Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
=P
Silly Seth.
Silly Seth.
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Jamage
Smash Ace
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Streetgeek Lan starts tonight :D
pressokman
Smash Apprentice
it says there are two dedicated sleeping areas. do most people stay all night or go home in the evening if it quiets down. never been there before and I'm not sure. I'm down to play smash all night if that's the kind of thing this is XD
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Wh1te5had0w and I will be staying up all night to play, most likely 
Melee singles is at 8:00 by the way. We may or may not do doubles, if we do, I can team with you if you want someone decent.
Melee singles is at 8:00 by the way. We may or may not do doubles, if we do, I can team with you if you want someone decent.
pressokman
Smash Apprentice
doubles would be a lot of fun as well as crews if enough people are willing
yes, let's team!
yes, let's team!
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Crews is unlikely, lol. These tournaments are pretty small.
pressokman
Smash Apprentice
that's alright, just playing a lot will be fun. Is there LANing computers with counterstrike source and starcraft 2?
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
There are computers, though I don't know what they have on them.
I only ever play Half Life 2: Deathmatch on them.
I only ever play Half Life 2: Deathmatch on them.
pressokman
Smash Apprentice
great! I'll see everybody there tonight
Luneth
Here is some critique for Grim. Hope you do ok at Robocop.
I hope my efforts arent too wasted but I just watched a random vid and typed up some thoughts.
GRIM v GHOST
Grim:
You lack spacing and timing which can end up in poor execution of attacks/rushes/defensive play
See 0:22 -> you went too far. Its a simple issue but a big issue, Punish with UpB or Smash could have happened but
you ran too far and got to the edge. I think control needs to be tighter in general.
Practice SH airials and Fastfall at peak of Jump and practice dashing precisely as well as pivot grab, which is hard with MK
since he slide so much.
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Do you know if you grab edge, drop off straight away and Nair, you still have invuln frames from edge grab? When edgeguarding
jumping off and on the ledge is good for leaving more options for yourself. Be proactive!
At 0:28 this was an option. Just in case you didnt know
___
You need to be more patient. M2K is the fastest player you'll see. Also most patient. He just stands there letting things
happen, or takes a moment to space pixel perfect. (dont worry bout pixel perfect haha).
See 0:35 - You ran to edge with dash attack; trying to hard to get the attack. Know your timing! How much time you have!
When Ghost does something terribly like that UpB and you can punish hardcore, Dsmash is not a success from you!
You NEED to save your Dsmash for those hard to get kills. It's important to save up Dsmash. In fact never use Dsmash if
opponent under 75%. >=C tilts and other attacks can be used just as well with same frame advantage, as well as more likely
to combo out of them. YET, in this case, you could have charged a Fsmash had you not rushed in, potentially killed Ghost.
___
1:16 - 1:20 Disgusting. You may not see how important this is.
Spotdodge - > Dsmash (hits sheild) -> Dsmash. You were pressured, doubted yourself (no thinking) and Spotdodged.
Then you Dsmashed when Ghost did nothing (lol he bad too) and it hit his sheild. So you Dsmashed again.
This says to me "ahh he's near me im scared! ... get away get away gtfo get awaaaayyyyy"
Does not seem like a player in control
Think about your actions, what the opponent can see in your actions. If he knows you are like this, he's only gonna
get into your head. Compose yourself, and even take more time before using a move, as long as its thought through.
People just gonna bait spotdodges next to them unless you only do like 3-4 per match.
In that situation,you were rushing him. Why spotdodge on a rush? Ghost could have gotten out of that situation easily and
been prepared to counter after your invuln wore off. A planned grab in accordance with what Ghost did would have been fine.
___
Less dashing to edge poorly (1:39)
Less spot dodge->Dsmash (moments leading up to 1:39)
Ghost did not juggle with Uair at oppurtune moments; it didnt seem like it, but you often left yourself vulnerable wasting
jumps above Ghost with no plan, simply making yourself vulnerable. see (1:47). FF air dodge then something aggressive perhaps? Ghost
was waiting when he didnt have to, so perhaps you could bait him then do something? nonetheless what you did shouldnt have worked,
but, not bad i guess
____
1:53
Such poor spacing/thinking from both of you to get that close. If one of you had taken more care in spacing an Ftilt or a surprise SH Dair,
that would have been fine.
___
Your offstage game and especially use of UpB OFFSTAGE was often elaborately planned thought through and that is good.
___
2:27
That Dsmash wouldve killed if it wasnt so diminished.
