ADHD
Smash Hero
Just putting it out there, IMO olimar is much better than dk, ice climbers, diddy kong, etc. He should rise eventually don't worry about it, ZSS doesn't deserve to be next to bowser either.
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SBR Tier list v1.0: Olimar's placement
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Graz69
Smash Cadet
i think they put him so low because of his easy gimpage and just the fact that not many people use him, regardless i think he is one of the best characters in the game and should be higher (but who cares tiers dont mean anything)
his smash moves are great, he has amazing grab reach and range in general, he has projectiles that can **** and he can use his down B to negate being knocked off the stage..... sounds like a top tier to me.
his smash moves are great, he has amazing grab reach and range in general, he has projectiles that can **** and he can use his down B to negate being knocked off the stage..... sounds like a top tier to me.
Zori
Smash Champion
I want olimar to be low as possible because im greedy.
asob4
Smash Champion
zori just won the thread
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We need to have a "Win count" thread for this sort of thing. It's like football. When you win as consistently as Zori does, you deserve to be ranked. And I have to say, the Olimar boards are the toughest conference in the league. This just makes it harder.
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
I say we let him fall, give them all a false sense of confidence so they begin to underestimate the little guy then we learn Uber techniques with him and unleash them upon the tournament scene!!!
Seriously a large portion of this list is based on Tournament Placings, so the more people we have using him the better he will place in tournaments (Of course not just any random scrub picking him up and saying "Hai Guise I use Olimar, he goes up in Tier List nao?")
Although I doubt his current placing will effect what anyone here on the Olimar Boards think of him, because we don't need a list to tell us how much he kicks *** =\
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I beg to differ. I live on average to about 160%. How many times do I have to repeat myself that his recovery isn't an issue. Sheesh! I should make a thread about this.
Like I said "He can be GIMP'd a bit easier then most characters he is immediately Middle or Below Tier" The ability to GIMP Olimar is an issue that most people who argue about know little to nothing about and simply use it as a last-ditch effort to prosecute Olimar. In reality Olimar has a lot of choices when put off stage. WAC, Purple Pikmin, using Air against Edge Hoggers or even stage spiking someone on their way to the ledge/on the ledge. People over-exaggerate how easy it is to GIMP Olimar, yes it is fairly easy to GIMP him but people are making it seem as though Olimars only option is to fall into it like Ikes Fsmash.I beg to differ. I live on average to about 160%. How many times do I have to repeat myself that his recovery isn't an issue. Sheesh! I should make a thread about this.
geekd
Smash Apprentice
Olimar is better than 18th
this tier list is premature. hopefully he doesn't climb too much higher though. currently the best characters are those easiest to master. A year or two from now and this list will be laughably different
this tier list is premature. hopefully he doesn't climb too much higher though. currently the best characters are those easiest to master. A year or two from now and this list will be laughably different
Nitrix
Smash Ace
Without Olimar's ability to throw Pikmin, he would suck horribly.
We have very different opinions regarding Olimar...
But the fact of the matter is that he has it...and thats his play style, throwing the Pikmin to cause damage. It's not a 'what if' situation I'm sure the Space Furries wouldn't be as good with their lasers, nor Diddy without his Bananas or Snake without his Weapons but the fact is that they do
Nitrix
Smash Ace
I know, I'm just saying that Olimar is campy.
Lol, yah don't need to tell me twice.
OlimarFan
Smash Ace
Snake is not easy to master.
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No character is "easy" to master. In fact, no-one has mastered any brawl character yet. I do think Snake is easier to pick up and use against other characters that people picked up the same time you did Snake. It depends what your definition of "easy" is when using it in this brawl setting. You've got to be more specific. Easy to me means outcamping din's. Hard to me means messing up sheik's nair>jab approach through forcing spacing errors. In my Pikmin v World guide, I put the Zelda's din's v Olimar's pikmin at 6/10 difficulty I think. I'm just giving the average opinion for a decent Olimar user, not my personal opinon. Anyways, the average opinion of how difficult Snake is to use leans towards hard-semihard. Now I've just gone to rambling. I'll stop typing. lol
Excellence
Smash Champion
Why are outside opinions of Olimar important AT ALL? I'm sure we'd all like to be the person bragging that their character is top-tier, but unfortunately Olimar is no where near top-tier. All the tier list does is give you a general consensus on the abilities of each character. Olimar is racked where he is because of his recovery and too many people who have no idea what a good Olimar looks like are following the banwagon. If an Olimar is ledgeguarded by WoP he probably isn't that good. So why let the opinion of others bother us when it's completely misguided?
On a positive side let's take a look at Olimar's plus side. He's got the best grab game in the game, period. He has the best projectile in the game, period. He's got excellent tilts, Dtilt and Utilt both have enormous amounts of priority and can be chained together to rack up ATLEAST 50% if used properly (from 0%). His aerial game is also well tended to due to his high priority, decent range and speed. He's small and hard to hit and he's immune to chaingrabs.
Despite ALLLLL of that people think, "zOMG Bair and he's dead because you're recovery saaaaaaaaaawks!!!"
On a positive side let's take a look at Olimar's plus side. He's got the best grab game in the game, period. He has the best projectile in the game, period. He's got excellent tilts, Dtilt and Utilt both have enormous amounts of priority and can be chained together to rack up ATLEAST 50% if used properly (from 0%). His aerial game is also well tended to due to his high priority, decent range and speed. He's small and hard to hit and he's immune to chaingrabs.
