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Scott Pilgrim vs. The Mafia | GAME OVER: Infinite Sadness/Finest Hour

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ok. so j and gova seem to love painting my hatred of bwolfs slot solely due to his emotional overreaction. while i thought that overreaction was bull**** i also pointed out that his gravitating towards posts focusing on that had NOTHING to do with finding scum and was essentially just ****posting and focusing on himself. pretty tired of it being written off as "badwolf crying isnt scummy lol"

i also have no idea why gova is harping on pb+js dislike for him as "only working if he knows im scum"...the ****? the dude is just speculating scumteams and i dont see where gova is going with that

man. i really dont want to respond to another j wall
 

#HBC | J

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Again you really haven't answered an underlying question both myself and Gova have asked of you.

What makes his play not just anti-town and actually scummy? Big denominator that you have left out of your equation. I haven't even painted you anything besides what you have said in the thread. Stop trying to make yourself sound more right with petty hyperbole and just stick to the facts of what has actually been said.
 

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hey you I said I was going to shoot you
talk to me

We have nothing to talk about; you haven't substantiated yourself and your scum read on me and I'm not particularly fond of you at this point in time as a result. Additionally, you voting for me because I never answered your question is equally awful and spells idiocy.

Additionally, your question assumes that my ability works during the night, however I never made such a specification, nor do I feel it necessary to divulge that kind of information to you in the first place.
 

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Bardull, that post towards Nabe is just...bad. You are literally saying in a more fluffy way "I don't like you cuz you don't like me".
 

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J, you're absurd; of course I'm not going to like someone who hasn't given any rhyme or reason for disliking my slot.
 

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I feel what you are a saying is a double-standard but I'm just gonna drop it....

I'm not saying that I didn't try to understand him at first. There's literally no point in what he's doing or has been doing. Like, I'm not really sure why he asked marshy if marshy was Town; as if that kind of question is imperative to finding scum. Frankly, I think Nabe and to a lesser extent Kary are bogus because they're walking into a dead end with my slot. They might be Town, but they're looking in the completely wrong direction, Nabe more so than Kary because Kary has actually looked elsewhere and been productive while I've been V/LA. Nabe has just sat on his hands postulating that this ever important question of his will be the end all answer to whether or not I'm scum. It won't.
 
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Again you really haven't answered an underlying question both myself and Gova have asked of you.

What makes his play not just anti-town and actually scummy? Big denominator that you have left out of your equation. I haven't even painted you anything besides what you have said in the thread. Stop trying to make yourself sound more right with petty hyperbole and just stick to the facts of what has actually been said.
getting ready for work now and ill hit the top later but for now

what is the bolded in response to? i am not trying to be dense here
 

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ok. so j and gova seem to love painting my hatred of bwolfs slot solely due to his emotional overreaction. while i thought that overreaction was bull**** i also pointed out that his gravitating towards posts focusing on that had NOTHING to do with finding scum and was essentially just ****posting and focusing on himself. pretty tired of it being written off as "badwolf crying isnt scummy lol"
yo. talk to me about why scumwolf would want to mention a dislike of Bardull's claim. Surely that's going to bring him unnecessary attention?
 

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yo. talk to me about why scumwolf would want to mention a dislike of Bardull's claim. Surely that's going to bring him unnecessary attention?

it's badwolf. i honestly don't see an immediate scumwolf and moved away from him during rvs as a result. just a feel really

also, i blame ran for ruining my sleep schedule, even though we ended up thinking up the ultimate hydra in existence as a result.

sacrifices must be made
 

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is it just me or does RR seem like...y'know...not as active as he usually is as town

i just get the impression that he's not hyped up because he pulled scum this time around, or something, for some reason.

someone tell me it's just a nightmare, a fantasy, it can't be true
 

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kary why do i always get the impression that you want to somehow secure my lynch for reasons other than being pro-town

why can't you just accept that my blue hair, blue eyes, pointy nose, is all indicative of me being town. and i claimed gideon of all people. why would scum claim gideon in a closed set up when it could have inadvertently spelled doom for my slot? that's like, so ********. why would gideon even be a safe claim?
 

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wow guyz i'm gideon i can't possibly be scum right?

the whole point of a safeclaim is that it is something safe for you to claim

besides, there's seven evil exes, and it doesn't make sense for them all to be mafia.


why did you even claim you were gideon, claim that you were vengeful?

why didn't you just claim hated?
 

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because just claiming hated wouldn't necessarily prevent people from dog piling me in dumb fashion on d1 while i was v/la because of finals? just read deadpool mafia man, that was the dumbest **** ever and it was traumatizing.

ok it wasn't really traumatizing but in the heat of the moment people were lulzing it up and i was like "fuuuuuu" and then i got quickied 2 pages in. dumbest **** ever and i had a feeling the exact same thing was going to happen.

also i wasn't on smashboards at all mon-wed, i think it's hilarious that you keep saying "i wasn't really v/la" -________- finals are tough and i still have one more due this sunday.

how do you know if any of them are mafia????

kary i don't think you really understand how unsafe claiming the main bad guy is.
 

