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Yeah. It's the social thread for Roy.so is this the new Roy thread? since the one @Croph made got locked since roy came out. Is everyone from there here? Like @
Ura @
dy831532sssfjhhggb2224523 @Adeptmune and sorry if i forget the others.
Croph
and @
dy831532sssfjhhggb2224523
here though.
alright i was just wondering. So who still plays Melee and PM Roy now that smash 4 Roy is out? I still play PM Roy but Melee Roy i save for just my friends. Im definitely not good enough to beat like my friends fox and falco.Yeah. It's the social thread for Roy.
I haven't seen members like @
EDIT: NVM I Just saw Croph's post lol.
Agreed. He's very combo oriented it seems
Just hopin' they have what it takes to keep Roy under 'em when dealing with his weaknesses or bad MUs.
Roy-dittos aren't too fun for me since people seem to boast themselves about using him "better" than I and whatnot. Kinda annoying since I played him a lot in PM, but had to adjust into him again in Sm4sh.
Yeah definitely seems to have the same "flaws" as marth, but because he actually has combos, kill combos. He'll fare way better than Marth in neutral currently.
Captain Falcon-like straightforward, if we can be more accurate?
The other radical headband guy
YOOOOOOOO I was actually thinking of hopping in here this morning with this phresh pheraen oc:so is this the new Roy thread? since the one @
Sm4sh Roy is way too satisfying. I had to port over and correct and adapt on a lot of his moveset and just him in sm4sh's environment, so I may use my secondary (Captain Falcon) a lot more in Melee and upgrade him to main status and 20GX technology. Not sure in PM, I want to try out more of the cast and see what I like. I like Ness, Ike, and Snake a lot, so I may pick one of them up and try them as a PM main for a while. Once I have a pretty solid grasp on sm4sh Roy I may juggle him in all games again.
Boop. I popped up in the beginning, but I haven't had as much time as I wanted to be on the Roy boards, sadly.Yeah. It's the social thread for Roy.
I haven't seen members like @
EDIT: NVM I Just saw Croph's post lol.
having a lot of posts popping up just trying to reply normally to the thread is one of the bigger parts of it, I'm more or less waiting on the DLC bandwagon to die down before I can really feel like there's not way too much to dig into on so many of the threads, this is one of the most calm ones so far.It's the DLC cycle. Everyone wants to main Mewtwo, or Roy/Ryu/Lucas, then come a month later, the number of their mains will die down. It's to be expected in a game with 50+ characters, especially considering that the DLC characters have no custom moves for events that host them. I'll still be using vanilla Roy in customs, it gives me more time to learn how to fight the worst customs rather than worry about applications of my own customs which is honestly what's most important.
Roy dittos have always been the only ditto I don't automatically lose at. The only way I've been knocked out of bracket by another Roy in Melee or PM is if they switch character and somehow bring it back from 1-0 or 2-0.
I can help beat the more smug Roys and with the ditto in general. If they try to be smug then they'll probably be trying flashy stuff and forming really bad habits trying to show off, or they'll be too aggressive trying to make you crack. From there it's easy to get in their heads and make them nervous (sometimes too much to approach properly) if you watch their habits and punish properly with patience. If they go into a state where they're hesitant to approach then it's a lot easier to put more pressure on them and dance around them with your movement, and become the main aggressor no matter how comfy you are with it. I can't really give tips other than that, most of my thought on the game comes down to trying to read people as much as I can. I'm booty at other Smash advice.
I need to see how I fare on Smashladder. FG is just something I do when I have internet access but no computer to hit up better players.
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alright i was just wondering. So who still plays Melee and PM Roy now that smash 4 Roy is out? I still play PM Roy but Melee Roy i save for just my friends. Im definitely not good enough to beat like my friends fox and falco. super edit- LEL i didnt even post the original since i went and played some SF4. I feel derpy. Also Roy is Super fun in smash 4 but i hate the fact that people jump to him if they never like him in other games. Its just a pet peeve i have.Yeah. It's the social thread for Roy.
I haven't seen members like @
EDIT: NVM I Just saw Croph's post lol.
I'm one of these people since I wanted to play a Fire Emblem character and he was the most enjoyable. Haven't played him in any previous games as a main (He felt eh in Melee and I didn't take PM seriously although he was one of my three most used characters). Sorry.
Mewtwo suffers greatly against highly aggressive or campy play. He has pretty bad matchups against most of the top and high tiers. He has a big hurtbox and is also incredibly easy to kill. He is quite slow. His floatiness renders him unable to land safely in a lot of situations. His hitboxes are a bit janky. He has a great deal of flaws, and I'm pretty sure there's a lot more than I haven't listed.
