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San Diego Lovin' - Triweekly XXXII - December 1st

Vouge

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Eh, an enumerated ranking of sd smasher is a little hard to consider feasible. Im not gonna lie, I have some qualms with the top players and ok players rankings. It looked really nice as a grouping but beyond that... idk man. Given those lists, I say we have an intra skill level round robin to determine how further breakdowns should be drawn out.
 

W.A.S.T.E.

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There is definitely some serious debate going on here, but I think it's ultimately futile. There are many things we could consider for our rankings and I'm not sure how we could sort through all those factors cleanly. The simplest thing would be to look at collective tournament performance, but some of us haven't been here long enough to have established a legitimate tournament record.

Also, It is going to be really problematic if we are going to base our rankings on how well we do against each other in friendlies. We have a certain familiarity with each other and that can determine a lot despite there being an evident difference in ability. For example, I do reasonably well against Eric in friendlies. However, I think he has a better understanding of the game than I do and he has consistently performed equal to me or better in tournaments for which we both signed up. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am certain he placed above me in both the Triweekly and Winter Game Fest. Given that, I would comfortably say he is better than me overall even though I can beat him regularly.

Anyway, the only concrete thing I have to contribute to this is an uncertain record of individuals that I have either beaten or lost to in tournament. More elaboration can be found below.

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This is a list of UCSD/SD players that I've beaten in tournaments within the last full year (January 2010 - January 2011) "Tournament" here is an all-inclusive term and so should be understood to mean one of the following: Free/Smashfest/Ballroom tournaments, Triweeklies, Warren Game Extravaganza, WGF, etc. Some of these might not have been "important" to you, but a tournament is a tournament and for the sake of simplicity I am making all victories and losses carry equal weight. Please feel free to indicate any errors you see in the following.

Wins:

1. George
2. Ilija
3. Sunny
4. Eric D.
5. Marco
6. Jun
7. Josh
8. Kevin
9. Andrew B.
10. Andrew W.
11. Boss(?)
12. Deth (?)

This isa list of UCSD/SD players that have beaten me in tournaments within the last full year. Again, "tournament" here is an all-inclusive term and so should be understood to mean one of the following: Free/Smashfest/Ballroom tournaments, Triweeklies, Warren Game Extravaganza, WGF, etc. Some of these might not have been "important" to you, but a tournament is a tournament and for the sake of simplicity I am making all victories and losses carry equal weight. Please feel free to indicate any errors you see in the following. I might be forgetting some here so please let me know if I can add someone.

Losses:

1. George
2. Tristan
3. Pat (Too many damn times.)
4. Richard

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Interpret the above as you wish. My opinion is that I'm only really better than 2 or 3 of the players listed above and I think so only because of their lack of experience. Everyone else is either at my skill level or above with really small particulars and in-game variables determining the winner of any given set we play.

One last thing,

you all suck.

-Jesse, SNG Sucks, Ewjfasjmaster Sucks, Everybody Sucks, :mad:
 

chiZZLeSD

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whoa whoa whoa. what the heck happened here

and charles.. this is all your fault!
LOL. ok i dont really know how we'd extend this point-rating system to the rest of the community, but i think it'd be fun little experiment for SD. how about we try it for a little bit and if it turns out to be stupid then we drop it? i mean maybe we shouldnt categorize players into A, B, or C class because that could get ugly like jun said, but i think the point system would work out. and looking at how everyones posted so far, it really does add motivation..kind of lol.


ps: i dunno why people are discussing josh's skill level.. that *****'s good lol. "mr 14 stocks" remember guys?
 

W.A.S.T.E.

