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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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No. That's kind of the point I was making. Partner Pikachu looks like any Pikachu. You could just as easily call it plain old Pikachu, or say Red's Pikachu, etc, etc. and it still fits with the design because they all look the same.

It's designated as Partner Pikachu because it's meant to be the Let's Go Trainer's starter specifically. Its given a distinction because its a specific character.
I know

Either way character without spirits getting in isn’t gonna be a problem anymore the only thing that will be a problem is that if Sakurai said we can’t make spirits into dlc fighters
 
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Been a while since I’ve traversed to this thread hasn’t it?

1. I ain’t giving up on our Half-Genie Hero. Even though she’s a spirit (my personal fav too) and online icon, she could still somehow make it in. At least I hope she could.

2. I recently completed the Officer mode for HGH! Now to do Ninja and Beach.

3. I changed my avatar for no reason other than I could.

4. I’ve been thinking... what would a Shantae carpet racing game be like? Just something that popped in my head.
 

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i think what helps shantae's chances would be that it wouldn't take much to get her into the game it's not like she's A Big Triple A Character that would cost a pretty penny to introduce as a playable character compared to People Like Sora(Kingdom Hearts)
 

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No not at all










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I feel ashamed
You should be. Just kidding! Should pick up a version and try it out, unless you have already and didn't like it. Which is fair enough.
Can't wait to see what Gen 8 is gonna look like, much hype.
 

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You should be. Just kidding! Should pick up a version and try it out, unless you have already and didn't like it. Which is fair enough.
Can't wait to see what Gen 8 is gonna look like, much hype.
Gen 8 is going to be great. Gamefreak is really working themselves hard to make this game possible. They told us that we can expect a true "evolution" to the gameplay from the previous Gen games. Maybe that new Mewtwo movie coming this year will give us a hint.
 

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Not saying she won't get in DLC. But she's obviously not the "Brave" fighter.

The fighter in question doesn't have a rapid jab. Something Shantae has famous access to with her hair whips and other abilities.

Not to mention, other stats and datamined attributes that contradict Shantae.

Also, I don't think "devil's advocate" means what you think it means.
What makes you so certain Shantae has to have a rapid jab? She only remotely attains that kind of speed with heavy (and optional) upgrades, but after some thinking there's just no way they could animate her head swinging at the speed it would need to link properly and make it look good. It could very easily be a single hit like Isabelle's, but with good reach (possibly longer than her ftilt).

Not to mention these stats are hardly finalized as we've just seen with Piranha Plant. But if I had to guess what Shantae's parameters would be, they'd probably be close to average all-around.
 
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but after some thinking there's just no way they could animate her head swinging at the speed it would need to link properly and make it look good.
Your first and most critical my mistake there is underestimating Sakurai and his team in that department. They like stay faithful and you can bet if anyone can do it and make it look good, they can. They've done tougher before.
 

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Gen 8 is going to be great. Gamefreak is really working themselves hard to make this game possible. They told us that we can expect a true "evolution" to the gameplay from the previous Gen games. Maybe that new Mewtwo movie coming this year will give us a hint.
I'm expecting we're gonna be getting a taste of Gen 8 soonish. Feels like they seem to show off the starters and some things at the start of the year, and then release the game in November. I don't know when the last time we got some new Pokemon in the movies before we've had the game, but maybe we'll see something this year. From what I want to see from Gen 8, I would like to see some older Pokemon get evolutions. There's a few from Gen 1 I would like to see get more.
 

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Actually, spiky ears for Pichu mean that they're female.
That is false, Pichu has no sexual dimorphism (physical difference dictated by gender) Pikachu and Raichu both have different tails depending on thier gender, but not pichu. The Spiky Eared Pichu was a special event pokemon for HeartGold/Soul Silver and was one of the few pokemon who could not be transferred out of that generation.

Now it is true that that Pichu was gender locked as female, but it's spikey ear was a trait unique to it and not any other female pichu.
 

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Your first and most critical my mistake there is underestimating Sakurai and his team in that department. They like stay faithful and you can bet if anyone can do it and make it look good, they can. They've done tougher before.
OK, but what if they think representing the hair whip as a single hit that can be repeated is more faithful than a jab inifinite?
 

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OK, but what if they think representing the hair whip as a single hit that can be repeated is more faithful than a jab inifinite?
Like I said, she has plenty of other moves and tools that fit a jab. And that's even going into "Brave"'s hitbox size, lack of a wall jump, etc.

