Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Arcanir]

There is only one mewtwo. It is against the law to kill an endangered species for self entertainment or leisure.

Ah, but you can't kill in Pokémon, plus, that's why GF gave us Saves.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Here's a question about Jiggz, should fairy type be implemented into her moveset.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

What's your reasoning behind WFT being unlockable? Because all curveball choices (G&W, ROB) have been unlockable so far?

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[Lasifer]

Here's a question about Jiggz, should fairy type be implemented into her moveset.

Yes, and it will be if Sakurai feels that her moveset needs changing.

 

[Opossum]

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAABAAAYUKk_szxpPQ

Sakurai alludes to the notion that Jigglypuff is the next reveal by blatantly stating that Wii Fit Trainer is asleep (Jigglypuff's signature move and iconic ability). Let us not forget to examine the picture more thoroughly. You might notice that a few Jigglypuff's are actually discernible in the image. Wii Fit Trainer has some nice Jigglypuffs. As if that wasn't enough, the entire thing is an extended hyperbole. She is in the air, similar to a balloon Pokemon, and on something pink. Can you tell me a Pokemon that is both pink, and a balloon Pokemon. It is fairly absolute. I can't think of any other Pokemon that fit that description. Let us not forget that Sakurai and I are great friends. He knows that I intend to co-main Wii Fit Trainer. So what better way to suggest the playable nature of Jigglypuff than to make the entire picture an inside joke.

So Jigglypuff is inevitable.

Shiny Qwilfish confirmed!

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Jiggz is fine as is IMO.

 

[Johnknight1]

Not sure if this was brought up but I want to clarify something quickly,
Wii Fit Trainer is SLEEPING in Friday's pic.

There is only ONE character that can cause others to sleep.

The only winner is MorbidAlterism.

How do you know Bellossom isn't confirmed as a Pokéball Pokémon that Lucario throws=???

That was a subtle hint...

Now Sakurai will show Lucario to throw you off again.

Sakurai: "Sorry MorbidAlterism, the Singer is at another Concert."

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAABAAAYUKk_szxpPQ

Sakurai alludes to the notion that Jigglypuff is the next reveal by blatantly stating that Wii Fit Trainer is asleep (Jigglypuff's signature move and iconic ability). Let us not forget to examine the picture more thoroughly. You might notice that a few Jigglypuff's are actually discernible in the image. Wii Fit Trainer has some nice Jigglypuffs. As if that wasn't enough, the entire thing is an extended hyperbole. She is in the air, similar to a balloon Pokemon, and on something pink. Can you tell me a Pokemon that is both pink, and a balloon Pokemon. It is fairly absolute. I can't think of any other Pokemon that fit that description. Let us not forget that Sakurai and I are great friends. He knows that I intend to co-main Wii Fit Trainer. So what better way to suggest the playable nature of Jigglypuff than to make the entire picture an inside joke.

So Jigglypuff is inevitable.

My finger is waving on that because there are yoga poses that involve laying down and sakurai is unpredictible and that could just be wii fit trainer in the knocked down poistion like all of the characters have

 

[Chandeelure]

Shiny Qwilfish confirmed!

Igglybuff and Wigglytuff XD

 

[Johnknight1]

The 4th 3rd party playable is Tails, your reaction?

No really, I think if everyone from Brawl returned plus Mewtwo from Melee, as well as we got at least K. Rool and Ridley, I would accept this gift with open arms.

 

[SchAlternate]

Here's a question about Jiggz, should fairy type be implemented into her moveset.

Her moveset is fine as it is (only brutally nerfed by Brawl), but her final Smash could be a new fairy type move. Of course, special visual effects wouldn't be bad either.

Will Sonic, Luigi, Mega Man and Toon Link be unlockable or starter characters?

Possibly unlockables, unless third parties become starters.

If on-topic is as in roster predictions, then we could discuss the one I just posted in the Display thread for a post or two until somebody comes up with a random post that derails the thread again:

My only concern is Krystal. Other than that, eh, fair enough.

 

[Arcanir]

Here's a question about Jiggz, should fairy type be implemented into her moveset.

Well, it could, but I don't it needs to be. Her moveset, as mentioned by SchAlternate, is great as it is and I can't say there's any special moves I'd take away from her moveset for Fairy moves. Plus, it's not as integral to the character whereas all the moves that she currently has are classics for her.

