Scott Pilgrim vs. The Mafia | GAME OVER: Infinite Sadness/Finest Hour

[#HBC | Nabe]

You made it very clear. But you're very wrong, because that's not how words work. "I shoot someone when I die" will be taken to mean "when I die from any result" by anyone who speaks the language. This is why I bring up baiting a kill.

 

[BarDulL]

You made it very clear. But you're very wrong, because that's not how words work. "I shoot someone when I die" will be taken to mean "when I die from any result" by anyone who speaks the language. This is why I bring up baiting a kill.

There's a reason why I haven't elaborated on this point of contention. Are we done now?

 

[KevinM]

"Are we both in agreement that you trying to set up a policy lynch on my slot on D3 is gross? Being that I'm Town, subjecting myself to any kind of lynch is counter-intuitive, especially on the premise of bad policy. Not to mention that if scum actually did try to quick lynch me, they would subsequently reveal themselves and risk the game on night actions since they wouldn't have a majority as a result of me killing one of them. The answer is no, I'm not ok with any kind of policy lynch on D3. I'm a little disappointed in your assertions and your would-be premise for supplying them."

Hmmmm

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

There is no mystery and weirdness here, and I actually can't believe you have the nerve to say that when you try to pull that **** all the time. *facepalm*

Exactly.


If I neighbour you toNight, will you tell me what I need to know? I'll keep it on the DL.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bardull what exactly is your purpose to this argument?

 

[#HBC | J]

Naptime followed by posting in here. I'd like to say something on the Bardull dilemma because his slot is going to be a topic of discussion for the entire game simply because of his claim.

Also after seeing Kevmo post more eh I don't mind him being doc'd but when has Kevmo ever been at risk to dying at night? He's kind of like me where we never get NK'd unless it's cuz of a claim or it's endgame. But KevinM by any means can live passed toDay.

KevinM, could you talk a little more on the S&M slot? He seems to just be actively ignoring you besides to just give you compliments or buddy you. How do those actions make you feel about him especially now considering you have what seems to be a strong town read on Gova while Marshy adamantly claims Gova is scum.

 

[BarDulL]

Exactly.


If I neighbour you toNight, will you tell me what I need to know? I'll keep it on the DL.

It's not like I'm doing it for weird reasons, I'm doing it because it's what I feel is the best play. Additionally, it's only mysterious to you because you want an explanation and I'm not providing an answer to your surface level curiosity. No one else is making a deal out of it except you.

Let's say we operate on the assumption that I DID tell you the EXACT mechanics of what my role does. If I tell you in public that I blow up a random townie as a result of being killed during the night phase, then that forces our hypothetical doctor to be on me at all times during the night phase, OR it forces a policy lynch on D1 on my slot. Neither of these outcomes are good for Town. Let's say that I said nothing happens when I die during the night, then scum will never target me and try to push for a policy lynch on D3 or something silly to that effect. Or worse, Town will waste a hypothetical vig shot on my slot when it's completely unnecessary because they're afraid of something they shouldn't be afraid of.

That is exactly why I will never, ever, EVER tell you how my role works until my death or post game.

If you neighbored me, I wouldn't tell you because there's no reason for you to require that knowledge in the first place. You have not given me any actually good reason for desiring to know, and it's a little weird that you've been incessant about it this entire day phase.

 

[BarDulL]

I would tell you if your alignment was confirmed to me. That's the only time I would tell you though.

 

[KevinM]

"KevinM, could you talk a little more on the S&M slot? He seems to just be actively ignoring you besides to just give you compliments or buddy you. How do those actions make you feel about him especially now considering you have what seems to be a strong town read on Gova while Marshy adamantly claims Gova is scum."

He called me swag. What more do you want?

Also like I said call it a cop-out if you wish but I actively can-not read Marshy as a player, as of right now I feel his posts have town intent and thus I'm more then content with letting him live through D1 in favor of my other stronger scum reads. Also the Soup head for the most part aligns with what I have of Soup town meta. Making me feel slightly more at ease.

 

[KevinM]

Nabe your tunneling of this is starting to throw up some red flagskis.

