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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Yeah, thats what I was thinking when I was designing her. She is a pokemon champion, a true pokemon master. She should be able to be one with her pokemon, and use them in ways a normal trainer like red could not.
Yeah, exactly! And like I said, Red in Smash appears to be based on his days as a Trainer rather than a Gym Leader, so him doing what you suggested for Cynthia wouldn't really work in that context, allowing her to be all that more unique within the cast.

I can make it once I finish my moveset ideas, I’ll be sure to include yours as well
Could you send me the link once you're done please?
 

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Yeah, exactly! And like I said, Red in Smash appears to be based on his days as a Trainer rather than a Gym Leader, so him doing what you suggested for Cynthia wouldn't really work in that context, allowing her to be all that more unique within the cast.



Could you send me the link once you're done please?
Red's never been a Gym Leader.
 
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Hey I had a theory......Before simons reveal the music track was a other section track so since the island music is from the other section it means we’re getting a new series and since the track was afternoon on the island it could possbily relate to shantae. Everybody with me?
 

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Basically with any art you have to keep at it until you get better and better. The more passion you have, the easier it is, especially when you don't mind making mistakes and improving, little by little (or bigger).

I love seeing visual art and what people can do, it's amazing sometimes. I'm not very good myself but I know it's that I haven't really tried to get better at it, so that's the major factor :p

I myself just did a cinematic all gang up with ending with a Mega Garchomp Outrage. I also changed Sky Attack slightly. Now it goes Sonic's spring height up, and then Cynthia leaps off before the Togekiss dive bombs a direction. This way its not an insane recovery as before cynthia could ride the dive bombing Togekiss. Plus now she can use it from far off, make the Togekiss dive bomb, and maybe get enough as the Togekiss returns.
I was wondering how a trainer could fight her self and use multiple pokemon in the battle, but then I thought maybe there could be a small fast animation of the pokemon coming out of a pokemon to do the attack. It sounds tricky to pull off, but if it could be done well, I'd love to see a trainer (cynthia or else) be the actual battler and use the pokemon so masterfully. :)
Is it a bit like that you had in mind?

If it's not done super well I think I'd just prefer another one like pkm trainer, with Milotic, Garchomp, and I dont know who should be the third one, unless it'd just be 2, that could work too.
 
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Basically with any art you have to keep at it until you get better and better. The more passion you have, the easier it is, especially when you don't mind making mistakes and improving, little by little (or bigger).

I love seeing visual art and what people can do, it's amazing sometimes. I'm not very good myself but I know it's that I haven't really tried to get better at it, so that's the major factor :p
Hey mom! :D

I thought you'd be pretty good at art actually. Though, sure, I believe you.
 

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Basically with any art you have to keep at it until you get better and better. The more passion you have, the easier it is, especially when you don't mind making mistakes and improving, little by little (or bigger).

I love seeing visual art and what people can do, it's amazing sometimes. I'm not very good myself but I know it's that I haven't really tried to get better at it, so that's the major factor :p



I was wondering how a trainer could fight her self and use multiple pokemon in the battle, but then I thought maybe there could be a small fast animation of the pokemon coming out of a pokemon to do the attack. It sounds tricky to pull off, but if it could be done well, I'd love to see a trainer (cynthia or else) be the actual battler and use the pokemon so masterfully. :)
Is it a bit like that you had in mind?

If it's not done super well I think I'd just prefer another one like pkm trainer, with Milotic, Garchomp, and I dont know who should be the third one, unless it'd just be 2, that could work too.
That at the end what I’m working on for Cynthia right now, (I have Spiritomb for her third, but in case it’d be too difficult to animate it and Milotic, I’m working on movesets for Roserade and Togekiss as well)
 

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That at the end what I’m working on for Cynthia right now, (I have Spiritomb for her third, but in case it’d be too difficult to animate it and Milotic, I’m working on movesets for Roserade and Togekiss as well)
Ohh, if it's like pkm trainer then I'd love Roserade :):)
Togekiss would float above ground so it'd be a bit awkward wouldn't it? Spiritomb wouldn't work well either, I think. not much moving there.
 