Now, if Shantae didn't have access to such, she'd be on the table given how "Brave" can also translate to "Hero". Like a Half Genie Hero.

Then again, we also have the unfortunate timing if Matt's tweet regarding her getting into Season Pass 1 already which kinda blasted how likely she was looking for this season anyway. Bummer on that. Though there's still DLC beyond hopefully.
 
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Like I said, she has plenty of other moves and tools that fit a jab. And that's even going into "Brave"'s hitbox size, lack of a wall jump, etc.

Now, if Shantae didn't have access to such, she'd be on the table given how "Brave" can also translate to "Hero". Like a Half Genie Hero.

Then again, we also have the unfortunate timing if Matt's tweet regarding her getting into Season Pass 1 already which kinda blasted how likely she was looking for this season anyway. Bummer on that. Though there's still DLC beyond hopefully.
That’s what I kept saying to myself that there might be more waves if there is any and there might be one that has to do with spirits if there is one
 

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Is there any other spirit battle, WoL or Spirit Board that uses Smash music like Shantae?
 
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Is there any other spirit battle, WoL or Spirit Board that uses Smash music like Shantae?
Well the detective pikachu spirit uses the shop music but you don’t hear that on battlefield for all I know

And the master forms from smash 4 use master core

To make it short
She’s the only third party and last primary spirit without a fighter or assist trophy to use the mob smash theme
 
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Like I said, she has plenty of other moves and tools that fit a jab. And that's even going into "Brave"'s hitbox size, lack of a wall jump, etc.

Now, if Shantae didn't have access to such, she'd be on the table given how "Brave" can also translate to "Hero". Like a Half Genie Hero.

Then again, we also have the unfortunate timing if Matt's tweet regarding her getting into Season Pass 1 already which kinda blasted how likely she was looking for this season anyway. Bummer on that. Though there's still DLC beyond hopefully.
What is this tweet you speak of?
 

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ehh.......codenames are not accurate since they could be for another character. Remember that Data Mining is more of a blind hunt then helpful since the dev team has the advantage on the development.
 

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Well, it finally came and looks great next to my Temmie pin.
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Interesting note. When others on here started reporting their pins arrived and i had yet to even hear if mine had shipped, i wrote the company to inquire if something was wrong. As it turns out, the demand for Shantae pins (not their other pins but specifically our girl) was so great that they had to order even more to fulfill all the purchases made.

It's good to hear that Shantae is still going strong.
 

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Well, it finally came and looks great next to my Temmie pin.

Interesting note. When others on here started reporting their pins arrived and i had yet to even hear if mine had shipped, i wrote the company to inquire if something was wrong. As it turns out, the demand for Shantae pins (not their other pins but specifically our girl) was so great that they had to order even more to fulfill all the purchases made.

It's good to hear that Shantae is still going strong.
Ah man, this looks great! Would like to have something like this to show off. I wanted a Shantae shirt for a while now but as it turns out I'm extremely picky about shirts. Art wise aside, I'm just a big guy and have sensitive skin so I want them to be loose feeling. Finding bigger shirts feels more like a pain then it should be.
 

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What is this tweet you speak of?
The tweet that Matt made not too long after the November Direct where arguably it was confirmed that all the DLC picks had been made, hence Rex not making it in. He essentially tried to rally support for Shantae as DLC, likely not knowing that to be the case, which is in issue in itself already.

Even if there was room for doubt, not too long after, Sakurai made the famous tweet in English, official re-affirming that all DLC was picked and asked fans not to bug him or Nintendo about character requests for the time being. Of course, Matt deleted the tweet orginally including a hashtag of supporting Shantae for Season 1 DLC, changing it to DLC in general.

Given how long it takes to do much as negotiate a DLC character, unless Sakurai is lying (don't bother with that logic), the timing is against Shantae in regards to making it into the Season 1 DLC pass as a fighter.
 
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The tweet that Matt made not too long after the November Direct where arguably it was confirmed that all the DLC picks had been made, hence Rex not making it in. He essentially tried to rally support for Shantae as DLC, likely not knowing that to be the case, which is in issue in itself already.

Even if there was room for doubt, not too long after, Sakurai made the famous tweet in English, official re-affirming that all DLC was picked and asked fans not to bug him or Nintendo about character requests for the time being. Of course, Matt deleted the tweet orginally including a hashtag of supporting Shantae for Season 1 DLC, changing it to DLC in general.

