Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[MagusOfIllusions]

I'll keep Dylly in my prayers tonight, Hope he gets well soon.

 

[Confirmation]

I can't double post in Isaac thread but I've been lurking here so uh hi. Important news?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77007598

Corocoro scan apparently says 108 stages? It's good news for all us new franchise smash hopefuls!

Also, I'm kind of surprised at Dylly's anxiety about their perception in the thread. I always thought they were the Pwnapplez of Shantae, meaning imo they're kinda like the face / poster child of the thread in my mind. I really hope he gets better, and what I've heard makes me kinda worried for him.

 

[Deleted member]

I can't double post in Isaac thread but I've been lurking here so uh hi. Important news?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77007598

Corocoro scan apparently says 108 stages? It's good news for all us new franchise smash hopefuls!

Also, I'm kind of surprised at Dylly's anxiety about their perception in the thread. I always thought they were the Pwnapplez of Shantae, meaning imo they're kinda like the face / poster child of the thread in my mind. I really hope he gets better, and what I've heard makes me kinda worried for him.

Well thanks for the info!, and thanks, for the support of Dylly!

 

[LunarLiv]

I hope everything turns out ok for Dylly. Also it's interesting to note that 108 is that buddhist number that pops up a lot, and I just thought that was interesting. But if we got 4 newcomers with their own stages, that'd be great! Hopefully Shantae would be one of them

Hopefully that's true, I can't read Japanese so I have no idea what it actually says, but if it is it should give some people a bit of hope!

 

[Shark X]

Rainbow Road and Pacman Maze better be two of those stages...

 

[Shinuto]

Rainbow Road and Pacman Maze better be two of those stages...

Yeah seriously, the Smash team is utterly stupid if they keep ******* PAC-LAND over Pc-maze, and dont give me that "b-but Shin, it might have to do with them not being able to make it's unique mechanic work on non 3DS." I don't care about that, I just want the maze aesthetic over MS Paint Land.

 

[LunarLiv]

Yeah seriously, the Smash team is utterly stupid if they keep ******* PAC-LAND over Pc-maze, and dont give me that "b-but Shin, it might have to do with them not being able to make it's unique mechanic work on non 3DS." I don't care about that, I just want the maze aesthetic over MS Paint Land.

I agree with that. Pac Land is a very visually unappealing stage. Pac Maze would be a little cooler.

Anywaay, it gives me hopes for a Shantae stage! Maybe it's in those 5 stages. Who knows!

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

I had something prepared because I thought it was about suicide but I guess that's not it. Well, I'll post it anyway.

I am one of few words, so instead of a paragraph, take these words from Celica: https://youtu.be/lVarjrWU88Y?t=1m52s

 

[grizby2]

I can't double post in Isaac thread but I've been lurking here so uh hi. Important news?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77007598

Corocoro scan apparently says 108 stages? It's good news for all us new franchise smash hopefuls!

thank the LORD. something that Isn't a BOX!

im really hoping the last few stages aren't re-hashed past stages. considering it can take a whole year making a stage makes this a pretty big deal (for me at least)

 

[SoupCanMafia]

I hope everything turns out ok for Dylly. Also it's interesting to note that 108 is that buddhist number that pops up a lot, and I just thought that was interesting. But if we got 4 newcomers with their own stages, that'd be great! Hopefully Shantae would be one of them

Hopefully that's true, I can't read Japanese so I have no idea what it actually says, but if it is it should give some people a bit of hope!

Spoiler: Talking about leaks that may or may not be true

Hmm, 108 stages? Okay, I can actually get behind that number and this leak. It leaves us with the other 103 stages, alongside the newly revealed or leaked Rainbow Cruiser on Isabella's photograph. Let's go into the logistics of Smash Bros stages and what it means for the newcomers.

