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Rusty Guillotine Mafia | Ovah

#HBC | Ryker

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You know what counters the Voyeur who can find the roleblocker, Joey? The roleblocker. We DO NOT NEED the Voyeur. The chances of the Voyeur finding something at this point are hella low.
 

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Mechanics post edited.
Thanks Xiivii.

Now we lynch both claimants followed by Cello.

WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT? REGARDLESS OF THE ORDER OF THE FIRST TWO LYNCHES, WE WILL LYNCH THEM AND CELLO AFTER THAT.

If you have issue with that, post it now so I can point out why you're wrong.
 

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THEN THINK OF THEM AS A TOWNIE GOD DANGIT. SERIOUSLY DUDE COME ON!

Just because their role doesn't have use doesn't mean that THE PERSON doesn't have use.
 

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Thanks Xiivii.

Now we lynch both claimants followed by Cello.

WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT? REGARDLESS OF THE ORDER OF THE FIRST TWO LYNCHES, WE WILL LYNCH THEM AND CELLO AFTER THAT.

If you have issue with that, post it now so I can point out why you're wrong.
I love this point. XD
 

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Ran -> Cello -> Smarg(If Ran flips town) -> Who the **** ever.

That is the only way I can see this lynching be any way decent. That way we don't purposefully give up a townie. Plus we still lynch Cello. How is this bad in any way, shape, or form?

J, That was also a post to show how angry I am at your play and to show that I think you're too scummy. It doesn't go over this though.

Ryker you're still dumb as **** even though we ****in' sang(lolthisword) Journey. I really don't think that you're thinking about this.

J I'm honestly not caring about a few FoS. They mean nothing to me at this point.
 

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THEN THINK OF THEM AS A TOWNIE GOD DANGIT. SERIOUSLY DUDE COME ON!

Just because their role doesn't have use doesn't mean that THE PERSON doesn't have use.
Fine, then lynch Smarg followed by Cello. I am that confident. The reason I say lynch both of them is, my ego aside, IT IS A GUARANTEED SCUM!!! We get a mislynch safety net by lynching one townie in exchange for one scum.

Why am I wrong, Joey?
 

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How is this bad in any way, shape, or form?
Assume that, regardless of whether we lynch Smarg or Ran, that the one we lynch is town and that Cello is town. Your third choice for lynch will never see the chopping block because the scum have already won. Now, if we lynch Smarg AND Ran, then lynch Cello, then we STILL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE if we're wrong.
 

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Lynch Ran followed by Cello.

Then Lynch Smarg if you feel that badly.

You're wrong because unlike Ran, Smarg isn't getting afraid and scummier by the second. Ran started using OMGUS, he's trying to say to lynch him to try 'n get out of it (Which is working), and he's trying to stay hidden all at the same time. How is none of this scummy? Ran > Smarg.
 

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I never OMGUSED. I voted Smarg before this all happened.
 

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funny, I think he's overthinking and wifoming (which is all the "scum wouldn't do that, it's too stupid" argument is)

Joey, there are no words for how glad I am that you checked Ryker, because he's a prime candidate for a mislynch otherwise.
 

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@J/Ryker: Definitely need Smarg/Ran in either order, then Cello; after that we it depends on flips. One of Smarg or Ran flips scum; regardless of which one flips scum Cello could be either one's scum buddy. If Smarg flips scum, I won't push for a J lynch the next day because I've already said J/Smarg =/= scum team. I would say that Smarg/Swords would be most likely at that juncture (although if Smarg is scum I'm expecting Cello to flip scum too). If Ran flips scum then J is my top suspect as his scum buddy, my suspects for Ran are Cello/J and Cello would already be on the guillotine.

@Ran: Umm, Ran, I definitely don't remember that, but it didn't play into the game, in fact that comment you quoted and maybe Nabe's are I think the only things that came from it. As you can see, this has caused pages of discussion. Much much different.

@Joey: Please don't give up on this game, we will figure all this crap out and lynch one scum toDay or toMorrow, then hopefully the next scum on the next Day. I promise if Ran flips scum I will fight to the death that J is his scum buddy. The reason we can't vote Cello in between is that if we do and the first person on the guillotine between Ran and Smarg isn't scum, then even if we have scum on the guillotine the fourth day we lose ;-;
 

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Ryker is the most townie person in this game and saying that he is a prime candidate for a mislynch is absurd. I mean honestly I have yet to see a single scummy questionable action from him.

Smarg then Ran, Smarg then Ran.
 

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@Mod: Please explain this line:

"Note that town if town mislynches thrice they will lose upon the next lynch."

do we lose upon the next Mislynch or do we lose upon the next lynch in general?

Do they have to be consecutive as well?
 

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Assume that, regardless of whether we lynch Smarg or Ran, that the one we lynch is town and that Cello is town. Your third choice for lynch will never see the chopping block because the scum have already won. Now, if we lynch Smarg AND Ran, then lynch Cello, then we STILL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE if we're wrong.
Respond Joey. I want to be certain I didn't ninja you.