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Ohh, if it's like pkm trainer then I'd love Roserade :):)
Togekiss would float above ground so it'd be a bit awkward wouldn't it? Spiritomb wouldn't work well either, I think. not much moving there.
Yeah even if I make him low flying, there might be a few more problems with Togekiss, but I think I can make Spiritomb work if I get a little creative
 

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Yeah even if I make him low flying, there might be a few more problems with Togekiss, but I think I can make Spiritomb work if I get a little creative
Well, spiritomb would just be a floating thing too, and with less expressivity than togekiss. Always the same shape, no arms or legs or anything, it seems boring when I try to imagine it as a fighter now.
I think Roserade would work best, but you can try to convince me otherwise :p
 

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Yeah, exactly! And like I said, Red in Smash appears to be based on his days as a Trainer rather than a Gym Leader, so him doing what you suggested for Cynthia wouldn't really work in that context, allowing her to be all that more unique within the cast.



Could you send me the link once you're done please?
Indeed. I don't think she should be just another pokemon trainer, but thats just me.

Basically with any art you have to keep at it until you get better and better. The more passion you have, the easier it is, especially when you don't mind making mistakes and improving, little by little (or bigger).

I love seeing visual art and what people can do, it's amazing sometimes. I'm not very good myself but I know it's that I haven't really tried to get better at it, so that's the major factor :p



I was wondering how a trainer could fight her self and use multiple pokemon in the battle, but then I thought maybe there could be a small fast animation of the pokemon coming out of a pokemon to do the attack. It sounds tricky to pull off, but if it could be done well, I'd love to see a trainer (cynthia or else) be the actual battler and use the pokemon so masterfully. :)
Is it a bit like that you had in mind?

If it's not done super well I think I'd just prefer another one like pkm trainer, with Milotic, Garchomp, and I dont know who should be the third one, unless it'd just be 2, that could work too.
Yeah it would be difficult to pull off. I was thinking it could be they come out of the pokeballs fast in time with her hand actions, like tshe and her team are so connected due to their many years together they are able to respond that fast.
 

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Indeed. I don't think she should be just another pokemon trainer, but thats just me.



Yeah it would be difficult to pull off. I was thinking it could be they come out of the pokeballs fast in time with her hand actions, like tshe and her team are so connected due to their many years together they are able to respond that fast.
I already thought of that for psychic pokemon, but as an expert trainer, I think it could work too. If it's done well I'm all for it. I wouldn't mind her fighting too, at least for the quickest hits.

I'd love to fight with milotic and roserade too, so I'm far from against the regular trainer idea.
 
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All right, this Pokémon talk has been pleasant (Mostly because the Let's Go duology comes next month), but let's focus a little bit.

I'd agree on Shantae having a magic system that can be interchanged with her taunts. If you've stored enough magic by fighting (Henceforth making this gimmick a super meter of sorts), you can "bet" magic so that Shantae will transform into a chosen form for a handful of seconds.
  1. Monkey (Right): Horribly frail overall but really nimble. Attack is Monkey Claw, and Special is Monkey Bullet.
  2. Harpy (Up): Slower than Monkey form, but almost unlimited air movement. Attack and jump commands do the same thing (Flying), whereas Special makes Shantae use Harpy Talon while divebombing (Meteor smash potential, by the by).
  3. Elephant (Left): Heavy and slow, but nigh invinicible if you're not launched. Attack and Special commands both make her Charge, whereas she'll Stomp around if you try to jump.
  4. Spider (Down): Grapple-reliant to a fault. Attack bites, and Special launches a Spider Web that prefers to target foes, but can serve as a tether as well.
I'd personally imagine Shantae's special moves, at that rate, would be Flamethrower (Neutral), Storm Puff (Side), Float Muffin (Up), and Mermaid Bubble (Down). That last one would trap opponents in a bubble for about three seconds, after which anyone stuck in the bubble gets sent into helpless falling. Aside from if Shantae hits the bubble, of course. Then they'd all scatter off in the direction she tried to launch the bubble.
 

