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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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EarlTamm

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Issac thread got sunk bad. Can't fault them for being depressed.

Skull Kid thread was hopeful, but then got their hopes sniped.

Shadow thread seem battered and tired.

The Phoenix Wright thread has seen a positive uplift in activity and hope though.
Why is the Phoenix Wright thread in a good mood? Did they see something to be excited about?
 
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Why is the Phoenix Wright thread in a good mood? Did they see something to be excited about?
Probably because nothing showed with him at all. Meaning to them as a possible DLC.
 

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Why is the Phoenix Wright thread in a good mood? Did they see something to be excited about?
The fact that he survived all the waves, assist, spirit and mii costumes.

Also, the fact v that Sakurai is confirmed to have met with Shu Takumi during the time frame that Sakurai confirmed that DLC was delliberated and decided on.
 

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Remind me again how PacMan was first hinted at in Smash 4?


Again how was Pacman first discovered?

Mistakes like that doesn't happened in an official work to the point where the creators themselves do not want to acknowledge said mistake. If they had come out and stated "It's just a small thing, nothing to worry about." I wouldn't be taking this as such a hint. I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai did this knowing people would not take it seriously. Especially after the amount of obscure things he did for putting hints in trailers. This is basically "Majora's Mask 3D hinted at in A Link Between Worlds" type of thing.

Like I said so long as WayForward keeps silence about the error in THEIR LICENSED PRODUCT ARTWORK then I will continue to push this hint.

#ShantaeForSmashDLC (I added a color Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy knows well ;) )
Considering the number of comments and messages they get, and the somewhat low amount they respond, you can't take their non-response as a hint for anything.
Right now there's a lot of questions about her role in dlc or not, so that one is more telling, and I hope we get answer or hints about it. Silence itself is a hint, but it's an unsatisfying one for me right now :p
 
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This thread is so friendly and nurturing now, I love it.

I think you guys are reading way too deeply into Matt Bozon's Twitter posts now. Regardless of Shantae's degree of representation in Smash, it's not hard to imagine Nintendo preferring that WayForward not share all the details about the process and the decisions reached. Even if Nintendo did not express that to WayForward explicitly, you could understand it as basic professional discretion. The chances you are gonna get a meaningful hint one way or the other from WF staff are very slim.

Ok, I’m also trying to think about how their spirit battles would work. Like I could see Bolo being represented by Ike or Richter and the Rottytops stand-in being fought on Luigi’s Mansion
Bolo represented as Richter with Brawl tripping plus becomes dizzy when a female Assist Trophy appears.

We should band together with our friends over at the Geno board and try to get both of our newcomers in. We're in the same boat, and I think we both deserve to be in at this point, and we definitely have the momentum for it.
More important than banding together with any specific thread or fandom is just cultivating a general culture of civility and camaraderie among all the different character campaigns. Obviously that's just the right thing to do, but it also serves Shantae's cause specifically. Shantae was very popular but also very polarizing, and so she attracted not only an unusual amount of support but an unusual amount of hate. The more other character campaigns see Shantae fans supporting them and encouraging them, the less they will tolerate people being dismissive and vitriolic towards Shantae.

Alright. Hopefully everything goes okay!


Anyway, im off to bed.

Before I go, though... I was thinking. What exactly are we going to talk about without Smash speculation?


I hope there's at least a bit of extra information to come out soon...
Oh there's always plenty we can talk about. There's no real pressure for this thread to stay strictly on topic as long as we aren't getting too contentious in here. I was planning to ask everyone what newcomer and what veteran they are most excited for whenever discussion started to die down.

Yeah which is why I knew the moment I asked the question to Matt and WayForward "Why is her artwork mirrored?" I get total silence. I was not even talking about potential DLC but just what was shown.
In all the Spirits battles, it shows the player character on the left, and the Spirit character(s) on the right. I assumed they flipped the image so it would seem like Shantae was facing towards the player character, rather than facing away. I don't think there's anything more to it than that.