Also your thoughts on the policy lynch Nabe?

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

on the subject of bardull:

gideon isn't a provable claim as much as someone claiming scott pilgrim would be. i assume if you were scum you would use the fact gideon is a villian to justify yourself seeing how you're tyring to make us believe the mindset that you're conditionally cleared because of it. firstly, i don't want to see this. i'm not going to let you coast and do nothing just because of your claim. secondly, why are you going on about it? what does it even matter to me, hell, what does it even matter to anyone? i'm certainly not going to decide any lynch based on flavor and you shouldn't either, so you having this argument with nabe about it is both unproductive and stupid. i can see his reason to suspect you ever more slightly.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

bardull, give me a read on nabe. surely you have one with his incessant tunnel right now.

 

[BarDulL]

on the subject of bardull:

gideon isn't a provable claim as much as someone claiming scott pilgrim would be. i assume if you were scum you would use the fact gideon is a villian to justify yourself seeing how you're tyring to make us believe the mindset that you're conditionally cleared because of it. firstly, i don't want to see this. i'm not going to let you coast and do nothing just because of your claim. secondly, why are you going on about it? what does it even matter to me, hell, what does it even matter to anyone? i'm certainly not going to decide any lynch based on flavor and you shouldn't either, so you having this argument with nabe about it is both unproductive and stupid. i can see his reason to suspect you ever more slightly.

I'm not having an argument with Nabe about it. Read my posts before you make yourself look stupid.

 

[BarDulL]

bardull, give me a read on nabe. surely you have one with his incessant tunnel right now.

I am acknowledging that I've seen this post and I'm choosing to not answer it at this time.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

kary why do i always get the impression that you want to somehow secure my lynch for reasons other than being pro-town

why can't you just accept that my blue hair, blue eyes, pointy nose, is all indicative of me being town. and i claimed gideon of all people. why would scum claim gideon in a closed set up when it could have inadvertently spelled doom for my slot? that's like, so ********. why would gideon even be a safe claim?

lol

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

like, i'm ****ing gideon

i'm out to squash any and all of ramona's potential love pursuits.

the big man himself

don't forget that town doesn't know the flavor set up at all so like if everyone was a good guy and scum tried to claim gideon it would be ******** and obviously draw attention to themselves

double lol, might have not been nabe specifically (i did skim) but you can't deny what i said isn't true.

 

[BarDulL]

lol

That was in response to Kary, not Nabe, dumb ass.

 

[BarDulL]

double lol, might have not been nabe specifically (i did skim)/quote]


GG.

10000 GGs.

 

[Circus]

“We used to be closer than this. We used to get closer than this. Is it something you miss?”

Vote Count
FullMetalLynch [5]: Potassium, PrivateJoker-Brown, KevinM, Red Ryu, BarDulL
Kary [2]: Ranmaru, Zen
Gova [2]: FullMetalLynch, soupamarioyoshiluigiwario
BarDulL [2]: Kary, Nabe
soupamarioyoshiluigiwario [1]: J
frozenflame751 [1]: Vinyl.
J [0]:
Vinyl. [0]:
KevinM [0]:
Red Ryu [0]:
Potassium [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Zen [0]:
Nabe [0]:
PrivateJoker-Brown [0]:

Not Voting: frozenflame751, Gova

With 15 players alive, 8 votes are required for lynch.

 

[BarDulL]

Here's the thing: Gideon is a controversial character to claim. Scum also doesn't know what the Town set up looks like. Theoretically, Scum could all be evil exs, and thus they may feel it would be counter intuitive to claim an evil ex (Gideon) as a result.

I mean, it's ****ing GIDEON.

I already dropped this point of contention awhile ago anyway, so I have no clue why you're bringing it up.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

you still can't deny what i said isn't true. skimming or no skimming. don't ignore it.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

Here's the thing: Gideon is a controversial character to claim. Scum also doesn't know what the Town set up looks like. Theoretically, Scum could all be evil exs, and thus they may feel it would be counter intuitive to claim an evil ex (Gideon) as a result.

I mean, it's ****ing GIDEON.

