Samuel L. Jackson Mafia 2: Bruce Willis Mafia - The Revenge of Samuel L. Jackson (N6)

[KevinM]

Fuckin A are my Bro's bandwagoning on Scumfever, I sure do love bandwagons, and scumfever responded EXACTLY how I think scumfever would respond with the fever of scum. ChooFuckinChoo

Unyippie
Yippie Ki Yay Mothafucka: Scumfever

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Hey boo, look at the context in which I was talking. I was fuckin talkin about people that are unproven. If you're gonna dig that deep into your ass to make a case on something taken out of context, I don't wanna play with anything you got boy.

 

[KevinM]

ChooFuckinChoo

 

[DtJ Jungle]

You guys are fuckin stupid. I know kids on the short bus that make better decisions than you fucktards. You guys really are bandwagoning me on the fact that I used a word that can be associated with mafia in this game? What kind of fuckin proof is that?

 

[Tom]

What kind of fuckin proof is that?

what do you mean by this?

do you mean that we need better proof to prove the fact that you are scum?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Wow, Tom you're really fuckin good. You're trying to lynch me on the basis of one thing, that what I said COULD BE construed as a freudian slip. You're basically tryna turn a fuckin dime into a dollar with no powder. All your boilin is fuckin water.

 

[Mediocre]

Well, on the one hand I hate slip-logic, because it just seems so incredibly lame to me. It really seems like it shouldn't work.

On the other hand, every time I've seen someone point out a potential Freudian slip like this, it has wound up being the real deal.

Sorry Jungle.

Yippie Kay Yay Muthafucka: junglefever

Fuckheads gotta die.

 

[Evil Eye]

You're a sunny little shit, I'll give you that much.


Omis: scumfever, Riddle, Ronike (3)

Matunas: Macman (1)

scumfever: Tom, Marshy, Rockin, KevinM, Mediocre (5)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 of you assholes to lynch!

 

[Mediocre]

C'mon you fuckers. Jump on this bandwagon.

 

[mentosman8]

Haha bandwagons already pretty full Medi, and I think we've got quite some time left in the day. I'm waiting on adding my vote here, although I noticed the same thing Tom did reading Jungle's post, and the responses did sound kind of jumpy responsive, but not about to rush and make a mistake.

 

[KevinM]

To reiterate:

ChooFuckinChoo

 

[Omis]

yippie kay yay mothufucka:scumfever
While his point maybe not be 100% valid, I find what you said to be a huge slip. Plus your reaction is pure folding. Instead of trying to refute what he said with calm logic you are flipping out and allowing this situation to get the best of you. Scum.

 

[Omis]

yippie ki yay mothu****a:scumfever

 

[Evil Eye]

You got any last words before I kill you?


Omis: scumfever, Riddle, Ronike (3)

Matunas: Macman (1)

scumfever: Tom, Marshy, Rockin, KevinM, Mediocre, Omis (6)

With 15 alive, it takes 8 of you assholes to lynch!

 

[tmw_redcell]

Hmm. It's tricky. When I read Scumfever's post where he used the word ****head, I just thought he was going along with the swearing flavour of the game as apparently Bruce Willis says it in like every movie. I forgot that the mafia are ****heads, and people haven't really been calling them that in the thread. I figured he was just saying that if anyone should be policy lynched for not contributing it should be a player worse than Marshy, which Scumfever counts himself as one of.

I wonder if the mafia were more likely to think of themselves as ****heads and notice the use of the word. If so, then I think Tom could be using this chance to take advantage of it while a townie was using it unawares.

hahaaha i ****in lol'd, callin out riddle.

It's really not a matter of an opinion Omis. He's proven himself ****in time and time again.

Now if you don't like how the ******* plays, I don't either, but he's still proven he's a solid player. More so than alot of the other ****heads around here, including myself.

nope sorry

the answer i was looking for from "townfever" would have been to say that you were talking about marshy and saying that he was not a ****head. because essentially that is what i read when i read you say "moreso than some other ****heads" before I saw you add "-****heads like me." instead i get a scumfever explanation about how im being stupid and reading too hard

no sorry, im not playing too hard, you're just not hard enough to play with me.

vote stays.