 

[SchAlternate]

I mean, I'd would be like Mario having one of his moves replaced by FLUDD because Sunshine was the most recent Mario game.

AND YOU ALL KNOW VERY WELL HOW THAT TURNED OUT...

 

[Depressed Gengar]

They need to fix F.L.U.D.D.

 

[Johnknight1]

Jigglypuff should receive minimal changes... aside from ignoring the fact Jigglypuff was designed by apparently an inept group of human beings in Brawl.

Just give Jigglypuff a similar playstyle and hitboxes to Jigglypuff's appearance in Smash 64 and Melee, although I'd like to see Rest have more visible hitboxes (like all the attacks we've seen so far), and perhaps wider range.

Also, I'd make Jigglypuff A LOTTTTTT faster on the ground. Jigglypuff's ground speed in Melee had a lot to be desired, but Jigglypuff's speed in Brawl (the worst in the game) was pathetic game design.

(Reasons #4,586 and #9,234 that I am happy Game Arts won't be the primary developer of a Smash Bros. game ever again)

They need to fix F.L.U.D.D.

Preferably they'd remove that move, but it seems we're stuck with it.

They need to actually give it tons of knockback so it can actually serve as the original purpose in Brawl... as a kill move via knockback.

That or just change it to a move that is meant for doing damage slowly but surely (kinda like a combination of Charizard's flamethrower and Fox's laser).

 

[Swift Fox]

Need a better replacement for:
-Black Shadow
-Tom Nook
-Ashley
-Chrom or Chrom/Lucina
-Takamaru
-Krystal

And please don't suggest me character in absurd height from the same series as one or more existing playable characters (Olimar and Kirby may be really small IRL but noone else in their series is much bigger that is playable):
-Ridley
-kraid
-King K. Rool

Or character with poor moveset potential like:
-Toad

 

[Pacack]

Need a better replacement for:
-Black Shadow
-Tom Nook
-Ashley
-Chrom or Chrom/Lucina
-Takamaru
-Krystal

And please don't suggest me character in absurd height from the same series as one or more existing playable characters (Olimar and Kirby may be really small IRL but noone else in their series is much bigger that is playable):
-Ridley
-kraid
-King K. Rool

Or character with poor moveset potential like:
-Toad

What a waste of a 300th post.

 

[Starcutter]

K. Rool is apperently too big? what? this must be a joke

 

[Swift Fox]

K. Rool is apperently too big? what? this must be a joke

Aww yeah

Last time I checked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEp90A9EzA

 

[Chandeelure]

Need a better replacement for:
-Black Shadow
-Tom Nook
-Ashley
-Chrom or Chrom/Lucina
-Takamaru
-Krystal

And please don't suggest me character in absurd height from the same series as one or more existing playable characters (Olimar and Kirby may be really small IRL but noone else in their series is much bigger that is playable):
-Ridley
-kraid
-King K. Rool

Or character with poor moveset potential like:
-Toad

So colorful XDD

-Black Shadow/ replace with ...Samurai Goroh? ,I don't know XD
-Tom Nook/ replace with Shulk
-Ashley/ replace with Dixie Kong
-Chrom or Chrom/Lucina / replace with Only Chrom
-Takamaru / Is fine
-Krystal / replace with Isaac

 

[Starcutter]

Aww yeah

Last time I checked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEp90A9EzA

sure, choose his biggest appearance. most games after that he appeared at the size of DK.

here, look at the batter's umm... that square on the ground in front of the plate. he's already been pretty small, but still bigger then the smash cast.

 

[SchAlternate]

Need a better replacement for:
-Black Shadow
-Tom Nook
-Ashley
-Chrom or Chrom/Lucina
-Takamaru
-Krystal

And please don't suggest me character in absurd height from the same series as one or more existing playable characters (Olimar and Kirby may be really small IRL but noone else in their series is much bigger that is playable):
-Ridley
-kraid
-King K. Rool

Or character with poor moveset potential like:
-Toad

I would write an essay on why the "too big" argument is not valid in any way, but whatever, it's your roster.

Black Shadow - Mach Rider?
Tom Nook - Lip ()
Ashley - King K.Rool Dixie Kong
Chrom - Roy
Takamaru is okay as it is.
Krystal - Ray MKII?

 

[Johnknight1]

Aww yeah

Last time I checked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEp90A9EzA

What you just did to your reputation here by saying K. Rool or any character is too big when we got Bowser and Olimar playable...