___
2:30-2:38
If you were playing Afropony, and he was Ghost in this situation he would have gimped you easy peasy.
And vice versa if he were you, he'd have gimped Ghost easy. You both left yourselves very open and better timing and
thinking ahead should have been here. The option of retreat is always there too. Your choice. Ghost should have retreated
imo, coming into a dominant position from a position where he nearly died isnt easy and he had no means to do so really,
although you did give him a chance (which he shouldnt have had) to jump and Uair or UpB or Grab ledge when you used UpB at 2:32
___
2:40 worst planking ive ever seen. So passive, you just flew into a corner. I dont even have critique for that, maybe in
person i MK ditto you and i could help better.
___
Ghost punishes your tentative ways (Spotdodges and unneccesary sheilding) as well as your Dsmash timing (always the same)
and your rushed dash attacks (too obvious about it) on your last stock.
___
You need far more move variety.
---
I dont care if this was a bad match or not or if you dont normally play so aggressive
But there are definitely things I have covered that would run in your game. If you are super positive
that all the things I said you have fixed, then ill see you in the bracket.
Otherwise I advise you practice those things because they are mostly super important.
Especially your character control, both of u bad. Platform cancel more, space SideB so grabs edge instantly or touchs ground,
dont wanna see this free fall animation stupidity
And more precise spacing with character position definitely!
Good Luck Mason!
I hope my efforts arent too wasted but I just watched a random vid and typed up some thoughts.
GRIM v GHOST
Grim:
You lack spacing and timing which can end up in poor execution of attacks/rushes/defensive play
See 0:22 -> you went too far. Its a simple issue but a big issue, Punish with UpB or Smash could have happened but
you ran too far and got to the edge. I think control needs to be tighter in general.
Practice SH airials and Fastfall at peak of Jump and practice dashing precisely as well as pivot grab, which is hard with MK
since he slide so much.
---
Do you know if you grab edge, drop off straight away and Nair, you still have invuln frames from edge grab? When edgeguarding
jumping off and on the ledge is good for leaving more options for yourself. Be proactive!
At 0:28 this was an option. Just in case you didnt know
___
You need to be more patient. M2K is the fastest player you'll see. Also most patient. He just stands there letting things
happen, or takes a moment to space pixel perfect. (dont worry bout pixel perfect haha).
See 0:35 - You ran to edge with dash attack; trying to hard to get the attack. Know your timing! How much time you have!
When Ghost does something terribly like that UpB and you can punish hardcore, Dsmash is not a success from you!
You NEED to save your Dsmash for those hard to get kills. It's important to save up Dsmash. In fact never use Dsmash if
opponent under 75%. >=C tilts and other attacks can be used just as well with same frame advantage, as well as more likely
to combo out of them. YET, in this case, you could have charged a Fsmash had you not rushed in, potentially killed Ghost.
___
1:16 - 1:20 Disgusting. You may not see how important this is.
Spotdodge - > Dsmash (hits sheild) -> Dsmash. You were pressured, doubted yourself (no thinking) and Spotdodged.
Then you Dsmashed when Ghost did nothing (lol he bad too) and it hit his sheild. So you Dsmashed again.
This says to me "ahh he's near me im scared! ... get away get away gtfo get awaaaayyyyy"
Does not seem like a player in control
Think about your actions, what the opponent can see in your actions. If he knows you are like this, he's only gonna
get into your head. Compose yourself, and even take more time before using a move, as long as its thought through.
People just gonna bait spotdodges next to them unless you only do like 3-4 per match.
In that situation,you were rushing him. Why spotdodge on a rush? Ghost could have gotten out of that situation easily and
been prepared to counter after your invuln wore off. A planned grab in accordance with what Ghost did would have been fine.
___
Less dashing to edge poorly (1:39)
Less spot dodge->Dsmash (moments leading up to 1:39)
Ghost did not juggle with Uair at oppurtune moments; it didnt seem like it, but you often left yourself vulnerable wasting
jumps above Ghost with no plan, simply making yourself vulnerable. see (1:47). FF air dodge then something aggressive perhaps? Ghost
was waiting when he didnt have to, so perhaps you could bait him then do something? nonetheless what you did shouldnt have worked,
but, not bad i guess
____
1:53
Such poor spacing/thinking from both of you to get that close. If one of you had taken more care in spacing an Ftilt or a surprise SH Dair,
that would have been fine.
___
Your offstage game and especially use of UpB OFFSTAGE was often elaborately planned thought through and that is good.
