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Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

zapp brannigan

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Yes, but I want to see what you see. Why not even try? It's not like I'm that stubborn. Who says I'm stubborn? Fools I say.

Ok, really? Well I have a null on him, it would help if you could even help me see the town tell you saw. I'm a very open guy you know.
 

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Xoni why is Swiss making an appeal to credibility here? Or better said, why is he attempting to discredit my ability all of the sudden?

Hint: #277
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA


OH GOD.

Genuinely close to replacing out, I actually cannot fathom the levels of dumb **** spewing from you guys.
 

zapp brannigan

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(And I mean I saw you gauge him, and you got a town tell out of it. I want you to show me what was townie about that tell, because I don't understand it ;-; )
 

S-Tier

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Yes, but I want to see what you see. Why not even try? It's not like I'm that stubborn. Who says I'm stubborn? Fools I say.

Ok, really? Well I have a null on him, it would help if you could even help me see the town tell you saw. I'm a very open guy you know.
This:
Except you're his *****.
Hey that really hurt my feelings :c
I had a similar reaction in SF when Kuz and I were going back and forth. As scum I feel he would have had his walls up and made some defensive action against this. This is coupled along with him playing in an easygoing matter and how active he has been in keeping up. Along with his town read from my claim. He didn't wait for other's to react before he gave an opinion on it. Alright no more asking me about these kind of things ok?
 

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1. Spidermang (Raz/Xonar) -
2. dtjglyphmoney - Have we played before?
3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account/AM (Gorf/WashedLaundry) - Is this now AM?
4. The Account With No Name (Guus/John2k4) - Guus, when have we played?
5. JTB - 'Sup, follow me.
6. Soup~ - Town?
7. Allegory - I like you have we played before?
8. giraffelasergun - Bad.
9. Dabunz - Less bad.
10. J - afk?
11. Zapp Brannigan - Vanz reign Ran in more.
12. S-Tier (Seph/Zen) - Bad, scum lean.
13. Swiss - Close to replacing

Thoughts. Nothing major.

Did not realise there were so many hydras before joining. Not enjoying this game in the slightest.
 

S-Tier

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Replace out Swiss. You're obviously town. If you aren't able to read this game, you're just wasting one of our slots.
 
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Interesting string of events to say the least.
How do you know the 2nd quote was what triggered the change and not this one:

@Zapp. We are. Let's be best friends.
@JTB: What are your thoughts on the spidey + Swiss ordeal? What is your read on both?
@Swiss: We aren't tagging.
What, do you want me to claim scum? lol

Nah I know you mean VT.
On JTB:
A non-presence nutbuster so far.
Thoughts on him, JTB?
Not until you answer the first part of my post.
I mean, Zapp just asked for his thoughts on someone, after which JTB held his information hostage until Zapp gave his. It's nice that you want Zapp to answer your question but withholding information for no apparent reason other than getting others to go first is stupid.

Other than that, JTB hasn't said anything ABOUT other players, just asking questions that eventually lead to nothing other than us seeing him ask a question.

What about you, ST, ready to explain what you saw here?:
Vote: JTB

Oh man, Swiss please tell me you what I see.
Because I don't see it (I think)
 

Swiss

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Seriously guys.

This game has been reduced to bickering for no reason, pathetic gambits and **** slinging.

Tier, you need to learn to watch your fkin mouth. I can read better than almost any other player on this site, but I need to know WHO POSTED WHAT. You think I got successful by accident? Give me what I need you ignorant, thick headed piece of ****in ****.
 

zapp brannigan

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1. Spidermang (Raz/Xonar) -
2. dtjglyphmoney - Have we played before?
3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account/AM (Gorf/WashedLaundry) - Is this now AM?
4. The Account With No Name (Guus/John2k4) - Guus, when have we played?
5. JTB - 'Sup, follow me.
6. Soup~ - Town?
7. Allegory - I like you have we played before?
8. giraffelasergun - Bad.
9. Dabunz - Less bad.
10. J - afk?
11. Zapp Brannigan - Vanz reign Ran in more.
12. S-Tier (Seph/Zen) - Bad, scum lean.
13. Swiss - Close to replacing

Thoughts. Nothing major.

Did not realise there were so many hydras before joining. Not enjoying this game in the slightest.
Look man. I like you as a player. So if you do replace out, at least play with me an a small(er) game sometime. I promise I'll be non hydra. :cool:

I would have hoped to see more from you. I really liked your play in SF. That, I would get a SwissTown read. Luckily the vand side has a gut town read so i'm leaving it to him.
 

S-Tier

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Swiss no one is bickering and there haven't been any gambits. At least I haven't caught on to them if there have been.
 

Swiss

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Ran I am happy to play this game, but the secrecy of hydras makes my read method much harder. Add that to the fact people get 10X cockier and instantly think they're good because they have a hydra partner and the game becomes a ****storm.

Tier, you...

I'm defeated, utterly defeated. I feel like I'm against a brick wall where no logic or reasoning will ever penetrate. Have you been reading this thread?
 

zapp brannigan

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Hmmm, don't you think there could be any other reasons for the hydra's to say no to your plan? I never liked your plan, but that's just my belief. I think AM had a good reason to actually say no to you as well.

But I feel that a hydra as scum could just say no to you just to get town points. Don't you think?

So, what do you think of S-tier saying he wouldn't tag?
 