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like, i'm ****ing gideon

i'm out to squash any and all of ramona's potential love pursuits.

the big man himself

don't forget that town doesn't know the flavor set up at all so like if everyone was a good guy and scum tried to claim gideon it would be ******** and obviously draw attention to themselves
 

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There's no such thing as an unsafe nameclaim in this game. This isn't Golden Sun where the setup is slave to the flavour.

We have nothing to talk about; you haven't substantiated yourself and your scum read on me and I'm not particularly fond of you at this point in time as a result. Additionally, you voting for me because I never answered your question is equally awful and spells idiocy.

Additionally, your question assumes that my ability works during the night, however I never made such a specification, nor do I feel it necessary to divulge that kind of information to you in the first place.
You don't actually think this, as any faction. So let's disabuse any notion of it being true.

You've already stated that your ability triggers when you die. (I buy that you don't think you have -- but your claim wording unambiguously states as much, despite what you think you said.) And scum (if you're not a member) thinks you're playing badly, because they're witnessing your posts being ineffective. And while there's some small merit to the idea they might leave you and attempt an ML later on ambiguity, they won't, because it's much more likely at this junction that you'll shoot wrong after they shoot you, giving them what's ostensibly a second kill. So I need to get some PR's attention on you, and what I'm trying to determine is whether I need to rally a vig or rally a doctor.

Now. Before youse fly off da handle, try readin' the above paragraph as if I axelly believe what I's written.
 
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What makes his play not just anti-town and actually scummy? Big denominator that you have left out of your equation.
i also pointed out that his gravitating towards posts focusing on that had NOTHING to do with finding scum and was essentially just ****posting and focusing on himself.
this play is consistent with scum. could bwolf just actually be worst ****in town? yes. but its a judgment call im stickin with the former outcome. this reminds me of ass effect (i apologize to everyone who took part in that game for even mentioing it here) wen you thought i was scummy for wanting to lynch the **** out of dabuz while you were calling him anti town

karebear while bwolf criticizing bards claim could bring him unnecessary attention who gives a ****? bwolf is ****ty scum anyway and its not like he didnt have an excuse ready should someone grill him for it like when he was all "bard im not actually pushing you otherwise id be voting you" (what the ****? it obviously bothered him enough to mention it in the first place so AGAIN im asking myself wtf bwolf is even trying to accomplish)

btw no @ bardull. ruy is tow
 

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Because I dislike your slot for being blatantly scummy?


I haven't had much to say town is busy running in circles.

I'm ok with lynching Bardull on the complete basis that a hated slot is more and more troublesome the later the game goes on, I don't like the way you've tried to have your entire D1 circulating around "How exactly am I scummy?" it's an argument that makes it easy to not only substantiate what you're doing wrong to change that but also if people aren't articulate enough to spell out the various connections you have or why they dislike your D1 play you can basically just say "You clearly are just reaching" it's a fake play.

Nabe vs Bardull is interesting but I'm not sure I can justify it as an S v T read right now because I'm not particularly scum reading either of them hard enough.

Bardull would most likely be my pick if it was S v T.

S n M as usual I can't read and will just assume that Marshy is townbro swaggin.

PJB is one of my stronger town reads at the moment.

Gova's play thus far is lining up with Town Gova, and I also agree with a majority of his points.

Gova and RR still my triple vote would be nice
 

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I'm ok with lynching Bardull on the complete basis that a hated slot is more and more troublesome the later the game goes on, I don't like the way you've tried to have your entire D1 circulating around "How exactly am I scummy?" it's an argument that makes it easy to not only substantiate what you're doing wrong to change that but also if people aren't articulate enough to spell out the various connections you have or why they dislike your D1 play you can basically just say "You clearly are just reaching" it's a fake play.
I don't like how he is reacting to Nabe myself.
 

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There's no such thing as an unsafe nameclaim in this game. This isn't Golden Sun where the setup is slave to the flavour.


You don't actually think this, as any faction. So let's disabuse any notion of it being true.
I do think this. The end.

You've already stated that your ability triggers when you die. (I buy that you don't think you have -- but your claim wording unambiguously states as much, despite what you think you said.) And scum (if you're not a member) thinks you're playing badly, because they're witnessing your posts being ineffective. And while there's some small merit to the idea they might leave you and attempt an ML later on ambiguity, they won't, because it's much more likely at this junction that you'll shoot wrong after they shoot you, giving them what's ostensibly a second kill. So I need to get some PR's attention on you, and what I'm trying to determine is whether I need to rally a vig or rally a doctor.
I am aware that I said that when I die, my ability triggers. Unbeknownst to you, I am also aware that I made no specification to how my ability activates. Quit being silly and look elsewhere, you're not needed in rallying a doctor or a vig for my slot.
 

