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Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

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6. Soup~ (6) AM, Zapp, S-Tier, TAWNN, J, Glyph
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Not voting - GLG, Dabuz, Swiss,

A lynch has been reached!

Absolutely no more posting. This game is in a suspended state until the flip.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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The elephant in the closet had been dealt with already. Swiss was dead and gone, so what threat could possibly remain? Well, it became quickly obvious because the "threat" (if you could call it that) made itself apparent quickly. Ryker quickly isolated the foreign agent and disposed of him with trademark ease.

"No! My dream! I thought I could finally take you for sure, but the colors. The colors!!!!!"


Soup, ChiboSempai - Mafia Color Afficianado has been lynched.

Silly Chibo, your time is up, but all is still not well.

Night 2 is go. Deadline is set for April 17th at 11:59 CST.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Ryker slept well that night and in the morning, there were no more unpleasant surprises.

No one died.

Deadline is set for April 25th at 11:59 CST.
 

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I had a dream that Allegory died, guess that was wrong. Could have just been a representation of him replacing out. Also had a dream that Ryker and Laundry were in my dorm. Laundry playing this pokemon thing. Ryker watching this telly tubby-like kid show.
 
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Just finished reading posts 1-39. I find it odd that Spidermang comments on his first game with Swiss in his 12, I guess it shows that Swiss is "Famous" to some extent, maybe scary would be a better word considering Xonar's 12. He then asks for Swiss's opinion on a couple players in his 21. Why wouldn't he want to ask these questions to someone he has played with and is familiar with? Considering he just goes for voting Swiss in his 32 and then he pushes in his 36, it looks like he is hunting anti-town players ATM. I don't think Spidermang is reading intentions or thinking his posts through so I do not like him.

Swiss is null to me, this is just how he plays lol.

This has A LOT of smack against Spidermang. Like, from a noob's perspective, finding this would make him my top scum pick, ergo, throwing my vote on em (and obtw iirc his vote wasn't anywhere at the time). But, he goes ahead and just lets that linger, not doing ANYTHING about it afterward. It's incredibly safe to do if you ask me. Going through scumdabuz' head, it's a perfect situation if he's lynched or if he's not. If so, dabuz has that and says that he felt that suspicion from way back when. If not, he can ignore it and carry on.

Dabuz said:
It matters because its an odd person to pose such a question to. If Xonar wants info on certain players, it makes more sense to ask someone he has played with and understands. I don't know what is going on in his mind that makes Swiss the first person he wants to ask.

Nothing is inherently wrong with pushing anti-town, I just don't like how hard he is pushing in this instance. After reading 47-62, it looks like Xonar just...does this kind of stuff.
More reason to vote Xonar, yet he's so timid to do it...?

And then his 131 is just him trying to... pull back from all that he said by brushing it off and saying it's how Xonar plays when, if that was the case, it'd have been apparent from the beginning. It's quite an awkward back pedal if you ask me.

Dabuz said:
@JTB: Your votes are very loose. You vote TAWNN in your 135, vote zap in your 144, you vote me in your 197. What do YOU think of S-Tier claiming?
MAN is he quick to jump the gun on JTB (confirmed town) for voting loosely... when his vote's still nowhere...? Seriously that's not even an argument. Sure, JTB's vote didn't have much to go off of since it was about dabuz' commenting on few random things, but AT LEAST HE'S USING HIS VOTE... Oh and plus let's look at who dabuz has attacked so far: Spider (confirmed scum) and JTB (confirmed town). Bus + easy target much?

Dabuz said:
I disliked Spidey's play up to that point, but I didn't have a scum read on him.
Must not have seen this at the time. But still that's bullshiz.

dabuz said:
I don't see a S-Tier lynch happening toDay.

unvote

I would like to see a J lynch

Vote: J
S Tier said:
Why would you switch from one lynch that isn't happening to another lynch that isn't happening. It looks like a spidey lynch at this point dabuz so that's where you vote should be.

Unless you want to join me on JTB. We wont have to worry about a replacement if we just lynch him.

@J you said you're fine with switching to JTB. Will you do this with me?
Dabuz said:
J lynch doesn't look completely out of the realm of possiblity.