This interpretation of Scumfever's post seems weird to me. If you immediately thought ****head=mafia, then "More so than alot of the other ****heads around here" would mean he thought Marshy was mafia--otherwise they wouldn't be 'other' ****heads, they would just be ****heads. I think the use of 'other' here implies that they're ****heads in addition to the current ****head being discussed, which would have been Marshy.

So jumping on this does seem like a stretch to me, and I find Tom's 'right answer' for Scumfever to be one he would never have given because it doesn't make sense.

All that being said, Scumfever is also the kind of guy who would make a Freudian slip like that, from what little I've played with him. I'm suspicious of him and Tom now, though I don't think they're scumbuddies working together.

Tom you should reread Scumfever's post with how I read it in mind, I think it makes a lot more sense than your reading, and is what Scumfever was saying. Though it's possible I've missed something.

Also, as for Ronike bringing up Riddle, I thought he was implying that omis and riddle are bad at mafia, or at least not as good as Marshy. I don't think I've really seen Riddle play so I don't know if that's a weird thing to say or not.

Edit after refreshing the thread: Holy balls, slow down guys.

 

[Mediocre]

I wouldn't have found junglefever vote-worthy except for his terrible defense afterwards. He didn't go, "Hey, Bruce Willis says that in his movie, and I was talking like that." He went, "Tom that's so lame, stop bothering me."

yippie ki yay mothu****a:scumfever

Hilarious voting failure.

What is a "mothu"?

 

[Omis]

Typos are serious business.

 

[Ronike]

I feel scumfever's thingy was just a typo, and I don't think his defense should be taken against him for the simple reason of possible posting restrictions...

Although I do see the appeal... Ill think on it.

 

[Omis]

I dont believe most feel it to be the actual error but rather how he responded to his accusations.

 

[Omis]

Oh nevermind I misread what you said

 

[tmw_redcell]

I feel scumfever's thingy was just a typo, and I don't think his defense should be taken against him for the simple reason of possible posting restrictions...

Although I do see the appeal... Ill think on it.

I think he either has a posting restriction or at least wants us to think he does. While there's been a ton of swearing going on generally, ever since the game started, each of his posts contain some variation of f*ck, usually (always?) in the first sentence of his post. Like he has to use it and uses it early to get it out of the way. He's also been posting a lot of one-liners, not sure if he normally does that. But I can see some kinda "you must post tons of one-liners with some use of the word '****' in them" restriction.

That being said though, having seen more of it I do think his reaction was pretty bad and while I'd let his first response or two slide, he got a lot of votes on him and still didn't respond with anything substantive. I'd be surprise if a posting restriction prevented him from doing that.

 

[Riddle]

I don't think that Scumfever has a post restriction that says "You must use a lot of one-liners and say the word fuck in them." However the swearing part is quite possible and wouldn't surprise me at all. Unfortunately this hardly narrows it down at all as to who it could be.

Anyways, when I first read Tom's case I was skeptical, however scumfever's response left a little to be desired. I'd like to continue pressuring him and questioning him and gauge his reactions a little more.

Questions for Jungle:

1) Do you understand why many people think your post was a slip?
2) Why did you respond in the way you did?
3) Do you find your wagoners suspicious?

Actually, everyone can answer the third question if they want. I know I don't find them suspicious.

 

[Riddle]

Lol @ Ronike. I already knew that you hated me though

 

[Ronike]

I don't hate you, its just in this group of players, you happen to be one of the weakest.

 

[Riddle]

That's fine, I don't take any offense or anything. I know I'm new and still improving. I guess I meant that you hate my play, which I don't think you can really deny.

 

[Tom]

Hmm. It's tricky. When I read Scumfever's post where he used the word ****head, I just thought he was going along with the swearing flavour of the game as apparently Bruce Willis says it in like every movie. I forgot that the mafia are ****heads, and people haven't really been calling them that in the thread. I figured he was just saying that if anyone should be policy lynched for not contributing it should be a player worse than Marshy, which Scumfever counts himself as one of.