___
2:27
That Dsmash wouldve killed if it wasnt so diminished.
___
2:30-2:38
If you were playing Afropony, and he was Ghost in this situation he would have gimped you easy peasy.
And vice versa if he were you, he'd have gimped Ghost easy. You both left yourselves very open and better timing and
thinking ahead should have been here. The option of retreat is always there too. Your choice. Ghost should have retreated
imo, coming into a dominant position from a position where he nearly died isnt easy and he had no means to do so really,
although you did give him a chance (which he shouldnt have had) to jump and Uair or UpB or Grab ledge when you used UpB at 2:32
___
2:40 worst planking ive ever seen. So passive, you just flew into a corner. I dont even have critique for that, maybe in
person i MK ditto you and i could help better.
___
Ghost punishes your tentative ways (Spotdodges and unneccesary sheilding) as well as your Dsmash timing (always the same)
and your rushed dash attacks (too obvious about it) on your last stock.
___
You need far more move variety.
---
I dont care if this was a bad match or not or if you dont normally play so aggressive
But there are definitely things I have covered that would run in your game. If you are super positive
that all the things I said you have fixed, then ill see you in the bracket.
Otherwise I advise you practice those things because they are mostly super important.
Especially your character control, both of u bad. Platform cancel more, space SideB so grabs edge instantly or touchs ground,
dont wanna see this free fall animation stupidity
And more precise spacing with character position definitely!Good Luck Mason!
Nova
Banned via Warnings
I uploaded a couple more matches from last tourney (Ghost V Apollo, Grim V Some random, Aces v me).
Nova
Banned via Warnings
Maybe, I have a game of Poker to play at the Casino shortly but afterward I might go.
Jamage
Smash Ace
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Mason (can't be bothered signing Jamage out): Thanks for the critique Splice, but honestly, that's just an old friendly.
I already know most of the stuff you mentioned, I was just playing on auto-pilot.
I already know most of the stuff you mentioned, I was just playing on auto-pilot.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
It's not that I'm not being receiving, it's that most of the things Splice pointed out are things that I don't normally and currently do anyway.
That isn't to say I learnt nothing from it, though.
Nice meeting you, Eric
Good gamesGot to get more sleep next time, failed at Brawl >_>
Ant1
Smash Ace
Even though i didn't use it, i left my hdmi cable at the lan, dunno why it was out of my bag but it somehow got out.
Nova
Banned via Warnings
I technically should be ranked last imo, all I did was keep your position lol.
My net isn't capped for another 10 gigs (I thought it was capped), so I'll upload the vids soon. Should all be live by midnight (there's not many). Like 1 random tourney set between Ant and W150 and the finals.
Edit: And yeah, Canada boy is great at Melee, you must go to ACL and play actual decent aussies (besides like Dave).
My net isn't capped for another 10 gigs (I thought it was capped), so I'll upload the vids soon. Should all be live by midnight (there's not many). Like 1 random tourney set between Ant and W150 and the finals.
Edit: And yeah, Canada boy is great at Melee, you must go to ACL and play actual decent aussies (besides like Dave).
Ant1
Smash Ace
oh god no, not a vid of me vs josh, i played so **** vs everyone after i beat grim/ghost/whoever used mk vs me on frigate in the final match. Was like using f-airs and all wrong tilts. Shoulda had more than 2 hours sleep.
pressokman
Smash Apprentice
Great meeting all of you and GG's all around I will definitely try to make it to make it to ACL and play all of those other aussies. Looking forward to the SA major as well
I will definitely try to make it to make it to ACL and play all of those other aussies. Looking forward to the SA major as well
zApollo
Smash Ace
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- 839
If I can find accommodation then it's likely.
Jamage
Smash Ace
- Joined
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- Location
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- Jamage007
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- Switch FC
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Decent Lan, not a huge attendance but it was fun. Thanks to all who went.
Pity my matches with Ant and Aces wernt recorded.
Pressokman/Monkeybear: Glad to meet you. Your a chilled dude and a great melee and decent brawl player too.
Ant I have your hdmi cable and Techa I found your xbox headset and have that also.
Hope to see you all at my smash meet/party next weekend.
Pity my matches with Ant and Aces wernt recorded.
Pressokman/Monkeybear: Glad to meet you. Your a chilled dude and a great melee and decent brawl player too.
Ant I have your hdmi cable and Techa I found your xbox headset and have that also.
Hope to see you all at my smash meet/party next weekend.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
I'll be at your party.