I don't feel comfortable with a Spidey lynch. JTB lynch is fine with me however.

unvote
vote: JTB
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

I'm not digging this at all. He goes from S Tier to J since the S Tier lynch wasn't gonna happen, and then when told the J lynch wasn't gonna pull through, he goes with JTB when offered either of JTB or Spidey. No real justification as to why JTB > Spidey, hell, I haven't even seen any real reasoning for his JTB hate during this reread, just that

dabuz said:
Regarding Spidey, I can't get any read on him because his early game can be interpreted so many ways.
The vagueness and the ability to go down any avenue with this statement haunts me. I can't stand it, and plus like I said he's got the option of one or the other, so he goes with the (obtw town) easier option, for nothing else but a cop out.

dabuz said:
The paragraphs on Spidey look opportunistic because Spidey had a bad early game, and when he came back for a few posts, it was hardly noticeable, meaning Spidey is an easy target. Spidey probably won't bother responding because he is inactive so it's a sly move to go with the popular wagon.
YOU DID THE SAME THING EARLY GAME BRO, AND PLUS, IT'S STILL SCUMMY. He keeps saying that spidey had a bad early game, but refuses to outright call him scummy. This is CONSISTENT behaviour.

dabuz said:
Not sure whether to believe it. If we lynch JTB and he flips town, then I think it shows S-Tier is scum. If JTB flips scum on lynch, S-Tier can still be scum but it is more likely not a gambit and S-Tier is town.
-insert hurr durr pic here-

And then in pg 22 he gets mad defensive and edgy when people start to hate on Soup.

Oh that's the chainsaw LOL.

dabuz said:
Re-reading, I can see why there is Soup hate. Soup for me has been meh this whole game, so I don't mind seeing him go. However, I still want a J lynch.
Woah woah woah there slow down big boy that goes against what you said earlier about not wanting to see em go and shii.

And then I got lazy.

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That is me copy pasting EVERYTHING that I compiled regarding Dabuz last Night from me and Laundry's hydra QT. Seriously, Dabuz fits like a puzzle, and he HAS to go. Simply said, let's go go go. I'm curious to hear explanation for both Ranmaru on glg rather than others and Inferno on S Tier.
 
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I like this direction of Dabuz. What I said on him YesterDay still stands, for me. It's quite late, but I'll look at how he interacted with both Soup and Spidey tomorrow.
 

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Out of curiosity, are you dumb? There's absolutely no point in you not voting if you already think he is scum. Your #1659 is such crap.
 

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Get out of here with that BS. You're trying to come up with a reason to justify your vote which is so fake.

If you were going to use connections as justification as you said in #1658 how would AM already doing so at all make your reasoning less justifiable and need to look for something else to justify your vote? Quit being dam scum and vote. You're just making yourself look bad and we don't need that.
 

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Gorf thank you for saving me from actually having to read anything again

vote: Dabuz
 

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I voted glg because he was avoiding the soup wagon and tried to deflect to us without even a valid reason. I felt he used the hydra confliction to fake a reason. Its slight tho.

vote: dabuz

I like that direction too

:phone:
 

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Not from what I read...? Why does that matter and, again, why STier?
I think Dabuz not voting either is stronger evidence and would convince me even more to vote Dabuz.

I'm making a long-story short on S-Tier for now. If you guys want me to make a case I will, but with Dabuz currently on the hot seat I was planning on waiting. I read D1 and skimmed D2 because D2 looked like everyone unanimously wanting Soup lynched. But all in all I saw his play as very grimy. I don't care what reason he had for it but he was deflecting questions asked at him left and right and played very anti-town overall. On top of that look at who died N1. Red Ryu, a vigilante who lost his ability to shoot if he shot town. First of all, Red Ryu as a player nor his role was warranted for scum to want to kill him immediately and his play gave me a slight town lean at best. There were stronger and townier players than him. The only reason to kill him would be because scum was afraid that he would shoot right. After Shining Force 2 mafia, RR developed a personal vendetta against Zen and I feel like RR would've definitely shot him personally. Especially with S-Tier's daycop gambit.

As I said, if you want me to form a case on S-Tier I will, but for now I wanna see what's gonna happen to Dabuz. I originally thought of him as scummy for not voting Spidermang and his interaction with him, but I felt some honest posts come from him and I'm currently on the fence.
 

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Inferno. Stier is town. Vote dabuz. He was scum trying to decide which wagon would benefit his team.

You dont know who rr would have shot so stop trying to use nk wifom to suspect people.

:phone:
 

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That reminds me, do we KNOW RR was vig? Or is that just 'his flavor sounds like a vig kind of'
 
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That reminds me, do we KNOW RR was vig? Or is that just 'his flavor sounds like a vig kind of'
From both his claim and the flip, I'd say he was some kind of town Vig.

I'm Ryker, the Violinist of the Ballistic Serenade.

I'm a vig that loses it's powers if I shoot town.

idk if he crumbed it or not.

[collapse=Flip]The night was cold and Ryker, the Vigilante of Justice, stood alone near the fire. He was playing a melancholy song that matched the rain outside his window when suddenly someone burst through his door. The visitor had a gun in hand and it was pointed right at him. Understanding the implications, Ryker asked simply to be allowed to return his violin to its case. He moved slowly as he opened the case and then quickly as he snatched the P90 from inside, however, his age showed in that instant. Before he could bring his trusted weapon to bear, the intruder pulled the trigger and everything went black. The only sound left to be heard that night were the slam of the door and the shattering of the violin as it found its way to the floor.