 

[Chandeelure]

I like K.Rool and he is not giant XD BUT,Dixie is much more likely and I'm not sure about the idea of 4 DK reps.
It's my opinion,I don't want a stupid fight please.

 

[Baskerville]

Someone is actually saying K Rool is too big?

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .



















****. Everything.

 

[Starcutter]

Someone is actually saying K Rool is too big?

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .



















****. Everything.

to be fair im pretty sure he only actually played DK64. he's ginormous in that one.

 

[Baskerville]

Like canon has ever ****ing mattered in a CROSSOVER Fighting Game.

 

[Swift Fox]

So colorful XDD

-Black Shadow/ replace with ...Samurai Goroh? ,I don't know XD
-Tom Nook/ replace with Shulk
-Ashley/ replace with Dixie Kong
-Chrom or Chrom/Lucina / replace with Only Chrom
-Takamaru / Is fine
-Krystal / replace with Isaac

Ashley -> Isaac
Chrom/Lucina -> Chrom
Tom Nook -> Shulk
Krystal stays (I think she's better than Dixie Kong in moveset potential...)
Samurai Goroh and Takamaru same clones?

...

Canonically? I trhink not, but I've seen King K. Rool in other DK games and he looks smaller than in DK64.

 

[SchAlternate]

And besides, even if his size were an issue, I'm sure they'd do anything required to accommodate him accordingly into Smash since, you know, he's an All Star.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I like K.Rool and he is not giant XD BUT,Dixie is much more likely and I'm not sure about the idea of 4 DK reps.
It's my opinion,I don't want a stupid fight please.

Honestly, I don't see why fans couldn't have both K. Rool and Dixie.

 

[Swift Fox]

Maybe I'll hold my roster until Ridley or King K. Rool or someone really big actually confirmed as playable for SSB4...

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Characters can be shrunken down.
Let that sink in.

 

[Knight Dude]

Oh hey guys what going on?
"King K. Rool is to big"

Yeah...so that's a thing now. I guess.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Olimar is too big.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Olimar is too big.

Ridley is too small.

 

[Baskerville]

Olimar is too big.

Everyone is too big.
It should be called Super Kaiju Bros. Pyro

 

[Johnknight1]

Like canon has ever ****ing mattered in a CROSSOVER Fighting Game.

Just look at my linked pictures for proof.

Bowser was over 100 feet tall.

Olimar was smaller than a AA battery.

Please people, if you believe in size issues in smash with characters, never come to SmashBoards, or else I will make all your arguments look like this...

 

[Swift Fox]

Please stop

You've just hurt my feeling.

Bowsers has different heights in various canon Mario games here's the proof

AFAIK, Super Smash Bros is all-star battle game, meaning everyone with any height like Olimar and Kirby and Bowser that has been small in some canon Mario games can join but on conditions: It's never been much bigger/smaller in previous Smash nor been canonically big in other Nintendo IPs not due to hardware limitation like Ridley has always big in new Metroid games.

I have yet to see someone that always big or small with existing playable character, becoming playable in smash bros...

 

[LoneKonWolf]

so . . . . k.rool too big huh
guess we got cut DK because hes a similar size

 

[Johnknight1]

Bowsers has different heights in various canon Mario games here's the proof

Go look up K. Rool's height in those pictures from that Mario Baseball game, DKC1-3, and DK64. They change a lot.

Heck, Charizard's height goes from gigantic to like his actual Pokédex height of only about 5 foot 2 inches (120-ish pounds).

Charizard is actually much shorter than Mewtwo (5'2 vs. 6'9), and yet he's taller when comparing them in Brawl and Melee.

On top of that, DK is what=??? A GIGANTIC GORILLA THAT WEIGHS OVER A TON!?!?!?

AFAIK, Super Smash Bros is all-star battle game, meaning everyone with any height like Olimar and Kirby and Bowser that has been small in some canon Mario games can join but on conditions: It's never been much bigger/smaller in previous Smash nor been canonically big in other Nintendo IPs not due to hardware limitation like Ridley has always big in new Metroid games.

I have yet to see someone that always big or small with existing playable character, becoming playable in smash bros...

Olimar IS SMALLER THAN A PENNY!!!! SMALLER THAN A PENNY!!! THIS LITERALLY CONTRADICTS YOUR FORMER POINT!!!!

Why don't you just wise up and say "height canon doesn't matter", because you keep contradicting yourself foolishly.