ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
wut? lol
The best thing you can do is keep on playing.
The best thing you can do is keep on playing.
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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
yooooooooooooo, eat a **** son
mah falcon>>>>>>>your gay *** falcon
mm nigggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ps: you some ****
mah falcon>>>>>>>your gay *** falcon
mm nigggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ps: you some ****
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
4000th post.
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ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
whatever yo
your falcon is a$$
its so much a$$ that your suck *** has to switch to fox as a crutch.
what type of **** is that?
whatever yo
your falcon is a$$
its so much a$$ that your suck *** has to switch to fox as a crutch.
what type of **** is that?
g-regulate
Smash Hero
you both lick donkey nut
Da Shuffla
Smash Lord
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I heard something like: Watch your opponent's first tech of the match, this is their "default tech."
Knowing this may help you read their techs later.
People NORMALLY don't tech the same way twice in a row if you catch on.
Knowing this may help you read their techs later.
People NORMALLY don't tech the same way twice in a row if you catch on.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
There are many different levels of players.
Some players will always tech a certain direction. Some players will more often tech towards the center of the stage or towards the outside of the stage. Some players like teching in place a lot. Some players always tech how they are DI'ing. Some don't tech because they are bad lol.
Some players will always tech a certain direction. Some players will more often tech towards the center of the stage or towards the outside of the stage. Some players like teching in place a lot. Some players always tech how they are DI'ing. Some don't tech because they are bad lol.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Scar
#HarveyDent
if your opponent tech reads in place then in place is horrible
if they never read in place then it's broken
_kSo_
Smash Master
lol scar .
g-regulate
Smash Hero
thats why you suck. nothing personal.
scar you going to rom? or some kind of EC tournament soon?
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
it was a joke...
now im real sad...
now im real sad...
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
hey g-reg mm @ rom 3
also yes scar are you coming to rom as well havent played you in long time i'm sure youve improved but myself can't say lol
also yes scar are you coming to rom as well havent played you in long time i'm sure youve improved but myself can't say lol
Scar
#HarveyDent
ya i'll be at rom for sure!!!
****!!
rofl g-reg reminds me of achilles whne he says to that little boy "that is why no one will remember your name" ROFL crushin dreams
****!!
rofl g-reg reminds me of achilles whne he says to that little boy "that is why no one will remember your name" ROFL crushin dreams
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
i will soon be able to go to OoS tournaments
beware the ****, everyone.
beware the ****, everyone.
linkoninja
Smash Journeyman
Scar, or anyone else.
I can L-Cancel N-Air, B-Air, and Up-Air easily now.
I'm having problems L-Canceling the Knee and his D-Air.
First I don't know if The Knee, needs to be L-Cancelled, and 2nd
I don't know when to L-Cancel the D-AIR. Since his feet go down, am I supposed to press L before his feet hit the ground of his attack animation, or after the attack animation is finished. When?
Any advice?
Also is Wave-dashing a technique you need to learn as Falcon.
What other techs should I learn as a beginner?
I can short hop, wall jump, fast-fall, L-Cancel (a bit but the ones I said before)
Edge jump, uhm. Yeah that's it.
Any help for a beginner at Melee would be appreciated :D
edit:
I forgot these: I also can
Up-B/Up smash out of shield
dash cancel
crouch cancel
Dash-Cancel grab/Up-smash
Shield-grab
Now I know these techs- but so far I'm having trouble applying them into matches.
I can also DI a bit, and I can tech (when I don't forget lol)
I can L-Cancel N-Air, B-Air, and Up-Air easily now.
I'm having problems L-Canceling the Knee and his D-Air.
First I don't know if The Knee, needs to be L-Cancelled, and 2nd
I don't know when to L-Cancel the D-AIR. Since his feet go down, am I supposed to press L before his feet hit the ground of his attack animation, or after the attack animation is finished. When?
Any advice?
Also is Wave-dashing a technique you need to learn as Falcon.
What other techs should I learn as a beginner?
I can short hop, wall jump, fast-fall, L-Cancel (a bit but the ones I said before)
Edge jump, uhm. Yeah that's it.
Any help for a beginner at Melee would be appreciated :D
edit:
I forgot these: I also can
Up-B/Up smash out of shield
dash cancel
crouch cancel
Dash-Cancel grab/Up-smash
Shield-grab
Now I know these techs- but so far I'm having trouble applying them into matches.