Red Ryu - Ryker, the Violinist in the Ballistic Serenade, has been killed.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is set for 4/17 at 11:59 CST.[/collapse]
 

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This has A LOT of smack against Spidermang. Like, from a noob's perspective, finding this would make him my top scum pick, ergo, throwing my vote on em (and obtw iirc his vote wasn't anywhere at the time). But, he goes ahead and just lets that linger, not doing ANYTHING about it afterward. It's incredibly safe to do if you ask me. Going through scumdabuz' head, it's a perfect situation if he's lynched or if he's not. If so, dabuz has that and says that he felt that suspicion from way back when. If not, he can ignore it and carry on.
Nice point, except you're wrong. First of all, I'm not a noob, just because Spidey played bad, doesn't give me reason to auto-assume scum. Secondly, I did not ignore Spidey. Adding to that, your last point is completely wrong because when the Spidey lynch was most likely going to happen, I said I don't feel comfortable with his lynch and I did not say anything like "oh, I felt suspicious" after he flipped scum.

More reason to vote Xonar, yet he's so timid to do it...?
Timid? I don't like to throw out my vote often.

And then his 131 is just him trying to... pull back from all that he said by brushing it off and saying it's how Xonar plays when, if that was the case, it'd have been apparent from the beginning. It's quite an awkward back pedal if you ask me.
It became apparent to me at that time that Xonar just plays the way he did in his early posts, giving me reason to not care.


MAN is he quick to jump the gun on JTB (confirmed town) for voting loosely... when his vote's still nowhere...? Seriously that's not even an argument. Sure, JTB's vote didn't have much to go off of since it was about dabuz' commenting on few random things, but AT LEAST HE'S USING HIS VOTE... Oh and plus let's look at who dabuz has attacked so far: Spider (confirmed scum) and JTB (confirmed town). Bus + easy target much?
Coincidence. Good point, but pure coincidence.

Must not have seen this at the time. But still that's bullshiz.
OK, fair enough. I see what's wrong with my statement.


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

I'm not digging this at all. He goes from S Tier to J since the S Tier lynch wasn't gonna happen, and then when told the J lynch wasn't gonna pull through, he goes with JTB when offered either of JTB or Spidey. No real justification as to why JTB > Spidey, hell, I haven't even seen any real reasoning for his JTB hate during this reread, just that
So? I went in order of most likely to be scum IMO at the time. Look at my posts better, IIRC I mentioned why I don't like JTB.

The vagueness and the ability to go down any avenue with this statement haunts me. I can't stand it, and plus like I said he's got the option of one or the other, so he goes with the (obtw town) easier option, for nothing else but a cop out.
And I still stand by my statement.

YOU DID THE SAME THING EARLY GAME BRO, AND PLUS, IT'S STILL SCUMMY. He keeps saying that spidey had a bad early game, but refuses to outright call him scummy. This is CONSISTENT behaviour.
Isn't it a town tell that I keep a consistent opinion regarding Spidey, even if it isn't the best of opinions?

-insert hurr durr pic here-

And then in pg 22 he gets mad defensive and edgy when people start to hate on Soup.

Oh that's the chainsaw LOL.
Meta as the basis for a case is not convincing nor a good case IMO. If disagreeing with the reasons behind bad case is grounds for lynching, then just lynch me already.

Woah woah woah there slow down big boy that goes against what you said earlier about not wanting to see em go and shii.

And then I got lazy.
Ok? I re-read and decided that I don't mind seeing him go.



Where is the connection that shows me busing either of them once the lynch was close to happening?

Or

Where am I hard defending either player and not the reasoning that surrounds them?

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That is me copy pasting EVERYTHING that I compiled regarding Dabuz last Night from me and Laundry's hydra QT. Seriously, Dabuz fits like a puzzle, and he HAS to go. Simply said, let's go go go. I'm curious to hear explanation for both Ranmaru on glg rather than others and Inferno on S Tier.[/QUOTE]


@Glyph: You should have caught up with this game by now, what in AM's case do you agree with and why?

Why is no one looking at S-Tier? Day 1 he was defending Spidey and yesterDay he was trying to detract a vote from Soup onto me. *Sigh* I really hope someone remembers this when I get lynched.

@TAWNN: Your 1396 shows a lot of inability to understand any points I am making.

BTW, am I at L-1 yet?
 

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Should have, and yet have not. I live in the moment Dabuz. And all of it? Is all of it an acceptable answer? Hell I could actually take apart your 'defense' you just posted myself, since most of it is 'well yeah but ur wrong'. Especially a fan of the part where you try to say something you did was a town tell. You don't get to do that.

Not even in the LAND OF IMAGINARY NUMBERS, WHERE EE SOUNDS LIKE ROCKIN AND ROCKIN IS CONFIDENT IN HIS SEXUALITY OOOOOOOOH
 
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