Searching for a secondary

[Blad01]

Hello all !

I'm a Ganondorf and Falco mainer, and i'm searching a secondary in this moment...

I would like a character that i like and that can counter G&W, in priority. (The only match-up where i'm afraid of losing... ) And maybe ICs, but well, no-one can beat them... (Joke ^^).

I don't want to main SNake / Mk / Ice Climbers. (And i don't like Marth very much...)

> The characters i like but can't be this secondary :

- Link
- Fox
- Sheik
- Ness

> The characters i'm studying for being this secondary :

- R.O.B
- Donkey Kong

So yeah, which character would you recommand to me as a secondary for Falco ? Thanks

 

[Hawks go Caw]

I'd prefer R.O.B. over DK. He has two really good projectiles. His spotdodge > Dsmash is amazing. His recovery is infinitely better than DK's. And although R.O.B. doesn't kill very well, he makes up for it by being able to chase off the stage for a good edge guarding game.

 

[Blad01]

I'd prefer R.O.B. over DK. He has two really good projectiles. His spotdodge > Dsmash is amazing. His recovery is infinitely better than DK's. And although R.O.B. doesn't kill very well, he makes up for it by being able to chase off the stage for a good edge guarding game.

Yeah, but you know, ROB is pretty similar to Falco, but is more defensive...

I'm searching for a character who can counters effectively G&W, i'm not choosing a new main

 

[clowsui]

Counters GW? ROB is a good choice as a secondary. In all respects he is the ultimate counterpick for many characters, so when people go low tier on you just pick ROB; his assets pretty much murder everyone that has lower potential than Fox.

 

[Blad01]

his assets pretty much murder everyone that has lower potential than Fox.

So do Falco's ^^

 

[clowsui]

True, but ROB has a ridiculous spotdodge plus some outright broken moves (dsmash, upB, bair, fair, laser, gyro)

 

[AlCaTraz644]

I agree go with ROB i don't like neither of them but ROB is the better choice. YOU could just watch videos of two characters and find which one that fits your play style.

Even go so far as to find G&W worst or at least difficult match up and make your decision there.

 

[Blad01]

And apart hese two guys, which character would you recommend to me ?

Marth seems to have good match-ups against G&W and ICs...

 

[wasabicheese]

marth is the ultimate falco alt, but i find MK and ROB to be very effective as well.

 

[Deleted member]

Try actually playing as GaW. I find him to synergy really well with Falco in terms of counter picks and move set similarity. I semi-mained him for a while, hes not hard to pick up at all.

 

[AlCaTraz644]

And apart hese two guys, which character would you recommend to me ?

Marth seems to have good match-ups against G&W and ICs...

I thought you didn't want to play as marth,but if you do totally go for marth he has good range mixups, and also give good damage , fair gives him a good way to approach enemies so does dancing blades,and his nair. he just doesn't have a extremely good recovery.

THOUGH USING FAIR and dancing blades provides a good way to come the ledge.

 

[Seison]

I actually don't think it's worth picking up a character just to beat G&W, because I think Falco does a good job against him, but if you're set on it, here's what I think:

between DK and ROB, I'd go with ROB, because he's got power, and a recovery that makes DK look like a lead weight, and he's got a projectile that can't be bucketed.

My personal preference though (besides Falco) would be Marth or Pikachu

 

[bowz]

I use ROB and DK. They are both helpful at their times. I've been looking into marth, but not sure if I have too much potential with him, but if you do, then I advise him. I'd say DK and marth or Rob and marth would be your best alts.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Well this may seem abit out of the blue, but my secondary's Diddy and in many ways he compliments Falco. You can be creative with bannanas as you can with lasers, but to an even larger extent.

Also, Diddy's matchups are very advantageous in some situations, people just dont know it yet as he is the most underplayed character in the game (except perhaps Jiggs). For instance, he wrecks the IC, rapidly desynching them, screwing up there CG's etc.

The one other reason is because Diddy, like Falco has a very good spike game. D Air, Barrel spike, and Diddy hump are three spikes that are all fully applicable.

 

[Blad01]

And does Diddy beat G&W, according to you ?

 

[Blistering Speed]

Many would disagree, but I would call it even. Sorry, but your gonna be very hard pressed to find a G&W counter he has probably the best matchups in the game

 

[Emblem Lord]

Snake gives G&W the business. Marth has slight advantage. Maybe MK does too.

 

[Blad01]

Snake gives G&W the business. Marth has slight advantage. Maybe MK does too.

Yeah, i'm actually studying Marth's metagame for now.

But i still hesitate between DK (my favorite for the moment), ROB and Marth.

 

[redgreenblue]

The counters I've been working on so far for Game and Watch are... Donkey Kong, Game and Watch, Zelda.

 

[Dustero]

One thing that I know helps is to actually play with the character that you're trying to beat. I had problems with Mk, so I started to play as him and research on stuff that he can do. I eventually knew what my opponent was going to do, so I know how to counter it.

I suggest before you pick a secondary, start maining G&W. You probably won't keep him as a main, but you'll know how to play against him better that way.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Dustero, OT but I understand you changed you main because of the pressure of him being ... well Snake. But you mained him from Day one so personally, as much as I hate Snakes, I think you should stick with hiim. Peer pressure shouldn't affect the character you play

 

[Onomanic]

I'd say ROB. He has good projectiles and is wicked in the air. He's a good secondary. Lot's of good ROBs out there.

 

[ReppinThat703]

ROB ftw all day

 

[DanGR]

I heard somewhere that TL was good against Falco's weaknesses. I'd give him a try. You said yourself that you like link, so idk.

 

[GiNO The KiDD]

I say second DK cuz once you master super armour, you automatically win.DK is to beastly, just look at BUM.

 

[Beetle Juice]

actually the only real counter versus Game and Watch is only toon link due to his mid range play-style

G&W ***** ROB and DDD

and every other good character goes dead even with him.

 

[Fluke]

I'm learning Donkey Kong a bit too since there is some Nintendo connection tour in Australia very soon, and I doubt they will let you use the unlockables, due to spoilers of the casuals which they want to get more sales from?

Nevertheless, atm I'm pretty crappy at DK.