I wonder if the mafia were more likely to think of themselves as ****heads and notice the use of the word. If so, then I think Tom could be using this chance to take advantage of it while a townie was using it unawares.

When I read a post, I read for everything. I look for flag letters like C, D, T, and W at the start of posts or paragraphs for possible power role breadcrumbing. I look for phrases like "detect, doctored quote/evidence, survive, independently, etc." I examine all capital letters for breadcrumbing, I look at all letters in proximity to punctuation like periods or commas, and I look for anything related to the game in the post (specifically cowboy, ****head, revenge). Sometimes I still miss them and I feel like an idiot. When I do see them however they're rarely wrong. Sometimes they are -- in The Lonely Island mafia, Evil Eye said "the reason why I'm suspecting there is a Traitor is because... I am." I thought this was him telling his mafia that he was their traitor in the middle of a large post. This is basically the only time I've been wrong on SWF though. When it comes to Freudian slips I wasn't wrong with Eor the Rhino and I doubt I'm wrong here. Junglefever specifically called himself a ****head.

This interpretation of Scumfever's post seems weird to me. If you immediately thought ****head=mafia, then "More so than alot of the other ****heads around here" would mean he thought Marshy was mafia--otherwise they wouldn't be 'other' ****heads, they would just be ****heads. I think the use of 'other' here implies that they're ****heads in addition to the current ****head being discussed, which would have been Marshy.

So jumping on this does seem like a stretch to me, and I find Tom's 'right answer' for Scumfever to be one he would never have given because it doesn't make sense.

Hmm. So then Junglefever would be calling Marshy 'another ****head', and then calling himself a ****head. I guess that is something we could pursue later but I really don't think the focus should be on Marshy. Jungle is the one who made the slip, and if we are to act on it, we can choose to act on him calling himself a ****head, or him calling Marshy and himself a ****head. Jungle being a ****head is the common denominator in those so I think we pressure Jungle.

@Riddle #3: No I do not find the wagoners suspicious. I find the wagoners to be myself, Marshy, Mediocre, KevinM... do you see a pattern here? We are all awesome. However, you said that you do not find them suspicious. First of all you are tainting your own question by probing the entire cast for their answer while also providing your own answer, the subconsciously "right answer." That's dumb and I don't want to see you do that again. It negates everything the questions are for. Second of all, Omis is on the wagon and earlier IIRC you had a case against Omis that involved Marshy. Both of them are on the wagon - have your opinions on Omis changed?

 

[Tom]

To reiterate:

ChooFuckinChoo

all aboard the nonstop oneway express to boner town

 

[#HBC | Mac]

It def looked like Jungle has some kind of 'must say **** in every post' restriction.[tho it also seems like alot of us has that]. So reading Jungles post, I didn't see anything weird in it. And even after Tom pointing it out, I didn't really think jungle was suspicious. I didn't even realize that the mafia were called ****heads and i figured most others didn't make that immediate connection either.

Jungle's reaction was totally completely normal and sane. but really, it was unnecessarily overly abrasive. I don't think his abrasive behavior should be excused by a possible post restriction he might have.

also tom, you realize that eor faked that freudian slip just to get someone on his ***. So you shouldn't be using that as basis for why these slip things always work.

 

[Riddle]

@Tom, okay I'll remember that.

And I don't think Omis is specifically scummy for being on the Jungle wagon, however I do think he is scummy for his policy lynch ****.

 

[smashman90]

Hmm, I've been thinking on Omis's Marshy policy lynch. I've kinda wondered if they're in a lyncher/lynchee relationship and the policy lynch was a crappy attempt to lynch Marshy. But then again, if Scumfever's "fuckhead" statement means that he is really a fuckhead then it should mean that Marshy is as well.

As for Scumfever, I am somewhat surprised that he hasn't been defending himself very well against the accusations Tom made. I don't think Scumfever has a post restriction either. I would like to hear more from Scumfever, though.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

if we find a lyncher we lynch/vig them. same for most indies

 

[#HBC | marshy]

are the others on the wagon interpreting scumbagfever's wording as "marshy/scumfever are the same alignment?"