(current map pool that we almost certainly know is to be true)
Theoretically, with what the leak showcases, we have only five stages left. Now, I think it'll be unlikely with represented franchises who gains a newcomer will get an exclusive stage for their own use. For instance: Skull Kid's reveal would be semi unlikely to give us a stage dedicated to Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess, with the presence of Great Bay and Bridge of Elden. Should Incineroar be revealed, it would also be unlikely for a new Pokemon-based stage to be revealed alongside him. Geno may be a special case, though I'm not very certain about him getting a stage representing Mario RPG. Even Ken, as good as he is, is unlikely to get his own stage and may just share Ryu's stage. With the likes of Isaac and Shantae, however, they may get their own unique stages! Or if you really wanna go overboard, Banjo could get his own stage!
However, it can also be pretty likely that they will find some stages to revamp and add back into the pool. Most likely stages seem to be relative "simple" ones to bring back, like MK7's Rainbow Road, among others I don't know about yet. But with what we know, there's definitely going to be a newcomer-inspired new stage, as well as a certainty for a "veteran" stage to return into the fold.

Also, jesus that uruk scream, that's beautiful!

 

[Confirmation]

Isaac thread has more treats!
http://dotup.org/uploda/dotup.org1643534.jpg

 

[Shinuto]

Rainbow Road and Pacman Maze better be two of those stages...

Yeah seriously, the Smash team is utterly stupid if they keep ******* PAC-LAND over Pc-maze, and dont give me that "b-but Shin, it might have to do with them not being able to make it's unique mechanic work on non 3DS." I don't care about that, I just want the maze aesthetic over MS Paint Land.

 

[NukeA6]

Isaac thread has more treats!
http://dotup.org/uploda/dotup.org1643534.jpg

Anyone worried about the box theory can shut up now because I doubt these last 5 are gonna be reserved for two characters.

 

[LunarLiv]

I thought the thing in that Isabelle screenshot was just Rainbow Ride from Melee. That's less of a leak or anything 'cause it was already on the Smash website before Isabelle was revealed.

 

[NukeA6]

I thought the thing in that Isabelle screenshot was just Rainbow Ride from Melee. That's less of a leak or anything 'cause it was already on the Smash website before Isabelle was revealed.

Rainbow Road is a Mario Kart stage.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Isaac thread has more treats!
http://dotup.org/uploda/dotup.org1643534.jpg

Interesting, they've now implimented the Random functionality, and separated the maps into an 11x10 grid. So it may seem to fit the DLC option as well as these five new maps! But yeah, I see there's absolutely nothing wrong with this screencap and can conclude that this is, indeed, a legitimate leak!
Unless it was photoshop magic, but even then, the likelihood is low to me.

 

[loozer2]

Some interesting and potentially good news for once, guys! In the new issue of a Japanese gaming magazine CoroCoro they had an exclusive article covering Smash Bros where they confirmed that the total number of stages in the final base roster is 108. That means there's 5 new or returning stages we don't know about yet.

 

[Wademan94]

Rainbow Road is a Mario Kart stage.

No, he’s talking about Rainbow Cruise from Melee, the stage with the flying ship

 

[LunarLiv]

Rainbow Road is a Mario Kart stage.

I meant Rainbow Ride, or cruise or whatever

This one, it's based off of the stage "Rainbow Ride" in Mario 64

 

[NukeA6]

NEVERMIND......

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

I hope Dylly will be okay ;-;

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

Spoiler: Talking about leaks that may or may not be true

Hmm, 108 stages? Okay, I can actually get behind that number and this leak. It leaves us with the other 103 stages, alongside the newly revealed or leaked Rainbow Cruiser on Isabella's photograph. Let's go into the logistics of Smash Bros stages and what it means for the newcomers.

(current map pool that we almost certainly know is to be true)
Theoretically, with what the leak showcases, we have only five stages left. Now, I think it'll be unlikely with represented franchises who gains a newcomer will get an exclusive stage for their own use. For instance: Skull Kid's reveal would be semi unlikely to give us a stage dedicated to Majora's Mask or Twilight Princess, with the presence of Great Bay and Bridge of Elden. Should Incineroar be revealed, it would also be unlikely for a new Pokemon-based stage to be revealed alongside him. Geno may be a special case, though I'm not very certain about him getting a stage representing Mario RPG. Even Ken, as good as he is, is unlikely to get his own stage and may just share Ryu's stage. With the likes of Isaac and Shantae, however, they may get their own unique stages! Or if you really wanna go overboard, Banjo could get his own stage!
However, it can also be pretty likely that they will find some stages to revamp and add back into the pool. Most likely stages seem to be relative "simple" ones to bring back, like MK7's Rainbow Road, among others I don't know about yet. But with what we know, there's definitely going to be a newcomer-inspired new stage, as well as a certainty for a "veteran" stage to return into the fold.