I already dropped this point of contention awhile ago anyway, so I have no clue why you're bringing it up.

i don't care about this? read my post again perhaps.

 

[BarDulL]

I didn't ignore it. I still don't get why you're bringing it up, it's as if you think this level of semantics is conducive to finding scum at this point in time.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

okay, let's not. why are you refusing to out your read on nabe currently?

 

[BarDulL]

"Don't ask questions you don't already know the answers to, that's one of my rules."

I'm about to go eat lunch. Read my posts and you'll get a general feel for what I think of Nabe right now.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

i didn't know that a simple read on someone could be so ambiguous.

will talk to marshy sooner or later peace for now

 

[BarDulL]

Back.

i didn't know that a simple read on someone could be so ambiguous.

will talk to marshy sooner or later peace for now

You don't actually think I'm incapable of coming up with a legitimate read for Nabe as scum, so your wording here is odd. If the read was simple, then you wouldn't require it as evidence of anything. You lose town points for this post.

Here's a summary of Nabe's slot: Nabe has been tunneling my slot for no obvious or distinguished reason, to the point where it's incessant and a bit ridiculous. He has no strong premise and his main focus has predominantly been the language of my role pm. He's a scum lean for sure because he hasn't entertained alternative avenues and because there's no good reason behind me outing the information I could out as it will further benefit scum much more than Town for reasons already previously established. His scum hunting is lackluster (how does asking marshy if he's town somehow prove that marshy is town?)

 

[BarDulL]

I would vote Nabe, but I see merit in the FML ordeal, and I don't feel that my vote on Nabe would amount to anything because there is a degree of scrutiny surrounding my slot that I am currently extinguishing.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

you've completely over-analyzed that post, when i said it was simple i meant just that. i just wanted out to out a read but instead we've gone into paragraphs from something that could have been summed up simply answering me. why just scum-lean, and not full? what's stopping you from voting nabe? this i don't understand.

 

[BarDulL]

you've completely over-analyzed that post, when i said it was simple i meant just that. i just wanted out to out a read but instead we've gone into paragraphs from something that could have been summed up simply answering me. why just scum-lean, and not full? what's stopping you from voting nabe? this i don't understand.

I did not over analyze that post, and you are bad at this game.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

what's stopping you from voting nabe again?

 

[BarDulL]

I would vote Nabe, but I see merit in the FML ordeal, and I don't feel that my vote on Nabe would amount to anything because there is a degree of scrutiny surrounding my slot that I am currently extinguishing.

???????????????????

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

okay. thanks.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Here's the thing: Gideon is a controversial character to claim. Scum also doesn't know what the Town set up looks like. Theoretically, Scum could all be evil exs, and thus they may feel it would be counter intuitive to claim an evil ex (Gideon) as a result.

I mean, it's ****ing GIDEON.

I already dropped this point of contention awhile ago anyway, so I have no clue why you're bringing it up.

I don't care for this.

I care about more you claiming early then posting for only yourself.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Kevin I'd rather lynch Bardull tomarrow since mafia around here is balanced on the 3 strikes mentality usually.

 

[ranmaru]

yo ran if it makes you feel any better im pretty sure we can be townbros

**** badwolf. this dude is just chillin here in the thread *****in at pjb about NOTHING. literally nothing hes talking about has to do with scum. hes just sitting there butthurt over some ******** bull**** instead of playing mafia. i see no drive to hunt scum and instead see a salty pony spending all his time derailing the thread. i dont give an iota of a **** about his "wahh im replacing out" cuz hes salty and angry regardless of alignment. good gorf do i hate badwolf and am at least glad i no longer have to read his posts. were lynching the SLOT not the PLAYER so his replacing out isnt a reason to back off of him. dont be ******** and eat up the tears guys

Uh... maybe. Need more from you bro. Badwolf is eh to me tho. He's a crapshoot to read. Join me on Kary instead. Then maybe we can be town bros. You STILL owe me from when I helped you wagon whizkid in Epic Rap Battles.

