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Ryker Mafia Is Over: Ryker Always Wins

Dabuz

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Why does it matter if he asked Swiss or not?
What is wrong with pressuring someone that is being anti-town?

So you are going to give Swiss a pass because of how he plays? You aren't even going to look at his actions?
It matters because its an odd person to pose such a question to. If Xonar wants info on certain players, it makes more sense to ask someone he has played with and understands. I don't know what is going on in his mind that makes Swiss the first person he wants to ask.

Nothing is inherently wrong with pushing anti-town, I just don't like how hard he is pushing in this instance. After reading 47-62, it looks like Xonar just...does this kind of stuff.

When Swiss has something to look at, I will look at it. Right now he is null.

Note: Finished re-reading up to 62.
 

zapp brannigan

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I don't like tagging posts because then I'm not being a hydra. I like to be united. Sure, if someone wonders if a post comes from me or not, ask and I'll answer. But I don't tag because I don't need to. Van and me would discuss our reads and then we'd go from there.

I don't see how someone can't read intent from this hydra if we don't tag.
 

Spidermang

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I don't like tagging posts because then I'm not being a hydra. I like to be united. Sure, if someone wonders if a post comes from me or not, ask and I'll answer. But I don't tag because I don't need to. Van and me would discuss our reads and then we'd go from there.

I don't see how someone can't read intent from this hydra if we don't tag.
Those aren't reasons, those are cop-outs.

Dabuz said:
I don't know what is going on in his mind that makes Swiss the first person he wants to ask.
Maybe that Swiss is a good player and I think he has a realistic view of how good people are on these boards?
Just maybe.

Dabuz said:
After reading 47-62, it looks like Xonar just...does this kind of stuff.
You could not possibly mean that demanding answers is part of my playstyle?
You could not possibly mean that it was page 1 and page 2 where there was hardly anything to go off of? (it's still only page 4)
You could not possibly mean that it's legit to want to acquire knowledge?

Read up. Then post again when you're fully caught up.

 

zapp brannigan

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It matters because its an odd person to pose such a question to. If Xonar wants info on certain players, it makes more sense to ask someone he has played with and understands. I don't know what is going on in his mind that makes Swiss the first person he wants to ask.

Nothing is inherently wrong with pushing anti-town, I just don't like how hard he is pushing in this instance. After reading 47-62, it looks like Xonar just...does this kind of stuff.

When Swiss has something to look at, I will look at it. Right now he is null.

Note: Finished re-reading up to 62.
... That doesn't matter. He can ask anyone. It's not odd at all.

Nothing wrong with pushing aggressively either.

It feels like you are just trying to make Spidey look odd, and I don't like that.

Vote: Dabuz
 

Gova

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1. Spidermang ()
2. dtjglyphmoney ()
3. Gorf's Fav Hydra Account ()
4. The Account With No Name ()
5. JTB ()
6. Soup~ ()
7. Allegory ()
8. giraffelasergun ()
9. Dabunz (1) Zapp
10. J ()
11. Zapp Brannigan (2) Swiss, Spidermang
12. S-Tier ()
13. Swiss ()

Not voting - Glyph, Gorf, TAWNN,JTB,Soup, Allegory, GLG, J, Dabunz, S-Tier

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is April 6th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Ran, you make my life difficult.

With regret;

Vote: Zap

I will of course remove my vote when he plays to town motives (or if Vanz helps us out).

Until hydras can be read as individuals I'll not be doing anything other than prod dodging. I am serious in this.
Vote: Swiss

I thought you would do something like that, but I'm not going to tag my posts, and that isn't worthy of a vote.
Vote: Zapp
 

Dabuz

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Maybe that Swiss is a good player and I think he has a realistic view of how good people are on these boards?
Just maybe.
You haven't seen Swiss play according to your 80.

You could not possibly mean that demanding answers is part of my playstyle?
You could not possibly mean that it was page 1 and page 2 where there was hardly anything to go off of? (it's still only page 4)
You could not possibly mean that it's legit to want to acquire knowledge?

Read up. Then post again when you're fully caught up.

Oh, you're right on all of those, I just thought the push was a bit hard for not answering a question. It seems according to 47-62 that pushing super hard is just how you play, so its not anything to judge off of.

... That doesn't matter. He can ask anyone. It's not odd at all.

Nothing wrong with pushing aggressively either.

It feels like you are just trying to make Spidey look odd, and I don't like that.

Vote: Dabuz
It is odd, there HAS to be reasoning

There is a difference between a strong push and too strong of a push. In Spidey's (well Xonar's) case, this seems to be just how he plays.

Ok.

(Last post before this was 128)
 
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Man I'm zetta mad that our main accounts didn't get the PM >:|

But yea if worst comes to worst I'll be reading this and catching up later tonight.
 

