan is ****ing pissed lol. So much hate there for this guy.



He said in the tweet they dont normally post spoilers, so i doubt they will say anything about shanatae if she is in.



I know of the smaller monsters, and the riding ones. And i know hunter was playable in MvCI. I just think sakurai wouldnt announce rathalos before a playable character if we were going to get one.

Plus, that would give capcom 3 series in the game, while other 3rd parties have 1 or 2. Seems unfair a bit of sakurai.

Yeah, well, we got an Animal Crossing stage and music before a playable rep.

Capcom can't really help two of those series being big on classic Nintendo, and Monster Hunter being absolutely massive, especially in Japan.

Worked with her once, and the next game embarked on probably her most dastardly plot yet. Risky isn't soft.

Oh, it isn't to say Risky became less villainous per se, it's just her intentions for Shantae specifically that went from murderous to "try and convert her to my side". And when her plot is foiled, despite making a big show about how Shantae will totally die in her collapsing fortress, she does nothing to personally prevent Shantae from escaping, unlike in the first game where she tries to murder Shantae in retaliation for ruining her mech, then spends the entirety of the next game plotting her downfall before anything else.

Risky could probably retort to Ridley that he isn't ambitious enough due to always working under someone else.

 

[EarlTamm]

Oh, it isn't to say Risky became less villainous per se, it's just her intentions for Shantae specifically that went from murderous to "try and convert her to my side". And when her plot is foiled, despite making a big show about how Shantae will totally die in her collapsing fortress, she does nothing to personally prevent Shantae from escaping, unlike in the first game where she tries to murder Shantae in retaliation for ruining her mech.

Risky could probably retort to Ridley that he isn't ambitious enough due to always working under someone else.

Plus, in HGH her plan was entirly based on her faith in Shantae to build the dynamo. Risky is still evil, but she does have respect for Shantae.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Plus, in HGH her plan was entirly based on her faith in Shantae to build the dynamo. Risky is still evil, but she does have respect for Shantae.

I'd say the plan required for Mimic to not realize that the plans had changed, but that's neither here nor there. Even though, come on Mimic, where was your head at?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So, if this tweet is accurate, that's the Smash community as a whole been consitently wrong about who they think is next as a whole.

1st was Waluigi
2nd was Ashley
And now Skull Kid.

Strange to say this but now I hope the whole community doesn't get behind supporting Shantae.

 

[meleebrawler]

I'd say the plan required for Mimic to not realize that the plans had changed, but that's neither here nor there. Even though, come on Mimic, where was your head at?

Damn olds! Always striking at the worst times.

 

[EarlTamm]

I'd say the plan required for Mimic to not realize that the plans had changed, but that's neither here nor there. Even though, come on Mimic, where was your head at?

It required both that and Shantae to actually be able to gather the parts. So it was trust in Shantae skills and Mimic's old man powers of memory loss.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Damn olds! Always striking at the worst times.

Too true! But hey, is it worse than being called a drooling idiot statue? Poor Bolo.

So, if this tweet is accurate, that's the Smash community as a whole been consitently wrong about who they think is next as a whole.

1st was Waluigi
2nd was Ashley
And now Skull Kid.

Strange to say this but now I hope the whole community doesn't get behind supporting Shantae.

Waluigi is more of a meme than a character at this point. No offense to anyone who wanted him, but I just don't see the appeal of him outside of trolling people with endless "Waaaa"s.

 

[meleebrawler]

Too true! But hey, is it worse than being called a drooling idiot statue? Poor Bolo.

Waluigi is more of a meme than a character at this point. No offense to anyone who wanted him, but I just don't see the appeal of him outside of trolling people with endless "Waaaa"s.

Friends to the End does a good job highlighting his skills in action. If he just had someone to watch his back or otherwise keep him from going in over his head he'd be a great asset.

 

[TheKnight]

Too true! But hey, is it worse than being called a drooling idiot statue? Poor Bolo.

Waluigi is more of a meme than a character at this point. No offense to anyone who wanted him, but I just don't see the appeal of him outside of trolling people with endless "Waaaa"s.

Oof. Man, I’ve loved Waluigi as a character since childhood. I’d always pick him in party, kart, and sports games. He’s just a big self-pity party who’s jealous of everyone else and accuses them of cheating. Thus, he himself feels justified in cheating to get the upper hand and be in the spotlight. Waluigi has found himself in the most literally Waluigi position possible in regards to Smash. I think it would be hilarious if he “broke the rules” and became playable, but that’s just my opinion. Anyway, back to Shantae...

 

[Deleted member]

Jeebus guys. i go away for 5 days and you all add about 25 page of this thread,.

 

[Veodok]

Jeebus guys. i go away for 5 days and you all add about 25 page of this thread,.

Quick rundown of 'new' stuff this week if you're just jumping in rn or don't want to tread through the past couple dozen pages:

• WayForward used a piece of concept art from HGH--that was only ever used for a smash-related tweet 3 years ago--recently in their celebration of 60k followers.
• An insider @LeakyPandy (I hesitate to actually call them a leaker because they don't really leak stuff) dropped some info that Skull Kid is a boss in Ultimate which, if taken seriously, leaves the two chairs pointing towards the color scheme of Shantae instead.

 

[DOTBHDD]

Isn't Shantae Red and Purple.

I think the whole chair thing is stupid, of course. However; if it were referencing anyone, it's Rayman.

 

[EarlTamm]

Isn't Shantae Red and Purple.

I think the whole chair thing is stupid, of course. However; if it were referencing anyone, it's Rayman.

well, there is a lot of yellow in her color scheme as well.

 

[LunarLiv]

Shantae's hair and hairband are yellow and purple, but I'm not sure the chairs even mean anything, i dunno

Oh, plus red, arabic style cushions.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Isn't Shantae Red and Purple.

I think the whole chair thing is stupid, of course. However; if it were referencing anyone, it's Rayman.

The yellow could reference her jewelry. Especially since the pillows are kinda red. But hey, it may just be Sakurai being an eccentric decorator.

EDIT: 'd

 

[PichuMain]

Isn't Shantae Red and Purple.

I think the whole chair thing is stupid, of course. However; if it were referencing anyone, it's Rayman.

Both makes sense. Purple is Shantae's hair, and Shantae is littered with Gold. But Rayman has a purple hoodie and yellow shoes. So its not wrong to assume one or the other.

 

[WingedSupernova]

So, if this tweet is accurate, that's the Smash community as a whole been consitently wrong about who they think is next as a whole.

1st was Waluigi
2nd was Ashley
And now Skull Kid.

Strange to say this but now I hope the whole community doesn't get behind supporting Shantae.

Unfortunately if Skull Kid is deconfirmed as a boss the community will turn to either Rayman or Shantae as the next target for the Ikea furniture conspiracy.

 

[EarlTamm]

You know, with this whole chair and pillow thing, it all is supported by the fact that E3's room had a interesting DK like theme. As in the whole room. About everything in the E3 room contributed to that theme(The wood texture, the plant, the barrel, how the book's looked, the rope ladder, etc), so wouldn't the direct room do the same rather than having just 2 or 3 items hint at something? What does the room as whole reference?

 

[Sudz]

So, if this tweet is accurate, that's the Smash community as a whole been consitently wrong about who they think is next as a whole.

1st was Waluigi
2nd was Ashley
And now Skull Kid.

Strange to say this but now I hope the whole community doesn't get behind supporting Shantae.

This can be avoided if they deconfirm Skull Kid and confirm Shantae at the same time!