S-Tier

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Die Pile (ie where scum resides)
5. JTB
1. Spidermang (Raz/Xonar)
8. giraffelasergun
2. dtjglyphmoney
10. J
9. Dabunz


Live Pile (ie who scum will be night killing.)
13. Swiss
3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account/AM (Gorf/WashedLaundry)
4. The Account With No Name (Guus/John2k4)
6. Soup~
7. Allegory
11. Zapp Brannigan
12. S-Tier (Seph/Zen)

I am out for now. No name could possibly move. Possibly. I like this for now though. I'll chime in here and there, but at this point I am ready for the day end, so I will mostly be waiting for that. If Glyph and J post their way out (or into staying in) the die pile, we will be in a good situation.
 
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So? What is wrong with asking about town reads you already put up in thread?
I never said it was wrong to ask, it's just that I'm lazy and don't want to spell it out every time. Do you ever look and wonder "where did that town read come from?" and then think for yourself.
I don't see why you are basing your read on his first post, and not even looking at the rest of his play. :glare:
Claiming VT off the bat, he's STUCK to that claim. If he were scum and the fires of a lynch were licking his heels, he'd rather have a claim ready to save his ***, wouldn't you think? "But can't scum do that too?" Yes scum can do everything a townie does. Doesn't mean that it's not very risky.
I mean, maybe it's not a town-tell, it just goes to show he's not scum. Indy is still possible but that's for D2.

The rest of his play hasn't shown anything for me to think otherwise.
 

zapp brannigan

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If you have a legit reason for a town read then you should have no trouble explaining it right off the bat.

Claiming VT is safe. Scum CAN do that. Even so, it's wifom and I'm not looking at that.

Did you even see that he would be fine on taking you off the 'to be nk'd' list without even giving a reason?

He even tried to pin a scum tell on Swiss for some pure bull****. He isn't even doing anything.

He was afraid to avoid my answers because he knows that if he were to stay quiet that I'd suspect him, and I do.
 

zapp brannigan

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I also don't like how he backpeddaled with Swiss. He just said "Yeah you're obvtown" most likely because of how Swiss reacted towards him. I didn't think that was grounds for him to change his read. Seemed forced.
 
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If you have a legit reason for a town read then you should have no trouble explaining it right off the bat.

Claiming VT is safe. Scum CAN do that. Even so, it's wifom and I'm not looking at that.
Right, I am looking at it though and I see the way he claimed as a town-tell
Did you even see that he would be fine on taking you off the 'to be nk'd' list without even giving a reason?
Yes, but I don't need to know what everyone thinks of me all the time. It's fine if he wants to move me without providing reasoning. The moment he tries to lynch me without a good reason though, I will care.
He even tried to pin a scum tell on Swiss for some pure bull****. He isn't even doing anything.

He was afraid to avoid my answers because he knows that if he were to stay quiet that I'd suspect him, and I do.
I've noticed these, but pinning a bull**** scum read on Swiss is hardly something that shows he's not town.
Not answering you was kinda eh, because I can understand why you don't want to answer (if you're lazy), but still eh.

And on his 180 on Swiss; Reads change a lot, especially D1. But there seems to be no harm in asking.

S-Tier, why the change from Swiss making scumslips etc. to obvtown?
 
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Lol I thought your other half just liked my squirtlesquad.jpg ; - o

Also, in Ran's defence, it's curious that you call out ran on not scumhunting here, when the evidence for your argument is just one post. If you're trying to label someone as "not scumhunting" shouldn't you be referencing their entire play?
I'm not saying his ENTIRE play wasn't scumhunting, but that Swiss thing seemed, and still does seem, mad opportunistic.
 
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Alright. I have a question AM. You realized you didn't like Daboozi for not voting Spidey when he had reasons to. Why haven't you given an opinion on him when you finished your catch up?
Honestly I forgot, I guess due to the fact that nothing else in his play stood out as inherently scummy for me, but I DO wanna answer for it cuz what the eff.
 
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Well I don't see how you put No Name in that pile when you were calling him out as being swiss's *****. I thought you were suspecting him.

AM Made some good points on the hydra thing, read on him is tentantive (waiting on what he does after our interaction up in this page, but I didn't like that he focused solely on my Swiss vote and nothing else) So I was wondering if you had an opinion on that.

Jtb is scummy. He is very sheepy. Like he was appealing to consensus when he voted me by saying "This is correct, yes?" He doesn't really look for scum, he just bandwagons. All dai. I did like his vote on Dabuz tho.

Null on No Name.
I'm not solely focused on the Swiss vote, that's what stood out O.o. I mean unless you want me to go through every part of your play and say that I don't necessarily get an alignment tell from it than okay...?
 
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And the rest died to skimming.

To clarify, if you've yet to realize it Zap: No, your Swiss vote ISN'T the only thing that you've done, but it's the only thing I have concerns about.
 

zapp brannigan

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Yeh, we should be. My mistake. That random Swiss vote was really bad, glad I got answers for it.
Ok, here you post that you made a mistake, yet then you still say that you were looking at my whole play. What is the underlined referring to then if that was the case?

You also say that I'm scummy because of me being 'purposely' stupid, yet when I ask you to go into it, you don't. It's like you want me to seem scummy, and you don't seem to care about my thoughts on my own 'stupidity'.
 
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And then in the above post I say that looking at your whole play, the Swiss vote is the only thing that gets me in a tizzy. EVERYTHING else I don't really have any qualms with. But the whole opportunistic jump on Swiss for voting you for not tagging posts I didn't like. Is this computing?

I don't remember saying you're PURPOSELY being stupid, and if I did I didn't mean it. But you ARE showing signs of old Ran, which is why I'm forced to put you as dumb or scum.

Before calling me out on anything, tell me if you have confusions on what I'm saying. This is something I want done for the rest of the Day, and possibly, rest of the game please.
 
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