Also, jesus that uruk scream, that's beautiful!

Rainbow Cruise was already revealed from the Aug Direct. I just didn't realize what stage it was when I saw that Isabelle Photo.

Do we know that the CoroCoro issue's real and not just a mock-up; I'm remaining skeptical about it until it's proven real.

I hope Dylly will be okay ;-;

Everyone keep him in your prayers please.

 

[TheRandomCities4]

5 more stages? That's wonderful news! I feel like the proverbial nooses have loosened around our necks a little bit when it comes to speculation.

It seems this next smash direct is gonna be real good.

Also, if that's next month's issue of the magazine, does that mean we're getting the Smash direct much sooner than we may realize? Like end of this month or early next month?

 

[Shadow Novus]

CoroCoro issue is legit

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Hold on to your butts everyone, we're still on Sakurai's wild ride!

 

[Teeb147]

Glad some news at least brought a bit of hope back.

Tonight was a bit hard on me, but I'm calmer now though I guess I was wrong in thinking something wouldn't be able to bring me down. Good job world. I didn't think I cared for the wellbeing of someone I just met here, but I guess I do, and I'm trying my best to keep my composure, I shouldn't be that affected by what's going on in someone else's life, right? I dunno.

I don't even care about shantae right now lol. ahh. Sorry, just wanted to say my feelings a bit.
Let's see if things seem better and clearer tomorow. and thanks all.

 

[Deleted member]

Good night everyone I hope dylly recovers I don’t want him to suffer it really has been hard for us all from a couple of pages

 

[LaBeteNoire]

Glad some news at least brought a bit of hope back.

Tonight was a bit hard on me, but I'm calmer now though I guess I was wrong in thinking something wouldn't be able to bring me down. Good job world. I didn't think I cared for the wellbeing of someone I just met here, but I guess I do, and I'm trying my best to keep my composure, I shouldn't be that affected by what's going on in someone else's life, right? I dunno.

I don't even care about shantae right now lol. ahh. Sorry, just wanted to say my feelings a bit.
Let's see if things seem better and clearer tomorow. and thanks all.

I think overall, that's good thing. Compassion is one of the easiest parts of the human condition to loose touch with, because it so often is easier not to care about others.

You should take heart in the fact that you were able to care so deeply about someone you don't even really know. It's a testament to the kind of person you are, a good person.

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

It wouldn't make sense for all 5 of those stages to be returning stages, since Sakurai made it a point to show off almost every returning stage in Ultimate. The closest I can see us getting to a returning stage is Poke Floats 2, which would basically be the same as the original, but take gens 3-7 into account. Then there's new stages from existing franchises: While very possible for some new stages to be from existing franchises, I feel that said stages would be tied to newcomers, since there's no good reason for them to be withheld otherwise. Even if there was a new Pokemon rep, there's a chance that they could forego an Alolan stage in favor of Poke Floats 2.

Hopefully this would leave enough legroom for Scuttle Town.

Edit: I forgot to mention a potential Minecraft stage, as leaked by Vergeben, but that and Pokefloats 2 would still leave 3 more stages.

 

[kevinthedot]

5 more stages? That's wonderful news! I feel like the proverbial nooses have loosened around our necks a little bit when it comes to speculation.

It seems this next smash direct is gonna be real good.

Also, if that's next month's issue of the magazine, does that mean we're getting the Smash direct much sooner than we may realize? Like end of this month or early next month?

Yeah, there being so many more stages makes it even more likely that we still got a lot of newcomers left. I'm still pushing and believing the Smash blog theory that there's 7-8 more fighters left.

 

[AngrySun88]

Those past few pages were eventful. I hope everyone's alright.

And I'm glad we got some positive news for a change with this stage leak that's actually a credible leak for once. I had a feeling that 103 wasn't the final number of stages. This gives me more confidence to say that the box theory is bunk and I think we're for sure getting more than two more characters.

Hopefully one of those new stages is Scuttle Town or another Shantae stage.

 

[kevinthedot]

Hopefully one of those new stages is Scuttle Town or another Shantae stage.

2 words.
GIGA. MERMAID.

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

Dumb question: What are the chances that the 108 part was a typo? The Famitsu article still says 103.