I can also DI a bit, and I can tech (when I don't forget lol)
i think im gonna be basically forced into retirement gentlemen
i live too far away from any steady group of smashers, traveling 5 hours for tournaments just to verify that everybody is passing me up is getting to not be worth it
i'd love to keep playing, and i'm sure i'll keep playing with juke while hanging out, but i dont think i got a lot more traveling in me
i live too far away from any steady group of smashers, traveling 5 hours for tournaments just to verify that everybody is passing me up is getting to not be worth it
i'd love to keep playing, and i'm sure i'll keep playing with juke while hanging out, but i dont think i got a lot more traveling in me
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
thats how i do i just go to tournys every year or so havent gotten better lol
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
bigd noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
linkoninja
Smash Journeyman
anyone...
Help?
Help?
l cancel based on when your character is not in the air anymore, not when the image of his feet hit the ground
yeah guys i mean its not like i can really do much else, not like i live in new york like manalord up there
i got juke nearby, have to drive 2 hours just to play somebody else that can go even with me, then probably 5 hours or so to play somebody who is better/go to a tournament
dont lecture me about that if you live on the east coast and have like 100 smashers within 2 hours of you, haha
yeah guys i mean its not like i can really do much else, not like i live in new york like manalord up there
i got juke nearby, have to drive 2 hours just to play somebody else that can go even with me, then probably 5 hours or so to play somebody who is better/go to a tournament
dont lecture me about that if you live on the east coast and have like 100 smashers within 2 hours of you, haha
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
hey pal it takes 4 to get from the city from where i live in ny ty
you know where i can get in 4 hours?
2 hours short of a smashfest with 3 players who can beat me, but wouldnt even be top players on the coasts, and/or a tournament with 20 players that would still have those players and i would get 5th or something
but yeah i feel you, cant just drive 4 hours on a whim
oh and hey, IB beat hax with marth at apex right?
im telling you guys, marth beats falcon and theres really no evidence except m2k's biased opinion to the contrary
2 hours short of a smashfest with 3 players who can beat me, but wouldnt even be top players on the coasts, and/or a tournament with 20 players that would still have those players and i would get 5th or something
but yeah i feel you, cant just drive 4 hours on a whim
oh and hey, IB beat hax with marth at apex right?
im telling you guys, marth beats falcon and theres really no evidence except m2k's biased opinion to the contrary
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
nooooo BigD don't do it
One of these days I'll drive Michigan down to Cincy to play you guys!
don't do itOne of these days I'll drive Michigan down to Cincy to play you guys!
GamerGuitarist7
Smash Champion
marth is eaaaaaaasssssssyyyyy
mastermoo420
Smash Ace
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@linkoninja:
- L-canceling knee is needed. You don't need to bother when it's a killing blow or whatever, but, at lower percentages, you can still combo off of the knee so L-canceling can get you moving. Plus, if you whiff or hit a shield or something, you'll want the extra frames for rolling away or something.
- L-canceling should be done before you hit the ground, btw. IIRC, it's a 10-frame interval before you hit the ground when an aerial is out for L/R/Z to be press to L-cancel. Just take the very first approach of L-canceling and press it when you're about to land; don't just use the other aerials' timing.
- Wavedashing isn't essential at lower levels of play, but it's great for spacing, and wavelanding is still pretty necessary.
- Imo, Up-B/Up-smash OoS isn't really necessary. You never really see it happen; I, personally (if it's significant at all, lol), would only use up-B OoS to mess around in friendlies or something. I don't think you'll ever be in a position to hit with the second hitbox of up-smash OoS; the second hit is the one that's important.
Btw, it's jump-cancel grab/up-smash. The reason is because the jump animation is being canceled, not the dash animation. The dash animation is canceled by the jumping action, lol.
And just try to use them in matches as much as you can. Play to learn, not to win. And you'll probably find out what works when and what doesn't. Gain EXP to level up!
Also, @Marth v. Falcon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kISRMCVI5-Y
looool
- L-canceling knee is needed. You don't need to bother when it's a killing blow or whatever, but, at lower percentages, you can still combo off of the knee so L-canceling can get you moving. Plus, if you whiff or hit a shield or something, you'll want the extra frames for rolling away or something.
- L-canceling should be done before you hit the ground, btw. IIRC, it's a 10-frame interval before you hit the ground when an aerial is out for L/R/Z to be press to L-cancel. Just take the very first approach of L-canceling and press it when you're about to land; don't just use the other aerials' timing.