I'd rather swim in WIFOM than drown in it. It's like Joey's "breadcrumbing." EVERYONE is thinking about the WIFOM, but they don't want to talk about it. **** that. It's an opinion on how you think they would react, I'm simply putting it out there for others to make decisions based on it.
 

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@J/Ryker: Definitely need Smarg/Ran in either order, then Cello; after that we it depends on flips. One of Smarg or Ran flips scum; regardless of which one flips scum Cello could be either one's scum buddy. If Smarg flips scum, I won't push for a J lynch the next day because I've already said J/Smarg =/= scum team. I would say that Smarg/Swords would be most likely at that juncture (although if Smarg is scum I'm expecting Cello to flip scum too). If Ran flips scum then J is my top suspect as his scum buddy, my suspects for Ran are Cello/J and Cello would already be on the guillotine.

@Ran: Umm, Ran, I definitely don't remember that, but it didn't play into the game, in fact that comment you quoted and maybe Nabe's are I think the only things that came from it. As you can see, this has caused pages of discussion. Much much different.

@Joey: Please don't give up on this game, we will figure all this crap out and lynch one scum toDay or toMorrow, then hopefully the next scum on the next Day. I promise if Ran flips scum I will fight to the death that J is his scum buddy. The reason we can't vote Cello in between is that if we do and the first person on the guillotine between Ran and Smarg isn't scum, then even if we have scum on the guillotine the fourth day we lose ;-;
It means that I make mistakes, simple as that. It disproves that Ran would always make sure not to make mistakes, it happens all the time. Even J knows that. (Me skimming and stuff) I am lazy and carefree, so I make statements without thinking at times. Oh well.

It didn't play into the game much because I was scummy the whole game, yet I was the cop. This is different because it's about a role result. Mistakes happen everywhere.
 

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@Mod: Please explain this line:

"Note that town if town mislynches thrice they will lose upon the next lynch."

do we lose upon the next Mislynch or do we lose upon the next lynch in general?

Do they have to be consecutive as well?
#Mod: One three mislynches occur, then town has lost however this is not reflected until the next lynch occurs regardless of the person placed on guillotine then.
 

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If I and Smarg are lynched then it's safer for town because one of us is scum. Then you guys can lynch Cello after you see the flip if you decide it is what to do at the time.
 

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WAIT... If Smarg was scum, then why would Smarg claim something not VT in an OPEN SETUP? She's definetly not dumb enough to do something like that. I know it for a fact. Theres no way she'd do that.

I REALLY think you all are overviewing the fact that:
1)The thing stated above
2)Smarg was the first to post about me possibly crumbing my role
3)Smargs Voyeur result perfectly lines up with number two.
4)Ran has became WAY MORE SCUMMY ever since he counterclaimed.
 

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...:/. This is what happens when we lose the impatient executioner right off the bat.

Do whatever. Sorry Smarg.
 

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Let's do the math. Suppose we lynch right today and mislynched yesterday and then continue to mislynch.

At the moment under those conditions, we're at 8/2. After a correct lynch today, gboy will flip and we'll be at 7/2. d3 morning it's 6/2. d3 end of day Ran flips scum and it's 6/1. nk brings us to 5/1 d4 dawn, mislynch d3 to 4/1. nk again takes us to d5 dawn 3/1, mislynch d4 is 2/1 is game dawn of d5. It's the same as if you lynch incorrectly today.
 

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Simple: Scum want to OUT pr's. Also since Voyeur is a simple role, it would be easy to claim. I cc'd because then we know one of us is scum.
 

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GUYS WAIT. I'M THE REAL VOYEUR.

Loljk Ran's an idiot and can die.

But you jerks gave me so much to read.

Basically stopped reading after the 28th 40ppp page, but I'll get back to it in a bit.

Lol Ranmaru's dying toDay. I don't even know why you'd do that.

This is SwordsRBroken CCing the vig. LOLOLOL PIERRE SHOT HIS SURVIVOR A** TO DEATH!

Reading now.
 

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"this is why you don't necessarily claim" is referring to GLG, not you. My situation was totally different.
 

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WAIT... If Smarg was scum, then why would Smarg claim something not VT in an OPEN SETUP? She's definetly not dumb enough to do something like that. I know it for a fact. Theres no way she'd do that.

I REALLY think you all are overviewing the fact that:
1)The thing stated above
2)Smarg was the first to post about me possibly crumbing my role
3)Smargs Voyeur result perfectly lines up with number two.
4)Ran has became WAY MORE SCUMMY ever since he counterclaimed.
1.) TO OUT THE VOYEUR!!!!!
2.) So? I picked up on it the first time you said I was town, but I didn't want to mention it in case scum didn't pick up on it.
3.) It also lines up with the fake claim.
4.) I disagree. Show me where instead of making broad comments.
 

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Ryker - why would I want to out the voyeur? It's pretty useless once you've confirmed the reporter (which I did), and why would scum do that?
 
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