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Well, spiritomb would just be a floating thing too, and with less expressivity than togekiss. Always the same shape, no arms or legs or anything, it seems boring when I try to imagine it as a fighter now.
I think Roserade would work best, but you can try to convince me otherwise :p
Spiritomb doesn’t really float, at least no more than Mewtwo. She’s a ghost-dark type so I could see her using a bunch of ethereal looking moves and maneuvers and if you look at it in the later 3D games, Spiritomb has a lot more expression and movement than you think. My insistence on Spiritomb is because like Garchomp and Lucario its always on her team
 

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Spiritomb doesn’t really float, at least no more than Mewtwo. She’s a ghost-dark type so I could see her using a bunch of ethereal looking moves and maneuvers and if you look at it in the later 3D games, Spiritomb has a lot more expression and movement than you think. My insistence on Spiritomb is because like Garchomp and Lucario its always on her team
I'm glad to see your opinion. I think it makes sense (since it's on the team), but I disagree on the expressive part. But let's continue the discussion once the thread is up :)

back to shantae :)
(maybe)
 

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Hey, um...is this a new video? Cause the thumbnail looks exactly the same as every other video I've seen from this guy.
He uses the same text in the thumbnails just changes out the characters.

That being said those characters look like terrible fake leaker choices for sure.
 

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Another fake leak?
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Don’t listen to their words of tomfoolery.
You post more Alice in Wonderland gifs, than I do posts expressing my love for Rottytops.

He uses the same text in the thumbnails just changes out the characters.

That being said those characters look like terrible fake leaker choices for sure.
What is the classic Donkey Kong doing in the thumbnail anyway? Cranky for Smash?
 

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You post more Alice in Wonderland gifs, than I do posts expressing my love for Rottytops.


What is the classic Donkey Kong doing in the thumbnail anyway? Cranky for Smash?
Classic donkey kong (and jr.) is one of the leaked characters. Which automatically makes the leak go in the dumps, and makes the youtuber look ... I dont want to say dumb, but i cant think of a nicer word right now (let's just say I wont be watching his videos) :o

Also, you should express your love of rottytops more then.
 
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I'm glad to see your opinion. I think it makes sense (since it's on the team), but I disagree on the expressive part. But let's continue the discussion once the thread is up :)

back to shantae :)
(maybe)
Just look up any footage of Spiritomb in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire or Sun & Moon in the meantime, but yeah back to Shantae,

You post more Alice in Wonderland gifs, than I do posts expressing my love for Rottytops.


What is the classic Donkey Kong doing in the thumbnail anyway? Cranky for Smash?
I still think Cranky would make a good assist trophy
 

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Just look up any footage of Spiritomb in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire or Sun & Moon in the meantime, but yeah back to Shantae,



I still think Cranky would make a good assist trophy
Already did.. I mean expressiveness as a fighter, not with the face emotions. I'll go more into detail once the thread is up.

In a way the Cynthia talk reminds me of the debate with shantae too, as to whether to use whole transformations or just have attacks with them.
Well except that Shantae's wouldn't have many attacks. (but there'd be more transformations)
 
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Fake leaks are becoming boring...
Leakers are becoming boring...
Discussion is stuck on repeat...

I know that there was a massive slow down, and we should expect something coming soon. But man...I'm bored. Just a bunch of toxicity everywhere (which is strangely boring now), and the community just kinda accepted it at this point...

I love ya guys, but I'm bored...
 
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Fake leaks are becoming boring...
Leakers are becoming boring...
Discussion is stuck on repeat...

I know that there was a massive slow down, and we should expect something coming soon. But man...I'm bored. Just a bunch of toxicity everywhere (which is strangelt boring now), and the community just kinda accepted it at this point...

I love ya guys, but I'm bored...
I was thinking of taking a break from this thread, or just posting more infrequently.

I need to rest more.
 
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Fake leaks are becoming boring...
Leakers are becoming boring...
Discussion is stuck on repeat...

I know that there was a massive slow down, and we should expect something coming soon. But man...I'm bored. Just a bunch of toxicity everywhere (which is strangely boring now), and the community just kinda accepted it at this point...

I love ya guys, but I'm bored...
That’s the whole reason I’ve been doing Alice in Wonderland gifs.

Sadly I’ve run dry on the good ones so uh... I have no idea. Maybe I should find gifs of something else for a while.
 

Teeb147

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If you're bored then do or find something interesting ;)

Also, the next direct is sure to shake some things up. It could be soon, though any time in october would be good enough for me..
:)
 

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Alright, I just figured up a meme idea for a fighter.
Nothing's going on, Shadow Moses is quiet as Snake sneaks in, then suddenly:
This plays as a plastic green man just fires gung ho, with a slogan that just says "Sarge's here for a party time!"
Again, it's just a meme and not serious. XD
I can't believe there's no leaks considering this guy, all things considering, though I guest Snake fills that quota. Plus, no shantae no entry, you dipstick of a plastic action figure
 
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