JTB

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Swiss, how mad are you that I got dayvig and you didn't?
 

JTB

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Vote: The Account with No Name

Smashing.
 
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What about this;

you discuss things with your hydra partner before posting. I don't want you to throw out dumb **** then go all like "hurhur hydra john" because that's typically guus, lol.
Nah, **** you. I've barely consulted with Gorf and I'll let you know Soup's looking good already. You don't get to decide what hydras can and can't do. If he pulls hydra johns later, it's his fault.
 
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No, he has to work with me in this situation. I'm stubborn too.

Hell, you played with me in Math Blasters. You know how it goes. I get what I want.
Not if you're doing dumb **** and putting town in bad positions to start the game. It worked in Math Blasters because you could do it well on a newbie who didn't know better. You're not going to get similar reactions from Swiss, who knows damn well what you're doing and will call your **** every ****ing time.

So why don't you try a more fruitful route, 'k?

Also, speaking of Math Blasters, THAT'S NOT OVER YET. Shut up about it.
 

JTB

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Vote: Stupid Sexy Zapp

This is correct, yes?
 
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Your vote on Spidey is stupid. You seem to be voting on sides, and nothing is wrong with Spidey pressuring Swiss to answer his questions. I think they are very good questions too.
Unless I'm missing something, the question he asked Swiss was about two players Spidermang has had little interaction with. Unless I'm wrong, that's a small thing to get into a huge gusto about. You'd have to seriously back it up with implications of how that's telling of Swiss' alignment for me to read it as anything more than Xonar trying to make Swiss his ***** and failing pretty bad at it.
 

JTB

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Because you are ignoring a request that would make it easier to read your slot just because you can. Signing "Ran" at the end of a post literally takes no work at all, yet you rather make it difficult for the rest of town by not doing so.

I don't give a **** if you are a hydra, you are being anti-town and I don't like it.
 
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Because you are ignoring a request that would make it easier to read your slot just because you can. Signing "Ran" at the end of a post literally takes no work at all, yet you rather make it difficult for the rest of town by not doing so.

I don't give a **** if you are a hydra, you are being anti-town and I don't like it.
Who the **** deigned this rule? Letting you know who's talking at each point of the hydra is completely breaking the point of hydras in the first place.
 
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**** that noise, Swiss. You play in a hydra that constantly makes a point to try to hide who's posting at all times. Why the **** are you making others tell you who's posting at all times?
 

JTB

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Ran, now talk to me about Swiss and Spidey butting heads in the first couple pages. Is their confrontation any indication of either's alignment?

And how is Swiss scum? Or are you just omgus'ing?
 

zapp brannigan

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Unless I'm missing something, the question he asked Swiss was about two players Spidermang has had little interaction with. Unless I'm wrong, that's a small thing to get into a huge gusto about. You'd have to seriously back it up with implications of how that's telling of Swiss' alignment for me to read it as anything more than Xonar trying to make Swiss his ***** and failing pretty bad at it.
I just thought of it as him asking someone about people he hasn't played with before. I liked that because I generally do the same thing, rather with RVS votes.

Because you are ignoring a request that would make it easier to read your slot just because you can. Signing "Ran" at the end of a post literally takes no work at all, yet you rather make it difficult for the rest of town by not doing so.

I don't give a **** if you are a hydra, you are being anti-town and I don't like it.
I play this way because I'm a hydra. I don't need to tag my posts.

You can read my slot without tags. It's not about the work being 'hard'. I do not and WILL not sign my posts. Ever. I don't ever do that. And I won't ever. Hydra's can get accused for contradicting thoughts this way, and I feel this way, we would be held responsible for our own actions as if we were one. Got me?
 
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Why?

@Zapp: But the fact he targeted Swiss specifically and made him answer despite a very reasonable chance Swiss has not played with either player at all is just awkward to me. The question isn't about those players. He's blindly targeting Swiss with poor attempts to get a read from Swiss and turned it into a power play when Swiss refused to answer. That doesn't read protown to me at all.
 

zapp brannigan

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Ran, now talk to me about Swiss and Spidey butting heads in the first couple pages. Is their confrontation any indication of either's alignment?

And how is Swiss scum? Or are you just omgus'ing?
I voted him because I don't like the idea of him voting me because of that. I don't have a read on him, I'm null. But he isn't doing much. He is currently parked on us, and I feel this could be him being lazyness, or using an excuse to be lazy... So yes, you can consider that an Omgus.

I voted him, but knew that leaving my vote on him would do nothing. I moved on to Dabuz.

Thoughts on him, JTB?
 

Swiss

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Lynch Zap as Ran is scared he'll be help accountable for his scumslips. He needs the buffer of Vanz.

@ Vanz - wtf are you doing hydra'ing with someone like Ran? No offence Ran.
 
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