 

[Rici]

Will post some opinions later tonight.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

1) Yeah Riddle I'm not fucking stupid, I understand why people think it's a slip.

2) Look, I was in no way implying that Marshy is a fuckhead in the context of being mafia, nor was I implying that I am. Tom's reasoning is stupid and couldn't hold weight in a fucking puddle. Tom's "right answer" would have never occured in my mind because I never was implying or intending to imply someone was mafia in the context of the game. All that occured to me was Tom twisting my fucking word choice, which I'll admit was bad.

3) yeah, i believe one of them is at least a fuckhead, in the context of this game. From a scum point of view, it would be an easy bandwagon to jump on early and make yourself look good.

Seriously, I ask you all to reread my first post that started this whole fuckin thing. In NO WAY does this statement implicate me, Marshy, Omis, or anyone. All that was stated is that Marshy has been around longer in dgames to fuckin prove his worth in these games, where as others haven't been around as long.

 

[KevinM]

Fuckin I didn't take what Jungle said as a marshy/jungle team, I don't think he's particularly ****ed from Bungle's slip-up. I do however think the slip-up is worthy of paying a lot of attention to. Fuckin the only thing that's on my mind right now though is the fact that we're really tunneling on this one person here and I ain't like that **** at all. I feel like because of that one slip-up most of the things have been forgotten from the past, Omis still isn't sitting right with me, as are a few other posts that seem to have stood out so far. Fuckin the only thing I'm asking is that we weigh all of our options and not get tunneled here.

 

[Omis]

What other things are on your mind besides me? We would love to hear.

 

[KevinM]

Fucker, you honestly have nothing else to comment on beside the fact that I brought you up in my post? Get the Fuck outta here.

 

[Rockin]

are the others on the wagon interpreting scumbagfever's wording as "marshy/scumfever are the same alignment?"

A little bit.

If we lynch Junglefever and he flips mafia, then I'd suggest for the cop (if we even have one) to pay attention to Marshy. If junglefever is town, then there may be more to spotting Mafs then just them saying 'fuck'

Fuckin I didn't take what Jungle said as a marshy/jungle team, I don't think he's particularly ****ed from Bungle's slip-up. I do however think the slip-up is worthy of paying a lot of attention to. Fuckin the only thing that's on my mind right now though is the fact that we're really tunneling on this one person here and I ain't like that **** at all. I feel like because of that one slip-up most of the things have been forgotten from the past, Omis still isn't sitting right with me, as are a few other posts that seem to have stood out so far. Fuckin the only thing I'm asking is that we weigh all of our options and not get tunneled here.

It's not just the slip that people are tunneling on him. It's his responses after Tom pointed that out. All he seemed to be doing is flailing. No attempt at a defense or trying to correct what he meant.

As for Omis, I still say the logic of others frowning on him is stupid. If it was someone with less experience or someone who was more annoying, then others would agree to it. Let me give out a good example. Macman. He's a fairly good player and knows how to contribute at times. However, he's so playful and just seems to joke at the worst times it seems. Or he does stuff that seems scummy. Someone like KevinM want to policy lynch him...where as Tom disagrees and considers him a good player. It's basically Kevin's reasons vs Tom's reasons. One or the other finds him either helpful or unhelpful, which would just boil down to an opinion.

you see how stupid the argument is?

So yeah, just cause one or more of ya think or feel Marshy is awesome or good doesn't mean that it won't annoy/be of some assistance to others like Omis. The whole argument in general is stupid and a deadend to discussion IMO.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

If we lynch Junglefever and he flips mafia, then I'd suggest for the cop (if we even have one) to pay attention to Marshy.

e w

 

[Omis]

Fucker, you honestly have nothing else to comment on beside the fact that I brought you up in my post? Get the Fuck outta here.

Does this help the game or progress anything at all? Maybe you should be the one getting the fuck out of here if you insist on not being useful. You dont just bring up that you have suspicions then fail to say anything anything on them. You know what that is called? Actively not contributing. The very thing you are accusing me off.