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San Diego Lovin' - Triweekly XXXII - December 1st

outofdashdwz

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Arrrgh I really really wanted to go but everyone bailed on me for a ride :( Good stuff though, Pat. Your double ICs were pretty fly (haha, get it?). Good luck tomorrow!

give em that San Diego lovin'
 

Jun.

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I think the flow of Fox goes something like this

So many people used to play Fox so everyone knew the Fox matchup. People got bored of seeing Fox everywhere so they stopped playing as him and instead gave Falco more attention which made people around 2007-2008 bad at the Fox matchup. The dedicated Fox players kept improving tech and Fox came back crazier than before with people not too good at the matchup.

I personally think all of SD are weak against Foxes.
 

outofdashdwz

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I think the flow of Fox goes something like this

So many people used to play Fox so everyone knew the Fox matchup. People got bored of seeing Fox everywhere so they stopped playing as him and instead gave Falco more attention which made people around 2007-2008 bad at the Fox matchup. The dedicated Fox players kept improving tech and Fox came back crazier than before with people not too good at the matchup.

I personally think all of SD are weak against Foxes.
I think it's more just that juangrybox, fly, and axe got upset multiple times at this tourney.

And hmm my favorite match up is probably Fox. And probably my best one too... well maybe second, after Falco. But yea, after playing with Sunny a crap ton for an entire year, I don't think I'm Fox weak at all O_O Unless you mean character choices. Then yea, both my chars get ***** by Fox, and most of SD too I guess.
 

Jun.

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in the end though, Fox is not easy to play. Combofood, predictable recovery, large amount of tech skill required to play at the tier list level etc...
 

mrtracy

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Wow, is there a serious conversation about smash going on in this thread?
i know it's weirding me out too

also i just had like a 45 minute discussion with eric about pillaring 0.o.

but anyway the point of this comment was to let you guys know i might be around for some friday/monday smashfests when i come down for the weekend, though i'm warning you beforehand i might suck - a lot.

it's cool though, we all know i only go for the lolz
 

outofdashdwz

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I don't think Fox requires a large amount of tech skill to play actually, at least relative to the other viable characters. Of course, if you want to play like sw, then sure, but the best Foxes don't do anything excessively technically challenging. The consistency in tech skill needed for Fox (not missing an l-cancel, fast fall, etc etc) applies to all characters, and the only reason it might feel like it's excessive for Fox is because the consequence of missing one l-cancel is often greater than for, say, Jigglypuff.

Fox definitely has match ups where he is difficult to play. But I think the majority of his match ups, including Peach, which I'm going to use as an example just because I actually know it, Fox is easier to play than Peach. I'm sure this applies to many of his match ups though. I don't think I have to explain why.

jun

run

gun

fun

EDIT:

LOL george. we were kinda commenting on the stream too though. you should also come down when school starts too :(
 

tacoz42

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I don't think Fox requires a large amount of tech skill to play actually, at least relative to the other viable characters. Of course, if you want to play like sw, then sure, but the best Foxes don't do anything excessively technically challenging. The consistency in tech skill needed for Fox (not missing an l-cancel, fast fall, etc etc) applies to all characters, and the only reason it might feel like it's excessive for Fox is because the consequence of missing one l-cancel is often greater than for, say, Jigglypuff.

Fox definitely has match ups where he is difficult to play. But I think the majority of his match ups, including Peach, which I'm going to use as an example just because I actually know it, Fox is easier to play than Peach. I'm sure this applies to many of his match ups though. I don't think I have to explain why.

jun

run

gun

fun

EDIT:

LOL george. we were kinda commenting on the stream too though. you should also come down when school starts too :(
Edit: George, you should come down for WGF at least!

Edit 2: Apparently I can't read
 

Radical Dreamer

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Alright, so who is still in San Diego and down to play over the next week or few days? San Marcos? Leeland's Brigade? Lanstar and Friends? I know Tristan and I are still here, I believe Keelan is in for a bit, and I believe Wayland will be in soon. Let's try to figure out times and places that will work.
 

AzN_Lep

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top 9 finishers are GSG2

Jesus
Joey
Julian
Juan
Joseph / Jeremy
Johnny / Justin
Jeff

Lanstar, now is your time.

... or Jun pfffhahahha
 

WayChuDat

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Alright, so who is still in San Diego and down to play over the next week or few days? San Marcos? Leeland's Brigade? Lanstar and Friends? I know Tristan and I are still here, I believe Keelan is in for a bit, and I believe Wayland will be in soon. Let's try to figure out times and places that will work.
yee let's do it. I want to play teams
 

Radical Dreamer

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When and where do you guys want to play? I don't know if the lodge is open and even if it is, there's only one TV in there, so you guys might need to bring some extra setups. I don't have mine since I think Andrew took it.
 

soccerdrew17

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When and where do you guys want to play? I don't know if the lodge is open and even if it is, there's only one TV in there, so you guys might need to bring some extra setups. I don't have mine since I think Andrew took it.
can we keep our andrews in order? we all know that engdrew does everything to rain on our parades, but i dont want to get in trouble for his stuff.
 

Engdrew

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^ ditto

both parts LOL im in china too

and i miss playing smash lol - -

EDIT: @ andrews plural (after reading through the thread a little) my bad about the TV's. i didnt want to keep them in the lodge since theres no one around to kind of keep an eye on the lodge while we are gone haha D: sorry

@ pat, jun, jesse: its ALWAYS jun's time as long as he has his laser. pewpewpew

@ tristan: loool serious smash discussions are legit, i talk with eric all the time........about pokemon ahahaha

@ pnoy: i havent been following 5th gen, but i know what you're talking about. erics too dumb to realize

@ george: wgf is gonna be rapeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. i expect to see you there :D

@ everyone else: hope youre having fun and see you all soon :D
 

Radical Dreamer

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I have a full setup I can bring. Where is this happening? xD
My house, I'll PM you the address once we sort out the other details.

Basically this all depends on when both of you are willing to play. You guys can come over tomorrow (the 22nd) or the 23rd if you like, but I don't have a CRT at the moment because of engdrew, so the person who can bring a setup would need to come to make it happen. I know Wayland is getting in on the 22nd, but would you be up to play on that same day? Let me know what works. My number is 5102772178.
 

PNaleek

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My house, I'll PM you the address once we sort out the other details.

Basically this all depends on when both of you are willing to play. You guys can come over tomorrow (the 22nd) or the 23rd if you like, but I don't have a CRT at the moment because of engdrew, so the person who can bring a setup would need to come to make it happen. I know Wayland is getting in on the 22nd, but would you be up to play on that same day? Let me know what works. My number is 5102772178.
Both days work for me!
 
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