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I vote for not debating about the debate regarding the debate.
We're just in this for fun and debating about debates isn't going to solve anything.
 

soccerdrew17

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you fail at life. it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good. its either my favorite or second favorite and it perfectly goes into kh1. btw, play ventus then terra then aqua.
 

outofdashdwz

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A bunch of nice and flattering things about me :embarrass:
Jesse, the fact that I win more often against mediocre players can't even hold a candle to taking games off of (even in friendlies) m2k. You generally perform much better against Zhu, macd, and other random people who are much better than ourselves. In Zhu's case, he knows the Peach match up stupidly thoroughly as well as how I personally play very well, so I'm not sure how much that shows, but you do generally do better against more good people than I do. The exception I think was pp, and that might be because you just played him in friendlies and I played him in tourney where I was trying REALLY hard LOL. I feel like the only reason I outplaced you is because of your character's inherent inconsistency. Even on a bad day, my Peach is still, at the risk of sounding like a conceited douchebag, pretty solid. Missing l-cancels really doesn't- wait, what are l-cancels? Whereas for you, and correct me if I'm wrong, this is most definitely not the case. Missing an l-cancel against me, or really any other Peach/Marth/Fox/Falco/hell, against any decent player, really, could potentially translate to your loss of stock, especially on a stage like FD.

I guess basically what I'm getting at is that Falco is a high risk, high reward character compared to someone like Peach. When you play well, you're ridiculous, and when you're kinda off... :( At the end of the day, it's not how high you place, but who you beat. I really don't know where I was going with this, but I guess my general point was that I definitely am not better than you. If anything, you're better than me lol. In the end, I really don't think we can successfully discriminate who's what, and honestly, I don't really think we should. I actually do find it funny that you, me, Sunny, and George are all really modest about our skill level relative to each other and think each other is better. It must be because we're just amazing and saintly people. I've said this many times now, but in the grand scheme of things, we're just all pretty bad, and it really doesn't matter if, say, Yuta beats Tristan slightly more than vice versa or w.e. (making up this example, I don't know how your games go, <3 you both).

EDIT: THAT BEING SAID. I do support a point ranking system! None of us are stupid enough to take that as purely skill based, as obviously attendance factors heavily into it. SOUNDS FUN!!!
 

tera twin

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any idea around what time people are gonna be there? i'm taking the bus from where i live which google says would be like 2 hours and a half so i need to plan ahead lol
 

outofdashdwz

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any idea around what time people are gonna be there? i'm taking the bus from where i live which google says would be like 2 hours and a half so i need to plan ahead lol
I will be there at 4pm, but there will be people there long before. We usually start at 2, so it is highly likely that there will be people if you get there at 3.
 

Lanstar

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Lol Lanstar does fine in tournament. He goes to tournaments more than just about anyone else in the top list. The argument for him is that he's good at playing people he's unfamiliar with because he has more experience doing it than most of us. He puts himself out there, while we stick to what we know most of the time. He also plays with confidence and is very good in the clutch.
I very rarely play well in the clutch or with confidence LOL

I think the last time I've played with confidence recently is Arcadian and Dunk's birthday tournament lol
 

outofdashdwz

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On a side note, tera twin, the Roy you're referring to from NorCal is a Marth/Fox/Ganon player, Julian Kao (sweetxignorance). He was just screwing around at Arcadian and beating people with Roy haha.
 

tera twin

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On a side note, tera twin, the Roy you're referring to from NorCal is a Marth/Fox/Ganon player, Julian Kao (sweetxignorance). He was just screwing around at Arcadian and beating people with Roy haha.
ohh okay thanks. that day i played him was the day i learned Roy's up+b can star KO jigglypuff even at 0% LOL.
 

shaseim4st3r

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haha sd, you so crazy

keeping rankings out of sd would be a good thing, so none of us rage even more when we lose than we already do COUGH YUTA SAY WHAT
haha george thanks for the shout out to my rage.
i dont rage THAT much... i just state johns that sound legit but arent..? haha

Really, I have it but I haven't played it yet. >_> I still need a memory card for my psp ; v_v...
o my tristan, you're missing out. you gotta play it. if i havent been using so much time on smash, i'd be done with bbs but yeah you should get a memory card and play it asap!

well i'll try guessing..

jesse sunny pbs simon eric lanstar george jun yuta (consistent skill, no particular order since they beat each other)

miguel me joe tristan rd kevin (wouldnt be surprised if beat the above)

ky kelvin anthony andrew andrew tom (getting better)

hope nobody is offended.. lool and of course pat and richard aren't counted for obvious reasons.