Heh guys I’m coming from the Isaac thread asking if any of you are willing to help us with future golden sun support and possiblynisaac getting promoted to playable. I am going to support you guys with shantae all the way and hope that we can work together just you and the geno bros.
Well I don't know if my support really counts for much in the absence of any Smash Ballot, but Isaac has become my most desired newcomer after Shantae.
 

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Issac thread got sunk bad. Can't fault them for being depressed.

Skull Kid thread was hopeful, but then got their hopes sniped.

Shadow thread seem battered and tired.

The Phoenix Wright thread has seen a positive uplift in activity and hope though.
From what I've seen the Issac thread has opted to taking a more active approach since they just want Golden Sun to be represented more.

The main two I've seen are sending an open letter to Nintendo on Golden Sun's NA birthday to voice their opinions, and creating a fan game/spinoff to at least gain some recognition.

It's pretty admirable and I respect their determination despite Nintendo constantly letting them down.
 

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This could be bad or good news (Since Verg gained some credibility ...)

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437471093/vergeben-supports-hitagis-claim

What do you guys think of that ? Wasn't Katalina shown as a spirit too ?
I doubt it. Verge's claims have more weight to them now, but he still doesn't know everything, he missed quite a bit of stuff, and is bound to make a mistake at some points.
It's not impossible for some of them. But to pick two rpg characters without geno around? it would be quite weird.
Also they put the plant in there when it's a free dlc that's not part of those.
 
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This could be bad or good news (Since Verg gained some credibility ...)

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437471093/vergeben-supports-hitagis-claim

What do you guys think of that ? Wasn't Katalina shown as a spirit too ?

EDIT : I mixed Katalina with someone else, she is not a spirit.
I am leaning towards a dragon quest slime over a hero myself. I say its 50 50 between that and geno. While we all love geno, you got to look what makes more sense from a business stand. Dragon quest is massive in japan, more so then geno.

I am torn on steve. I can see it happening, but also could be something else, heck we could get banjo as a character and the stage he comes with is minecraft.

Katarina makes sense. Nintendo owns part of cygames, Granblue is massive in japan, and nintendo and cygames made a new game together.

I can see those 3 being liekly. Also still have high hopes for shantae to be the 4th. That leaves 1 left. Would it be a 1dt party nintendo character, or another 3rd party like rayman or a ubisoft character?

I doubt it. Verge's claims have more weight to them now, but he still doesn't know everything, he missed quite a bit of stuff, and is bound to make a mistake at some points.
It's not impossible for some of them. But to pick two rpg characters without geno around? it would be quite weird.
Also they put the plant in there when it's a free dlc that's not part of those.
Anything he has said has been true so far, so we cant just ignore that stuff anymore. I think that image was just a guess though, not what verge said. All he says is a se rep
 

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This thread is so friendly and nurturing now, I love it.

I think you guys are reading way too deeply into Matt Bozon's Twitter posts now. Regardless of Shantae's degree of representation in Smash, it's not hard to imagine Nintendo preferring that WayForward not share all the details about the process and the decisions reached. Even if Nintendo did not express that to WayForward explicitly, you could understand it as basic professional discretion. The chances you are gonna get a meaningful hint one way or the other from WF staff are very slim.
I very much really disagree with that. I think that you havent really known how WayForward has been in the past. We talked quite a bit about them and how they've been with fans. I dont think it would fit with their profile. They themselves went on board to push shantae for smash because of the fans. They also saw how much people wanted her in this smash cycle too, very strongly. They know it's important to us, and no 'courtesy' to nintendo would make them suddenly turn a blind eye to them/us. If they did, I would lose respect for them, because they'd be choosing something unnecessary in terms of business over what really matters--their fanbase (which are customers, too). They were silent because of an nda. And now, if they dont have to be, they should speak. There might still be one (which would be good news), or there might be another reason that we dont know yet.
 

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WayForward's silence is once again our biggest piece to hold on to. It did hide something the first time around ... If it was fully dead and nothing else was up, wouldn't they tell us ? They may be hoping to get a DLC upgrade as well ?
 

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I am leaning towards a dragon quest slime over a hero myself. I say its 50 50 between that and geno. While we all love geno, you got to look what makes more sense from a business stand. Dragon quest is massive in japan, more so then geno.