And don't worry, I'll be less rude and short with people, I apologize to anyone I insulted/ignored/etc...
I also won't lose matches I'm not supposed to =D
And don't worry, I'll be less rude and short with people, I apologize to anyone I insulted/ignored/etc...
I also won't lose matches I'm not supposed to =D
Jamage
Smash Ace
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Your prize is still with the lan and will be held for you until Streetgeek X.
Sorry dude if I knew you wernt staying I would have found someone to get it for you but I think I was busy at the time with a tourney match or getting things organised so I didnt mean to kinda brush you off.
Nova
Banned via Warnings
Lol you did seem more quiet than usual, but I only saw you for like an hour.
It was rude of you to leave without having more Melee matches with me. :@
@ Monkey, the ONLY match that we had that didn't get an error is Pikachu v Peach, and I'm sure you'll agree with me that I should not upload that... >_>
I wanna get more practice against youuuuuuuuuuuuuu. </3
Nova
Banned via Warnings
Blah blah
Macthes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBOZA1YiZm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-8Ir7PAJt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPYIsk9W1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8CkF38-AAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0WWs0ie0Zg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow2TSS8pqBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95LulyiHzEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg54yZ-63Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHOBYlpW5ZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0RWAwFA_o
AND!
Some random WWF stuff I put together from the first half of 1998: :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMgl7j0DnkY
Macthes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBOZA1YiZm0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-8Ir7PAJt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPYIsk9W1U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8CkF38-AAg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0WWs0ie0Zg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow2TSS8pqBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95LulyiHzEw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg54yZ-63Ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHOBYlpW5ZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0RWAwFA_o
AND!
Some random WWF stuff I put together from the first half of 1998: :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMgl7j0DnkY
SethT
Smash Ace
- Joined
- Jul 21, 2010
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- 627
lah~ I apologize to the people who saw me rage (mainly Josh (W150) and Domo) was quite the unnecessary and I feel you guys really didn't need to see that.
Lesson 1. Seth needs sleep before being able to play Brawl competitively + I get cranky
Monkeybear: Awesome guy, enjoyed talking about miscellaneous things and your tech skills in melee make me cry myself to sleep... and hell I don't even play the game :D
Have to vs you in CS:S or HoN sometime :3
Good to see everyone else of course,
Grim your Jiggly is still mean FMLLLLLL
Jamage, your D3 is stupid, stop killing me with gordoes (but srsly, its getting much better, I enjoy playing it.)
Apollo i'm sad that I didn't get any friendlies with you but a 63min final demanded your attention. Ah well, good to see you well :D
W150 for the love of god your falco is good, I'll enjoy beating it next time I vs you ;D (or try v_v
Ghost, **** man your good at Halo, also I like the looks of your diddy, ohsodeadly.
Domo, enjoy learning the GnW matchup :D no srsly good matches, your getting fking better. My god I'm teaching you too quickly. gg's
Nova, Same as Apollo, although I was hyped to play your snake, damn.
Gears, learn a high tier :3 good friendlies
Eagle, the **** where did you go. I saw you once, then you poofed like puff the magic dragon.
Techa, sorry about borderlands, and the fact that i didn't get to give you that friendly. If you go to Jamages, i'll defs be there.
Lesson 1. Seth needs sleep before being able to play Brawl competitively + I get cranky
Monkeybear: Awesome guy, enjoyed talking about miscellaneous things and your tech skills in melee make me cry myself to sleep... and hell I don't even play the game :D
Have to vs you in CS:S or HoN sometime :3
Good to see everyone else of course,
Grim your Jiggly is still mean FMLLLLLL
Jamage, your D3 is stupid, stop killing me with gordoes (but srsly, its getting much better, I enjoy playing it.)
Apollo i'm sad that I didn't get any friendlies with you but a 63min final demanded your attention. Ah well, good to see you well :D
W150 for the love of god your falco is good, I'll enjoy beating it next time I vs you ;D (or try v_v
Ghost, **** man your good at Halo, also I like the looks of your diddy, ohsodeadly.
Domo, enjoy learning the GnW matchup :D no srsly good matches, your getting fking better. My god I'm teaching you too quickly. gg's
Nova, Same as Apollo, although I was hyped to play your snake, damn.
Gears, learn a high tier :3 good friendlies
Eagle, the **** where did you go. I saw you once, then you poofed like puff the magic dragon.
Techa, sorry about borderlands, and the fact that i didn't get to give you that friendly. If you go to Jamages, i'll defs be there.