Despite ALLLLL of that people think, "zOMG Bair and he's dead because you're recovery saaaaaaaaaawks!!!"
OlimarFan
Smash Ace
TKD
Smash Lord
Hahahah WOW. Olimar is below Pit in the list? Olimar should move up to high tier in a year at most. This is ********.
The Olimar community doesn't have much people, plus, Olimar is very, very difficult to play well. Playing around his recovery which kills you from one mistake also takes long to learn.
I recommend persuading new smashers into maining Olimar. I always tell them to play Metaknight though, because, well, there's a point where one stops caring.
The Olimar community doesn't have much people, plus, Olimar is very, very difficult to play well. Playing around his recovery which kills you from one mistake also takes long to learn.
I recommend persuading new smashers into maining Olimar. I always tell them to play Metaknight though, because, well, there's a point where one stops caring.
Hai Im Fearless
Smash Lord
Going to gigabits (fl's biggest monthly) this saturday. I promise a good placement.
I also promise top 3 in teams, which will be -revolutionary- for olimar in a good smash scene.
I also promise top 3 in teams, which will be -revolutionary- for olimar in a good smash scene.
shrinkray21
Smash Ace
Just got second in teams at the last tourney I went to...I love olly in teams...too good...in a match with a double ddd team I did near 700 damage...gotta love heavies...:D
On the tier list...if they were going to drop olly down, I was really hoping for low tier...there aren't many middle tier tourneys
I'm jealous of all the lucas players...
peeup
Smash Lord
lol, I'm with shrink. Its good to main people in the low tier, because that way, you get low tier toureys, and bragging rights when you beat a top tier with a low tier. Beating a top tier with a mid tier is... less satisfying.
I'm fine with olimar's tier position, even though I think he could be higher.
I'm fine with olimar's tier position, even though I think he could be higher.
asob4
Smash Champion
i think he should be higher and the only reason he is low is ignorance
mookierah must not have put a lot of input into that list, or didn't mention oli
mookierah must not have put a lot of input into that list, or didn't mention oli
shrinkray21
Smash Ace
/shrug...I don't know how much it really matters in the end you know?
asob4
Smash Champion
i dunno i guess so
asob4
Smash Champion
well we use olimar, it's always going to look good when we win :D
TheWii
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showdownkiller
Smash Cadet
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Go take a look at jigglypuff's placement on the 2006 tier list. Go ahead.
Go take a look at who mango beat with jigglypuff in pound 3. Go ahead.
If SBR thinks your character is mid-tier, that means your character is probably good enough to dominate with. Don't worry about it. They'll change their minds later after you start owning the scene.
Go take a look at who mango beat with jigglypuff in pound 3. Go ahead.
If SBR thinks your character is mid-tier, that means your character is probably good enough to dominate with. Don't worry about it. They'll change their minds later after you start owning the scene.
Yeah but it does change how people see him. Especially the ignorant.
Is it just me or did Olimar move up?
asob4
Smash Champion
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^^^^^^
that's what all my posts are like lolololol
^^^^^^
that's what all my posts are like lolololol
Dabuz
Fraud at Smash
i agree with placement because everyone is starting to figure him out, a werk ago very few players knew how to handle them yet today everyone seems to know how to handle him
asob4
Smash Champion
everyone i play with knows how to handle olimar yet i am still able to win
obviously we work around that and change things so it shouldn't matter if they know how to handle him as long as we keep changing things up and finding new combos or techs
obviously we work around that and change things so it shouldn't matter if they know how to handle him as long as we keep changing things up and finding new combos or techs
Dabuz
Fraud at Smash
well maybe it was just a bad day for me then, i palyed mostly kirby for a doubles tourney(i won 25$) so i had trouble switching back to olimar but i got from 29th to 56th on aib in one day and a 5 loss streak or maybe i just got unlucky with who i fought
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I "found" a "new" combo that's pretty sweet. It's simple, but very effective. Dthrow>standing pikmin throw>dthrow>dtilt. If the pikmin is white, you'll rack up pretty nicely. After the second dthrow, they're looking to kill the pikmin. You can just punish the attack used to knock off the pikmin. If they don't attack it, more free damage!
The thing about Olimar's game is that there's soooo many options we've got using him that it makes it hard for people to adjust. Whether you've been practicing against Olimar for months, or just one day, there's still things that can catch you. Like his racking game and combos- there's almost no limit. Out of a dthrow, we can fair, pikmin throw, fsmash, dtilt, or upsmash and still follow up pretty easily with any other attack. This helps getting the kill because we're not diminishing the same attacks over and over again like some characters do.
The thing about Olimar's game is that there's soooo many options we've got using him that it makes it hard for people to adjust. Whether you've been practicing against Olimar for months, or just one day, there's still things that can catch you. Like his racking game and combos- there's almost no limit. Out of a dthrow, we can fair, pikmin throw, fsmash, dtilt, or upsmash and still follow up pretty easily with any other attack. This helps getting the kill because we're not diminishing the same attacks over and over again like some characters do.
asob4
Smash Champion
that sounds good dan lol
ima steal from you :]
ima steal from you :]
BlackWaltzX
Smash Lord
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Dangr, you just started using that? I thought it was in my guide..? :S
It works so well against tall/fast falling characters.
The best to do this to would be Pit.
It works so well against tall/fast falling characters.
The best to do this to would be Pit.