I am torn on steve. I can see it happening, but also could be something else, heck we could get banjo as a character and the stage he comes with is minecraft.

Katarina makes sense. Nintendo owns part of cygames, Granblue is massive in japan, and nintendo and cygames made a new game together.

I can see those 3 being liekly. Also still have high hopes for shantae to be the 4th. That leaves 1 left. Would it be a 1dt party nintendo character, or another 3rd party like rayman or a ubisoft character?



Anything he has said has been true so far, so we cant just ignore that stuff anymore. I think that image was just a guess though, not what verge said. All he says is a se rep
Im not ignoring it, and I'm actually giving it more weight. But it's the reality that they dont know everything and that they can also make mistakes (depending on the sources.) A 'source' from microsoft would definitely be a different one from the square one, and who knows if they can be trusted. It's best to be skeptical to some degree than buy stuff totally just because they have a good track record with now more things. Some of the stuff can easily be likely too, but if you know how insiders work, it's not all good info.
 
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Can you guys actually see Shantae's spirit unlock challenge ( with Samus, killing edge ect. ) get replaced with her actual self later ? If they intended to make her playable all along, wouldn't they just not do anything about her in the first place and keep it for DLC ? We don't even know if the DLC characters have been chosen alrdeay ...

EDIT : I'm done overthinking for now xD the game will be awesom anyway and the war is luckily not quite over yet for us ! :D
 
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Can you guys actually see Shantae's spirit unlock challenge ( with Samus, killing edge ect. ) get replaced with her actual self later ? If they intended to make her playable all along, wouldn't they just not do anything about her in the first place and keep it for DLC ?
They might change it, or not.
All spirits have challenges. DLC will probably not have any impact on the spirit/story mode.
I mean, they could change some things. Like, for wii fit trainer's spirit, how do you suppose you get it?
What if thre's a piranha plant one? (which might be likely)
 
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Bolo represented as Richter with Brawl tripping plus becomes dizzy when a female Assist Trophy appears.
Eh, I could see the tripping though I dont know if they’d be able to be that specific concerning assists,

Considering he throws pike balls, I could see his battle involving an invisible Dedede throwing Gordos or dealing with Color TV-Game 15 while fighting him
 

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They might change it, or not.
All spirits have challenges. DLC will probably not have any impact on the spirit/story mode.
I mean, they could change some things. Like, for wii fit trainer's spirit, how do you suppose you get it?
Well, wii fit's just a representation of the tree pose and is just a "support" spirit while Shantae is an Ace one and they thought it was good enough to represet her as ZSS with a killing edge. Actually I have no idea about anything especially at the moment *brain dead*
 

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WayForward's silence is once again our biggest piece to hold on to. It did hide something the first time around ... If it was fully dead and nothing else was up, wouldn't they tell us ? They may be hoping to get a DLC upgrade as well ?
Their silence speaks volumes. We can wait and hope to see what happens.

Im not ignoring it, and I'm actually giving it more weight. But it's the reality that they dont know everything and that they can also make mistakes (depending on the sources.) A 'source' from microsoft would definitely be a different one from the square one, and who knows if they can be trusted. It's best to be skeptical to some degree than buy stuff totally just because they have a good track record with now more things. Some of the stuff can easily be likely too, but if you know how insiders work, it's not all good info.
That is true, he doesnt know everything. He only jeard about the plant a day before and wasnt sure if it was true, he missed all but one echo. He could have old info about minecraft.

Honestly, i think the SE rep is the only sure fire thing. Katarina is pribably less likely then that, followed by minecraft. Its possible that the minecraft is just a stage, and could be a free stage. We all assumed the stage screen would have 5 more plus a dlc, but thats not the case. So now if we get 5 stages that still leaves 1 blank. It could be a free minecraft stage updaye not tied to the foghter pass. Like how we got the mario maker stage last game.