Given how long it takes to do much as negotiate a DLC character, unless Sakurai is lying (don't bother with that logic), the timing is against Shantae in regards to making it into the Season 1 DLC pass as a fighter.
Well there could be more dlc if there is any
 

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Well, it finally came and looks great next to my Temmie pin.

Interesting note. When others on here started reporting their pins arrived and i had yet to even hear if mine had shipped, i wrote the company to inquire if something was wrong. As it turns out, the demand for Shantae pins (not their other pins but specifically our girl) was so great that they had to order even more to fulfill all the purchases made.

It's good to hear that Shantae is still going strong.
The Shantae reddit has become unusually active with art as of late. Check out this holy Smash Shantae trinity:

 
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The Shantae reddit has become unusually active with art as of late. Check out this holy Smash Shantae trinity:


Hooo boi looks like this went out with a bad start
 
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see what nintendo plans to do on the upcoming year. Also, don't forget that this year is Smash Bros 20th anniversary. Though the month has not arrived yet
uhh its actually a few weeks away given its Japan release.
 

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Hooo boi looks like this went out with a bad start
What a whiny ****bag

agh I doubleposted
 
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Hooo boi looks like this went out with a bad start
Better to be on the quiet side then going all out on the attention. Or else it will end up backfiring in a bad way for the online communities to lose respect towards her
 

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OK, off topic, but it's driving me crazy and maybe one of you guys can help.

I have one summon exclusive spirit that i haven't gotten yet, the Formula Spirit from Xenoblade X. Problem is i don;t have the "Mech" spirit to use as material. I have never seen this spirit. I know it's not in WoL because I 100% that. The only things that ever show up on the spirit board are things I have completed and the two Legends I am still having a hard time with (Baby Bowser and Ninten)

So, is this spirit something that only shows up in the shops and I've just had rotten luck? Do the shops work in such a way that they won't sell certain spirits until others have been purchased for the first time?
 

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OK, off topic, but it's driving me crazy and maybe one of you guys can help.

I have one summon exclusive spirit that i haven't gotten yet, the Formula Spirit from Xenoblade X. Problem is i don;t have the "Mech" spirit to use as material. I have never seen this spirit. I know it's not in WoL because I 100% that. The only things that ever show up on the spirit board are things I have completed and the two Legends I am still having a hard time with (Baby Bowser and Ninten)

So, is this spirit something that only shows up in the shops and I've just had rotten luck? Do the shops work in such a way that they won't sell certain spirits until others have been purchased for the first time?
Every shop sells different spirit types. Funky's shop sells transport spirits.

If you are looking for that spirit, go for the spirit board. Its luck if you find it, but you can use the board items to help you. Is the spirit a Primary or Support?
 
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Guys I still get the feeling he’s still lurking around

Watching us

Waiting to make his next strike

OK, off topic, but it's driving me crazy and maybe one of you guys can help.

I have one summon exclusive spirit that i haven't gotten yet, the Formula Spirit from Xenoblade X. Problem is i don;t have the "Mech" spirit to use as material. I have never seen this spirit. I know it's not in WoL because I 100% that. The only things that ever show up on the spirit board are things I have completed and the two Legends I am still having a hard time with (Baby Bowser and Ninten)

So, is this spirit something that only shows up in the shops and I've just had rotten luck? Do the shops work in such a way that they won't sell certain spirits until others have been purchased for the first time?
Go check funky Kong I think they have it there
 

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Every shop sells different spirit types. Funky's shop sells transport spirits.

If you are looking for that spirit, go for the spirit board. Its luck if you find it, but you can use the board items to help you. Is the spirit a Primary or Support?
I don't know what kind of spirit it is. I've been trying to find out online, but all I can find are just lists of every spirit with no detail.

I imagine it must be exclusive to shops because the Spirit board Highly favors spirits you don't have (like every time i would summon a spirit, the next time i checked the board all the materials would be there)

But I keep checking the WoL shops and keep seeing the same few spirits rotating through

Edit: Disregard. It ended up in Sheldon's shop. I had seen it before but never knew it was the one I was looking for because by it's looks i thought it was one of the player characters from Federation force and not a Mech suit.
 
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maybe it was too much to hope for A Non-Japanese Character from A Non-Japanese series to be introduced to smash
Couldn't be due to anything like not being able to implement transformation features etc, since Zelda could do it just fine in the past. If she's not ever getting in this one, it'd be nice to know why, or at least WayForward just say it if they know.
 
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