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I'm ok with lynching Bardull on the complete basis that a hated slot is more and more troublesome the later the game goes on, I don't like the way you've tried to have your entire D1 circulating around "How exactly am I scummy?" it's an argument that makes it easy to not only substantiate what you're doing wrong to change that but also if people aren't articulate enough to spell out the various connections you have or why they dislike your D1 play you can basically just say "You clearly are just reaching" it's a fake play.

Nabe vs Bardull is interesting but I'm not sure I can justify it as an S v T read right now because I'm not particularly scum reading either of them hard enough.

Bardull would most likely be my pick if it was S v T.

Someone calls you scum and you're not heavily invested in the game because you've been V/LA. What do you do?
 

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Quad post.

I mean, really, I'm not even asking them why they think I'm scum, I'm saying that they have no substantiation. This is an assertion and most likely fact. If they had a more solid premise, they would have presented it to make their case stronger. They have no strong premise. Yet they continue to push? We're just going around in circles for no reason. They try to apply pressure, but I don't feel any because it's not going to work on me. I am saying this not as fluff (wtf at people saying I'm posting fluff), but because it is literally pointless of them to push my slot. This post contends to subsequently undermine them and to turn their heads away, albeit I wouldn't want to discredit Town players as a result, but if they keep butting heads with me, it must be done.

I can't be bothered to make any big cases because I'm not that heavily invested in the game. I still have an Accounting final to take care of, so I'm just playing defense until I really have time to sit down and read.
 

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Someone calls you scum and you're not heavily invested in the game because you've been V/LA. What do you do?
Ignore it?

Like I do all the time if I fall inactive?

Why do I have to justify a slot to somebody else in direct confrontation. If I can do something like I just did and point out where I feel the connections are, who I want lynched, point to where I want them lynched and generally have content to show you where my head is at, then why do I have to post directly to someone. This game isn't about appealing to one player, it's about appealing to the playerbase about why you're read is correct and where you're coming from.

Silly questions aren't helping me think we definitely should keep Bardull around despite his role being blatantly a problem the later a game gets. I will tell you this, I will physically not allow you to make it past D3 with your role unless we lynch two consecutive scum players. I am not hanging around in Lylo with a hated role. It's to much of an issue. If people have an issue with that and don't want to listen to basic fundamentals then I will raise hell and make this thread my own personal bitchfest.

How do you feel about that? On D3 would you be willing to vote yourself under those conditions?
 

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FML can still go btw, like his page 8 is so blatantly self-absorbed, he's clearly playing towards personal gain vs making strides towards developing his reads on more then just an AtE.
 

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By specification, I am referring to, of course, whether or not it activates in the night phase as well.
You said you're vengeful. You said, "when I die". This isn't ambiguity, at all. It's direct statements about your role. If you're baiting a kill, it's not going to come from scum if you're going to keep acting mysterious and weird.
 

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Ignore it?

Like I do all the time if I fall inactive?

Why do I have to justify a slot to somebody else in direct confrontation. If I can do something like I just did and point out where I feel the connections are, who I want lynched, point to where I want them lynched and generally have content to show you where my head is at, then why do I have to post directly to someone. This game isn't about appealing to one player, it's about appealing to the playerbase about why you're read is correct and where you're coming from.

Silly questions aren't helping me think we definitely should keep Bardull around despite his role being blatantly a problem the later a game gets. I will tell you this, I will physically not allow you to make it past D3 with your role unless we lynch two consecutive scum players. I am not hanging around in Lylo with a hated role. It's to much of an issue. If people have an issue with that and don't want to listen to basic fundamentals then I will raise hell and make this thread my own personal *****fest.

How do you feel about that? On D3 would you be willing to vote yourself under those conditions?

I was ignoring them. In fact, my latest posts to Nabe were essentially the "we're done talking to each other, further prodding of my slot will result in one-sided discussion" posts. It seems you haven't been paying attention.

Are we both in agreement that you trying to set up a policy lynch on my slot on D3 is gross? Being that I'm Town, subjecting myself to any kind of lynch is counter-intuitive, especially on the premise of bad policy. Not to mention that if scum actually did try to quick lynch me, they would subsequently reveal themselves and risk the game on night actions since they wouldn't have a majority as a result of me killing one of them. The answer is no, I'm not ok with any kind of policy lynch on D3. I'm a little disappointed in your assertions and your would-be premise for supplying them.
 

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You said you're vengeful. You said, "when I die". This isn't ambiguity, at all. It's direct statements about your role. If you're baiting a kill, it's not going to come from scum if you're going to keep acting mysterious and weird.

This is the last time I'm going to talk to you this Day phase about my role, so listen up:

There IS ambiguity because I didn't say whether or not it activates in the night as well. I thought I made this clear in my last posts in your direction, but I guess not.
 

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There is no mystery and weirdness here, and I actually can't believe you have the nerve to say that when you try to pull that **** all the time. *facepalm*
 
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