 

[Shadowknight1]

2 words.
GIGA. MERMAID.

Risky's Ship? Goes by Scuttle Town AND can have Giga Mermaid in the background?

 

[Shark X]

2 words.
GIGA. MERMAID.

Hate the stage...but REALLY want this in the background...and maybe as a stage boss...

 

[LaBeteNoire]

2 words.
GIGA. MERMAID.

Ok, that would be a really cool stage. Lots of platforms to use, attacks from the Giga Mermaid to avoid, and possibly a mechanic where her locks can be broken and whoever breaks the final lock will be immune from a final attack she unleashes.

However if Shantae only get's one stage it's not terribly iconic to her series as a whole. My vote would still go to the bay with her lighthouse and bridge.

 

[Shark X]

Dumb question: What are the chances that the 108 part was a typo? The Famitsu article still says 103.

Well Famitsu may have been talking about the number confirmed, or the other magazine might have been counting training stages and boss stages. So who knows.

 

[Shark X]

Ok, that would be a really cool stage. Lots of platforms to use, attacks from the Giga Mermaid to avoid, and possibly a mechanic where her locks can be broken and whoever breaks the final lock will be immune from a final attack she unleashes.

However if Shantae only get's one stage it's not terribly iconic to her series as a whole. My vote would still go to the bay with her lighthouse and bridge.

Two problems with that. Already an existing stage in Smash 5 that reminds me of that, and if Issac gets in, people expect him to get some sort of lighthouse stage as the only location people seem to talk about as an Issac stage.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Dumb question: What are the chances that the 108 part was a typo? The Famitsu article still says 103.

It's not a typo, my friend. It comes from Corocoro, one of the few reliable information resources when it comes to stuff like this, with years of Pokemon and Smash Bros information to back its reputation up and for good reason.

Well Famitsu may have been talking about the number confirmed, or the other magazine might have been counting training stages and boss stages. So who knows.

I would find that to be sort of unlikely. Though it'll likely have to relate to whether Spirits is a Subspace Emissary game or an Adventure Mode game, or even a combo of the two in some fashion. Because as of right now, there are 103 fightable stages, one stage exclusive to training mode, and two "boss arena" stages so far. That only adds up to 106 if we really were counting them.

 

[grizby2]

maybe im blind, but I noticed a few stages are missing.
orbital gate assult----MIA
ice mountain----------MIA
PAC-MAZE------------MIA
flat zone --------------is now flatzone x
miiverse---------------MIA (discontinued)
poke floats------------MIA (possible remake?)

I can see them never touching the first four again (cant say I ever enjoyed the first three, can't give an opinion on pac-maze personally since I played on wiiU)
and the miiverse stage is basically out of commission as far as I know.

the only one I see worth revisiting is pokefloats, since multiple generations have been released since its debut in melee, and would give sakurai the chance to represent all generations of pokemon currently (even gen 8?). this would also give the "incineroar is in the game" leaks credibility if incineroar is just something you fight on top of (technically in the game right?!) *waves hands sarcastically* "another one for the VERG-meister, king of ambiguity" >.>

so that leaves us with 4 possible new stages? that's incredible!

if we entertain the leak with an SE rep being in the game, then I can only think of a couple scenerios.
1. Geno is in the game and would still leave the 4 stages up to new comers from different series.
2. its not geno but is actually another FF rep and we still have 4 stages for newcomers.
3. we all got shim-sham'd and its some other Squre rep and theres 3 stages for newcomers.
4. we get a Minecraft stage, the square rep is geno or from FF and theres 3 stages for newcomers.
5. we get a Minecraft stage, the square rep is NOT geno or from FF and theres 2 stages for newcomers.
6. sakurai doesn't care and make 4 new Mario stages because hes a savant.


also, just thinking of this now. notable newcomers with no stage/series reps.
1. Shantae
2. Isacc
3. Banjo
4. Rayman
5. Crash

these are just some ideas, so don't take too much from it~

removing my tinfoil hat now.Embarrass

 

[loozer2]

Dumb question: What are the chances that the 108 part was a typo? The Famitsu article still says 103.

How recent is the Famitsu article you're talking about because this CoroCoro one just released. Unless they both came out at the same time I'd expect the Famitsu article was just giving the same information released during August.