Roy has an unbelievable amount of poking tools, safe juggle tools and ways to cover landings, beastly ground game, and lots of safe aggression, along with his fall speed being a godsend with the sheer number of vertical kill moves and juggle tools the higher ups have. Though Roy koopa's not quite near his league
Robin is really slow and fails to deal with a rushdown style, like most of the high tiers have. I used to be a Robin main, so I think I know about the character a little bit. He/she just can't deal with characters like Diddy, ZSS, and Sheik very well. Some people underestimate Robin when they put him/her in the lowest of low tiers because he/she has a lot of useful and interesting tools, but most of them really only have a few uses. I would put the Robins in low-mid/high-low just because they can deal with most of the low tiers but struggle with the higher ones.
Marth got uber nerfed? You do know that he got buffed this patch, right? If you mean from Brawl to Smash 4, he didn't get uber nerfed because he still has his great game like his off-stage game and he actually has a good neutral game thanks to jab and Dancing Blade, as well as a safer u-tilt and a good f-tilt now.
Well to be fair, in a game with almost 60 characters in it, top 15 is pretty close to "top tier" especially considering the character literally came out days ago and has no developed meta game behind him. He seems like he would be a God under what I like to call the best Asian players mastered in League of Legends "calculated aggression." He seems like if he can get in, he can do work and take a stock with 3-4 good reads (think like Captain Falcon) but of course, is risky lacking a plethora of safe ways to approach. Also, don't sleep on brawler. Another one of those people I thought was bad at first glance, but picking him up recently, see that he too is top 10-15 easily. Less popular characters have weaker meta games so give our boy a chance to catch up to the SM4SH meta top characters
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A jab buff wont do much as put Him "on Roy's toes"per say, but a buff is a buff sure. The thing is, coming from brawl, Marths aerials/offstage game could and should be so much better--Tons better ,and safe. He got himself a good Teir placement due to it. But i agree i think his On-stage moves can suffice in good hands, but his overall ability in the air is severely reduced from 'safe' 'Reliable ' ...
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Marth definitely has combos, especially with the n-air and u-tilt buff; I recommend check out the Marth combo guides, jab to DB has been a really good combo ever since DB got buffed. His off-stage game is actually quite well because his range is hard to compete with and with such a fast recovery like Dolphin Slash ledge trumping and f-air spacing even prior to a ledge trump Marth does quite well. Marth at the very least survives in the neutral and Marth does quite well aerial-wise. He definitely got nerfed compared to Melee/Brawl, and I can even agree that there are ways he can be better without being remotely ridiculous; However, I can also say without a doubt that he is doing well enough to not be considered to have recieved a major nerf like it makes him an objectively worse character than a lot of the cast tbh. So Roy definitively being superior to the FE cast is meh, and I'm ignoring Ike because I don't have much personal experience playing as him but I know he's a great character too.
oh course but im comparing Marth and Roy,sir. No need for checking out marthboards haha ^-^"@
Also it's only been 2 days since Roy got released, there is no way you can say that Marth isn't on "Roy's toes" because we don't really have the time to say how good Roy truly is. Roy has a strong combo game and he is strong, but it's so soon and I'm already starting to notice how Roy is really close range and his off-stage game is definitely not the best. We need more time to see how good Roy actually is, and whether his apparent strengths are worth his apparent weaknesses. (Which currently it is, but it's been so early and the hype needs to calm down)
Oh, Brawler is amazing too. I just disagree that the top 25% is "top tier". Top five are top tier, below that is high tier IMO. Really good comparison with LoL though, I think we'll see a lot of Roy players just go mindlessly aggro and get destroyed for it at their first tournament showings, a lot like Zed/Vaynes in Solo Queue ;PWell to be fair, in a game with almost 60 characters in it, top 15 is pretty close to "top tier" especially considering the character literally came out days ago and has no developed meta game behind him. He seems like he would be a God under what I like to call the best Asian players mastered in League of Legends "calculated aggression." He seems like if he can get in, he can do work and take a stock with 3-4 good reads (think like Captain Falcon) but of course, is risky lacking a plethora of safe ways to approach. Also, don't sleep on brawler. Another one of those people I thought was bad at first glance, but picking him up recently, see that he too is top 10-15 easily. Less popular characters have weaker meta games so give our boy a chance to catch up to the SM4SH meta top characters