So on that, i will say this is my predictions for now. Free minecraft stage, SE rep as one of the packs, Katarina as another of the packs, shantae ad a third pack. A retro 1st party as a 4th, and then either a bandai namco or ubisoft character as a pack. Or another nintendo one like rhythm heaven
 

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Well, wii fit's just a representation of the tree pose and is just a "support" spirit while Shantae is an Ace one and they thought it was good enough to represet her as ZSS with a killing edge. Actually I have no idea about anything especially at the moment *brain dead*
Yeah.. i dunno my understanding was that each spirit has a power value based on the tier, but also that each have a support ability or the other one depending on where you put/equip them. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I am leaning towards a dragon quest slime over a hero myself. I say its 50 50 between that and geno. While we all love geno, you got to look what makes more sense from a business stand. Dragon quest is massive in japan, more so then geno.

I am torn on steve. I can see it happening, but also could be something else, heck we could get banjo as a character and the stage he comes with is minecraft.

Katarina makes sense. Nintendo owns part of cygames, Granblue is massive in japan, and nintendo and cygames made a new game together.

I can see those 3 being liekly. Also still have high hopes for shantae to be the 4th. That leaves 1 left. Would it be a 1dt party nintendo character, or another 3rd party like rayman or a ubisoft character?



Anything he has said has been true so far, so we cant just ignore that stuff anymore. I think that image was just a guess though, not what verge said. All he says is a se rep
I think I read somewhere that Bethesda has been in contact with Sakurai over potential DLC so a Bethesda character like Doomguy or Vault Boy would account for the one remaining DLC spot.
 

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Their silence speaks volumes. We can wait and hope to see what happens.



That is true, he doesnt know everything. He only jeard about the plant a day before and wasnt sure if it was true, he missed all but one echo. He could have old info about minecraft.

Honestly, i think the SE rep is the only sure fire thing. Katarina is pribably less likely then that, followed by minecraft. Its possible that the minecraft is just a stage, and could be a free stage. We all assumed the stage screen would have 5 more plus a dlc, but thats not the case. So now if we get 5 stages that still leaves 1 blank. It could be a free minecraft stage updaye not tied to the foghter pass. Like how we got the mario maker stage last game.

So on that, i will say this is my predictions for now. Free minecraft stage, SE rep as one of the packs, Katarina as another of the packs, shantae ad a third pack. A
Yeah. They talked about mii fighter outfits but not saying where they're purchasable or if they're free. So my guess is that there'll be other dlc besides these sets of 5. Verge did say there's minecraft content, but it could also be a set with a mii fighter or something (something mentioned before, mightve even been you).
Katrina would be cool, though i dont know anything about the person who claimed her.

I would hope they prioritize some more ballot picks. And if they did plan dlc way before, which it seems they couldve done, then it'd give more explanation for an nda, and why it's been this long. Im not saying they couldnt have contacted WF for a spirit appearnce so long in advance, but what makes more sense?

I think I read somewhere that Bethesda has been in contact with Sakurai over potential DLC so a Bethesda character like Doomguy or Vault Boy would account for the one remaining DLC spot.
I really doubt it.
 
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This could be bad or good news (Since Verg gained some credibility ...)

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/437471093/vergeben-supports-hitagis-claim

What do you guys think of that ? Wasn't Katalina shown as a spirit too ?
Ugh what a gross leak. I really do not want Steve, Eldrick from Dragon Quest has absolutely no appeal for me, and then a generic anime-looking character from a random gacha phone game? I already pre-purchased the season pass because I couldn't imagine not wanting every available Smash character, but if we're starting with a trio like that, I might regret my purchase.

Sadly, Vergeben's record on Smash stuff is quite strong now, so whatever portion of this he's backing up is probably real.

Browsing the thread, it seems that Verge is very sure of Steve, so as much as it pains me to say it, I think Steve is happening. Guess I better start resigning myself to it.

Did Verge specifically sign off on the other two characters as well though? Since I don't see his original post in the linked thread, I wasn't clear on that.