- Wavedashing isn't essential at lower levels of play, but it's great for spacing, and wavelanding is still pretty necessary.
- Imo, Up-B/Up-smash OoS isn't really necessary. You never really see it happen; I, personally (if it's significant at all, lol), would only use up-B OoS to mess around in friendlies or something. I don't think you'll ever be in a position to hit with the second hitbox of up-smash OoS; the second hit is the one that's important.
Btw, it's jump-cancel grab/up-smash. The reason is because the jump animation is being canceled, not the dash animation. The dash animation is canceled by the jumping action, lol.
And just try to use them in matches as much as you can. Play to learn, not to win. And you'll probably find out what works when and what doesn't. Gain EXP to level up!
Also, @Marth v. Falcon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kISRMCVI5-Y
looool
linkoninja
Smash Journeyman
@linkoninja:
- L-canceling knee is needed. You don't need to bother when it's a killing blow or whatever, but, at lower percentages, you can still combo off of the knee so L-canceling can get you moving. Plus, if you whiff or hit a shield or something, you'll want the extra frames for rolling away or something.
- L-canceling should be done before you hit the ground, btw. IIRC, it's a 10-frame interval before you hit the ground when an aerial is out for L/R/Z to be press to L-cancel. Just take the very first approach of L-canceling and press it when you're about to land; don't just use the other aerials' timing.
- Wavedashing isn't essential at lower levels of play, but it's great for spacing, and wavelanding is still pretty necessary.
- Imo, Up-B/Up-smash OoS isn't really necessary. You never really see it happen; I, personally (if it's significant at all, lol), would only use up-B OoS to mess around in friendlies or something. I don't think you'll ever be in a position to hit with the second hitbox of up-smash OoS; the second hit is the one that's important.
Kk thanks :D
So final question is when do you L-Cancel the D-Air?
I've seen pros do it, and I still can't figure it out
I've tried everything and I can't seem to L-Cancel
everybody says marth is easy but falcons beat marths in tournament no more consistently than they beat fox
plus a lot of marths suck at the matchup
guys i dont think you understand my stopping
one person plays regularly within 2 hours of me, im going to keep playing with him
there are no tournaments within 6 hours that i can even find threads for in the future, at all
im not choosing to quit, its more or less being forced upon me
juggleguy dont drive michigan all the way to cincinnati just to play me and juke for one day, that would blow for you guys. if anything go to columbus and we'll meet halfway
plus a lot of marths suck at the matchup
guys i dont think you understand my stopping
one person plays regularly within 2 hours of me, im going to keep playing with him
there are no tournaments within 6 hours that i can even find threads for in the future, at all
im not choosing to quit, its more or less being forced upon me
juggleguy dont drive michigan all the way to cincinnati just to play me and juke for one day, that would blow for you guys. if anything go to columbus and we'll meet halfway
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dude, welcome to the midwest.
you just gotta keep goin like a champion
i believe in you big d
strong bad dont you tell me welcome to the midwest, ive been here way longer than you
and guys, im serious, its not an issue of motivation or w/e, the only difference most of you will notice is that i wont be at most of the nationals anymore
im the next jiano, basically, except without actually having a successful tournament run
and guys, im serious, its not an issue of motivation or w/e, the only difference most of you will notice is that i wont be at most of the nationals anymore
im the next jiano, basically, except without actually having a successful tournament run
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so you're gonna speedrun Super Mario 64 now?
D
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better player wins assuming both are good at the matchup
falcon hits/grabs marth, marth is dead, in a really bad spot, you literally can't DI away and down and get away like everybody else
marth can smack falcon away gayly forever but falcon lives forever too
well yeah better player wins in any matchup, because anything else is just plain johns
cant lose to fox over and over again and claim youre better anyway
marth can get out of combos a little better than people give him credit for, but you do have to be a little trickier than just away and down DI
cant lose to fox over and over again and claim youre better anyway
marth can get out of combos a little better than people give him credit for, but you do have to be a little trickier than just away and down DI
D
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its 50-50 and varies based on playstyle
ur rite though, most marths suck
ur rite though, most marths suck
Noc
Smash Journeyman
Fellow falcon mains: if you struggle against falco like I do, you might want to check out Peepee's Falco matchups thread (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=256826). Though he meant to teach falcos how to beat falcons, there's some ideas in there that could help falcons beat falcos.