Edit: Jun's right, kevin is mid tier

Edit: Switched Yuta and miguel, makes sense to me. (RD/Jun)
i think this ranking stuff is full of flaws and inconsistency. definitely not an accurate presentation of skill level. but eh w/e

This works for me.
I have secretly been an enemy to you all from day 1.
I no longer have to be a private villain.

-Jesse, SNG Sucks, Sasehwirsdm Sucks, :mad:
good. im glad you've shown ur true self. by the way, jesse, you've been spelling my name wrong since day ONE! it's on COOT.
 

stopNstart

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LOOL like i said, the players aren't in order... i dont think anybody knows that order, or if it even matters.
 

outofdashdwz

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Fun fact: Birth by Sleep is overrated.

Kingdom Hearts is sooo drawn out, way past its prime. Kinda like Pokemon.

1 was good, 2 was good, Chain of Memories is probably one of the worst games I've ever played, 358/2 was disappointing, BbS wasn't that great, and I'll try re:coded just because it's a KH game I guess.

On topic:

so are we actually doing shots for stocks? I'd be down, but imma take the shots before the stocks. I need to destress lol

EDIT:

wow, smashboards turned re: coded into a dumb smiley LOL
 

AzN_Lep

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i'm sad for not being mentioned on our fictitious rankings =(

I'm at least better than twokey.

On another note I'm working till 6:30, but I'll probably cruise by the lodge around then.
 

W.A.S.T.E.

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of course pat and richard aren't counted for obvious reasons.
Pat,

Did you overlook this? I think we are all under the assumption that you and Richard are a step above us. If you can prove to us that you suck, then I'm sure Twokey will put you into our rankings. Personally, I don't need proof that you suck because everyone sucks and I'm going to take you all out.

Also, I agree with Eric about KH. Mainly because I only played KH 1 and KH2. Those games were great. I'm feeling nostalgic now.


-Jesse, SNG Sucks, Sasiujeifja Sucks, Everyone Sucks, :mad:
 

Knee.of.Ky

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so are we actually doing shots for stocks? I'd be down, but imma take the shots before the stocks. I need to destress lol
lets do this lol! drunken melee is the ****. it hard to play tho!
i got my own bottle on hand.

@jesse
i want to see some of this talk IRL!!!!!! its so funny! wtf?!
 

Jun.

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I'ma just say it

I think I'd mess up Eric in shots for stocks

not so much on the stocks

but on the shots.

just sayin.

lets do this. Btw Ky I have something for you

OH AND ALSO recent discussion calls for it

SAN DIEGO HATE *****S
 

Knee.of.Ky

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!?!?! something for ME?!
Ill be at lodge from 2-9,
i say we do crews earlier on, then shot for stocks all nite!
 

Jun.

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Ky we have a ****ing party tonight

I'd rather play smash while smashed though. Funner than dj'ing at a damn party

i think its time for an avatar change also. R U guys ready for this
 

Knee.of.Ky

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AHGHHHHHHHHH!???!?!
the ***!?!
jun ur avatar r so creeeepy!

and i kno, the party not till like 9-10pm.
 

W.A.S.T.E.

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Wait...

So are we having a sober smashfest and then a drunken smashfest?
I'm up for the sober smashfest, but I'll probably opt out of the drunken one.
It's definitely a night time thing and my...um...time....is taken up night.

Anyway,

you all still suck and I will make you quit the game.

@Jun, that's pretty scary.

-Jesse, SNG SUCKS!, SHasejkrjf SUCKS!!, Everybody SUCKS!!!
 
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