I very much really disagree with that. I think that you havent really known how WayForward has been in the past. We talked quite a bit about them and how they've been with fans. I dont think it would fit with their profile. They themselves went on board to push shantae for smash because of the fans. They also saw how much people wanted her in this smash cycle too, very strongly. They know it's important to us, and no 'courtesy' to nintendo would make them suddenly turn a blind eye to them/us. If they did, I would lose respect for them, because they'd be choosing something unnecessary in terms of business over what really matters--their fanbase (which are customers, too). They were silent because of an nda. And now, if they dont have to be, they should speak. There might still be one (which would be good news), or there might be another reason that we dont know yet.
I hear what you're saying, but WayForward is still a business, and as such they aren't in a position to value unfiltered communication with the fans over their relations with important corporate partners like Nintendo. Even if you don't agree with me on that though, the fact is we don't know anything about what might be going on behind the scenes. For instance, the terms of Shantae's appearance as a Spirit in Smash might include that WayForward is not to disclose publicly any details of the negotiation. Or, it's possible that WayForward has some company policies about how they interact with fans, which permits them to be very open and informal about some topics, but not others (like dealings with other companies). Both of those scenarios could explain their silence on the subject without indicating anything about Shantae's status as a DLC contender.
 

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Can you guys actually see Shantae's spirit unlock challenge ( with Samus, killing edge ect. ) get replaced with her actual self later ? If they intended to make her playable all along, wouldn't they just not do anything about her in the first place and keep it for DLC ? We don't even know if the DLC characters have been chosen alrdeay ...

EDIT : I'm done overthinking for now xD the game will be awesom anyway and the war is luckily not quite over yet for us ! :D
As far as I know, most (if not all) fighters use spirits that aren't quite their own.
 

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I think I read somewhere that Bethesda has been in contact with Sakurai over potential DLC so a Bethesda character like Doomguy or Vault Boy would account for the one remaining DLC spot.
Right... doomguys seems a bit much for smash, but it is a gameing icon. Personally i want reimu from touhou as that last spot but hopes are low for her.

Yeah. They talked about mii fighter outfits but not saying where they're purchasable or if they're free. So my guess is that there'll be other dlc besides these sets. Verge did say there's minecraft content, but it could also be a set with a mii fighter or something (something mentioned before, mightve even been you).
Katrina would be cool, though i dont know anything about the person who claimed her.

I would hope they prioritize some more ballot picks. And if they did plan dlc way before, which it seems they couldve done, then it'd give more explanation for an nda, and why it's been this long. Im not saying they couldnt have contacted WF for a spirit appearnce so long in advance, but what makes more sense?



I really doubt it.
Right the minecraft content could be a steve mii fighter, totally forgot that option, and is more likely. I am sure we will get mii fighter costumes over time for sure.

Katarina is one of the main charactes from the Granblue game. You could say she is the main hero other then your own olayer character, like elma is for xenoblade x. She is a sword fighter but has unique skills amd could include the games summoning system

I could say maybe sakurai had the base roster planned, but was already picking his dlc choices. He wanted to get shantae as a spirit to drum up knowledge of her for the people who didn't play her games
 

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Ugh what a gross leak. I really do not want Steve, Eldrick from Dragon Quest has absolutely no appeal for me, and then a generic anime-looking character from a random gacha phone game? I already pre-purchased the season pass because I couldn't imagine not wanting every available Smash character, but if we're starting with a trio like that, I might regret my purchase.

Sadly, Vergeben's record on Smash stuff is quite strong now, so whatever portion of this he's backing up is probably real.

Browsing the thread, it seems that Verge is very sure of Steve, so as much as it pains me to say it, I think Steve is happening. Guess I better start resigning myself to it.

Did Verge specifically sign off on the other two characters as well though? Since I don't see his original post in the linked thread, I wasn't clear on that.


I hear what you're saying, but WayForward is still a business, and as such they aren't in a position to value unfiltered communication with the fans over their relations with important corporate partners like Nintendo. Even if you don't agree with me on that though, the fact is we don't know anything about what might be going on behind the scenes. For instance, the terms of Shantae's appearance as a Spirit in Smash might include that WayForward is not to disclose publicly any details of the negotiation. Or, it's possible that WayForward has some company policies about how they interact with fans, which permits them to be very open and informal about some topics, but not others (like dealings with other companies). Both of those scenarios could explain their silence on the subject without indicating anything about Shantae's status as a DLC contender.
Yeh I dont agree. Like I said, the way theyve been with fans before doesnt line up with any policies like that. But it's fine if you want to explore those possibilities. I dont think that partnering more with a business would be a reason to not talk about something like her chances for dlc when they talk about the spirit stuff now. There's either still an nda or there's something that's hard to understand. And yeh, we dont really know for now.
 