Did I say Ryu town? Well if not, Ryu can totally be town. Also I am totally infatuated with Gova lately especially with his more recent conversation with PBJ. He is coming off very calm and trying to explain things clearly but in a logical tone that makes sense so I am pretty fine with Gova's slot and definitely would not like to see it lynched toDay when combining Gova's posts with BW's posts.

Gova always comes off that way. He'll always just argue about something. Like fluff. "Hey ran your fluffing" and then I'll go ">_>". I don't really see how the underlined is indicative of alignment. (It's null to me) Unless you have seen otherwise from GovaSCUM.

That depends on his response to my previous post. But it's not looking good coach.

Gova, what is your read on PJB now, since he responded to you and I think you talked a bit more.

Vote: FullMetalLynch

Still V/LA.

Why did you vote FML here? (Besides you being VLA)

Gova's play thus far is lining up with Town Gova, and I also agree with a majority of his points.

How so?

 

[ranmaru]

keep pressure on bardull

This doesn't relieve my concerns with you leaving a vote on him when he's vla. You are using the excuse of him coming in here while vla to sit on him and not do anything else. Since you have had your vote on Bardull the whole time, tell me how it has helped you read him (and tell me your opinion of him now).

shouty at FML? not relevant when they start to flail

Huh? I don't understand what you mean here. Please clarify.

yeah but he didnt say 'im claiming because im hated'; he said 'im claiming because ill be v/la' and then he wasn't even that v/la. and im not trying to make him look bad. im just trying to get a read on him. apparently everyone else is immediately fine with him b/c of his claim, and that's not cool.

His exact words when claiming doesn't matter. Just because he didn't exactly say he was claiming because he was hated, doesn't mean it isn't implied that he is claiming hated because he will be vla and therefore doesn't want **** to happen to him, a hated role, while vla.

To make it easier to understand "I'm claiming because I'll be VLA" implies he is also claiming because he is hated, when you see this: "I'm claiming [a hated role] because I'll be VLA"

You are only focusing on him 'not even being vla' but you aren't considering his hated role.

blah blah its because you trust zen over me. or whatever. i'm not scum so push something useful

Don't try to act like it's because I am trusting zen blindly. I also have my own reasoning as to why I see you as scum, and we both have an understanding with your meta. Don't try to twist that as the sole reason, and don't forget that I do have reason to suspect you.

It wasn't a plan an I don't get how you think I'm trying to make it seem that way, Orbo told me he didn't like Vinyl's 96 and I told him to lay it out for me. He did an I told him he could move our vote but I was going to keep looking at BW while we hung around on Vinyl. It just happened, what can I say. We voted BW, an got a reaction, Orbo pointed some stuff out on Vinyl an we moved. Us moving was not conducive to our interest in BW dying, we were still just as interested. The assertion that our interest in BW died when we moved our vote is flawed, as i've said, I don't need to be voting someone to be looking at em.

I also understand what you think, it's just flawed wrt your second point. I'm not attempting to undermine people's position, I'm trying to understand why they are scum reading me, if they lay out what's what I can try to explain and move on / back to catching scum. Plus, a lot of people's reasoning so far doesn't make a lot of sense. I try to look at it from their POV an explain it to em.

Kary accuses FML of making **** up with moving his vote. FML explains yet instead, he doesn't follow up and instead (while asking kantrip a question and a question about vinyl), goes on to add more reasons for his dislike towards FML, in the following quote:

talking about why your slot is scum

doesn't look productive

if you're town

^
problems I have with your slot

This shows he doesn't care to consider FML's defense, and only wants to condemn him.

Now Kary. What do you think of FML's explanation to your question? Why didn't you respond to it?

 

[KevinM]

Yeah I guess I'm ok with that.

Baddull, can you stop being so openly confrontational it's annoying to slog through.

 

[ranmaru]

I'm going to be V/LA tommorrow. I'm going early to New York for just a day, my mom wants to go. :3

I'll go into my read on FML in a bit since he is shaping up to be the lynch. (And since deadline is near)

 

[KevinM]

Ran I'm going to request for the sake of clarity that you change off of my avatar, if you want to continue after the game that's fine, but reading through is confusing for me and I'm the person your trying to imitate, I don't want your reads to be brought up as mine because someone misreads a post.