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Who is that Katalina character and what is she from?
This is Katalina.

https://gbf.wiki/Katalina#Base Art

She is the main character from the Granblue games. She is a swordwomen who also has water and ice attacks. Also, Platinum games is make a granblue game with her as the lead. You can see some of her fighting style here.


While she isn't super flashy Granblue is a very big game in japan and has been for years.

I could see a Fornite character being added as well, based on the game's enormous success :facepalm:
That is recent succsess and most likely will die soon :p Granblue has been around for 6 years now I beleive and still a huge money maker in japan.
 

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Who is that Katalina character and what is she from?
It's big enough that there was an anime of Granblue Fantasy, and there's this new game coming out and Katalina is prominently featured in it for this one, looks like. trailer for the new one:


zferolie said enough first :p
She's wasnt really 'the' main character before tho. Just one of them.
 
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Yeah which is why I knew the moment I asked the question to Matt and WayForward "Why is her artwork mirrored?" I get total silence. I was not even talking about potential DLC but just what was shown.
I got the same thing when asking about DLC. Pure silence.
 

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This is Katalina.

https://gbf.wiki/Katalina#Base Art

She is the main character from the Granblue games. She is a swordwomen who also has water and ice attacks. Also, Platinum games is make a granblue game with her as the lead. You can see some of her fighting style here.


While she isn't super flashy Granblue is a very big game in japan and has been for years.



That is recent succsess and most likely will die soon :p Granblue has been around for 6 years now I beleive and still a huge money maker in japan.

One problem I can see regarding Katalina is that Granblue was never on a Nintendo platform. The closest thing is that Cygames and Nintendo worked together on Dragalia lost. At least Cloud was still in kingdom hearts. .
 

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All we can do now is discuss, share the Shantae love and hope
Man what an emotional rollercoaster these last months have been ! This story ended in a tragedy for many people while our flame is still not quite dead yet.
Now let's just enjoy this amazing game together and wait for first the DLC reveals ( which should not take tooo long since they said that they were sorry for not showing the season pass' content yet ).
 

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It's big enough that there was an anime of Granblue Fantasy, and there's this new game coming out and Katalina is prominently featured in it for this one, looks like. trailer for the new one:


zferolie said enough first :p
She's wasnt really 'the' main character before tho. Just one of them.
I would argue shes the face of the series really. Yeah shes not the main, but she joins right at the start, and seems to get a lot of promotional art and is tied to the story

One problem I can see regarding Katalina is that Granblue was never on a Nintendo platform. The closest thing is that Cygames and Nintendo worked together on Dragalia lost. At least Cloud was still in kingdom hearts. .
That is the biggest downside yes, but you could argye since Nintendo owns a bunch of stock in the company they could do what they want.

Wait, you're talking about Granblue Fantasy? Cool. :)
I don't play it nearly as much as I should. I wanna mak an all Draph team because those cowgirls are sexy. But, I play too much Fate GO.
 

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I would argue shes the face of the series really. Yeah shes not the main, but she joins right at the start, and seems to get a lot of promotional art and is tied to the story



That is the biggest downside yes, but you could argye since Nintendo owns a bunch of stock in the company they could do what they want.



I don't play it nearly as much as I should. I wanna mak an all Draph team because those cowgirls are sexy. But, I play too much Fate GO.
They only own 5% and apparently that was to facilitate work on dragalia.

Im not saying it's not possible, it's definitely a big enough thing in japan that nintendo could want to do something with it. I just think it's hard to say there's enough going for it yet. I'd love for her to be in though :)
 

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This is Katalina.

https://gbf.wiki/Katalina#Base Art

She is the main character from the Granblue games. She is a swordwomen who also has water and ice attacks. Also, Platinum games is make a granblue game with her as the lead. You can see some of her fighting style here.


While she isn't super flashy Granblue is a very big game in japan and has been for years.



That is recent succsess and most likely will die soon :p Granblue has been around for 6 years now I beleive and still a huge money maker in japan.
EDIT: WHAT HAPPENED TO MY POST?! :(
 
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Looking a little more closely at that thread, it sounds like Vergeben himself hasn't had explicit confirmation that the Minecraft representation includes a playable character, but rather another leaker whom he considers trustworthy said it, and he considers it likely. Maybe I should just assume Steve is in so that I don't get disappointed to see him later. Also, looks like Vergeben himself said a Square Enix rep is definitely happening, but didn't name any in particular. Finally, it was the other leaker who claimed to know CyGames was in serious negotiation about a Granblue Fantasy character joining, and Vergeben trusts him on that.

So perhaps this leak doesn't have quite as much credibility as direct confirmation from Vergeben would carry. I think we should brace ourselves for the possibility of a pretty disappointing DLC season all the same. Something about the possibility of a mobile gacha game character joining really rubs me the wrong way, maybe even worse than Steve.
 
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Looking a little more closely at that thread, it sounds like Vergeben himself hasn't had explicit confirmation that the Minecraft representation includes a playable character, but rather another leaker whom he considers trustworthy said it, and he considers it likely. Maybe I should just assume Steve is in so that I don't get disappointed to see him later. Also, looks like Vergeben himself said a Square Enix rep is definitely happening, but didn't name any in particular. Finally, it was the other leaker who claimed to know CyGames was in serious negotiation about a Granblue Fantasy character joining, and Vergeben trusts him on that.

So perhaps this leak doesn't have quite as much credibility as direct confirmation from Vergeben would carry. I think we should brace ourselves for the possibility of a pretty disappointing DLC season all the same. Something about the possibility of a mobile gacha game character joining really rubs me the wrong way, maybe even worse than Steve.
Yeh I think it's fine to be open to the possibility.
But I know it's not right for me to think that way, and that I'll be open to a greater for dlc :)
(and if it isn't, I'll face my disappointments again if I have any)

The new Granblue is a serious action rpg on the ps4 though. And if it gets ported to the switch eventually too, it's much more than just a mobile game.
 
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They only own 5% and apparently that was to facilitate work on dragalia.

Im not saying it's not possible, it's definitely a big enough thing in japan that nintendo could want to do something with it. I just think it's hard to say there's enough going for it yet. I'd love for her to be in though :)
True. We honestly can't say anything is a real sure thing other then the SE rep. She would be fun though, another female fighter.

Looking a little more closely at that thread, it sounds like Vergeben himself hasn't had explicit confirmation that the Minecraft representation includes a playable character, but rather another leaker whom he considers trustworthy said it, he considers it likely. Maybe I should just assume Steve is in so that I don't get disappointed to see him later. Also, looks like Vergeben himself said a Square Enix rep is definitely happening but didn't name any in particular. Finally, it was the other leaker who claimed to know CyGames was in serious negotiation about a Granblue Fantasy character joining, and Vergeben trusts him on that.

So perhaps this leak doesn't have quite as much credibility as direct confirmation from Vergeben would carry. I think we should brace ourselves for the possibility of a pretty disappointing DLC season all the same. Something about the possibility of a mobile gacha game character joining really rubs me the wrong way, maybe even worse than Steve.
Yeah, that thread I don't think is a direct leak, just guesses based on vergeben and the other rep.

I'll still assume Steve is a Mii Fighter for sword style for now. Makes sense. And maybe its a very unique mii outfit where it looks nearly like Minecraft Steve, as his polys are so low. Thats the route I am going for till shown otherwise. I think all steve should get is a Mii Outfit.

Not all Mobile gatcha games are evil. Fate GO is a ton of fun. yes I spent way too much money in it but the story is great. I hear the same thing about Granblue(only on chapter 2 myself)
 

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I would hold off on reading into WF's silence until after the game is released. While her spirit was shown Nintendo may wish for them to still hold off on talks about the game to prevent leaking anything on accident. I think this would include disconfirming her as DLC considering every character that is confirmed to not be DLC narrows down who CAN be DLC. If WF wants to keep a good relationship they probably don't want to step on any toes until things have all calmed down.
 
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