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Johnknight1

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Wow, I'm feeling hypocritical right now. That's not a good thing, you got to avoid that kind of stuff.
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Since you propped Diskun so much... you argued that Diskun is oh so important that he deserves to be in Smash (muh relevancy)... later you say retro characters don't have to be relevant to get in Smash... so Diskun's so-called importance isn't really necessary. So which is it? Would Diskun get in Smash because of muh relevancy or not? :awesome:
He is important. When you said relevance, I thought you meant he CURRENTLY had some significance to what's currently going on in Nintendo history. If you think Diskun and the Disk System was not important to Nintendo History then you clearly don't know enough to be arguing against Diskun.
 

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So, call me Pollyanna, but I have a feeling that something Smash related could be at the Nintendo World launch party in 40 minutes or the Nintendo event at NY Comic-Con tomorrow. Eh, maybe I am just really hopeful. Haha.
 

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Nope.

As smart as Sakurai and co. are, they don't always add the most unique or best characters in terms of moveset, playstyle, and skillset.

Hence why ROB got in over Mewtwo in Brawl.
adding a character in terms of moveset? that's ridiculous they make the moveset. there was a point where Mario had the FLUDD pack. I haven't been checking so i don't know if he still does, but Peach could very well have a cake, luigi a vaccuum, linka cross bow, ganon a horse, and bowser a koopa clown car. The list goes on. They do a pretty darn good job, but it's up the devs to also always do the best job they can, which an almost any fighter is rough. But especially in one as limited as smash
 

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He is important. When you said relevance, I thought you meant he CURRENTLY had some significance to what's currently going on in Nintendo history. If you think Diskun and the Disk System was not important to Nintendo History then you clearly don't know enough to be arguing against Diskun.
You should probably tell us how exactly Diskun is/was important to Nintendo and not just blow off any comment against Diskun.
 

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You should probably tell us how exactly Diskun is/was important to Nintendo and not just blow off any comment against Diskun.
It was a successful and notable add-on for the famicom, which is very significant to Nintendo's History. Diskun was the cute and notable mascot for this console. He appeared in many Famicom Disk System games as well, including one of which he was the main character.

 

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In all honesty, who else think that, when Sakurai said that there might be cuts due to time constrains, he was merely lying to avoid us from expecting a lot?
 

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  • 3DS has limitations
  • Mii's inclusion might add a bit more time especially if customization is part of it
  • Cuts are very likely
Me going past 45 is even pushing it a bit.
- So over 45 characters is going over, but not the approximately 1000 full 3D models that will be in X and Y?

- That's assuming Mii's get in, and both Villager and Wii-Fit Trainer could suggest they won't

- Now that we have Toon Link, the only two characters that look like they could get the boot are Ike and Lucario, and both are justifiable.
 

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If it came out this year, that would be understandable for novice speculators who don't know much. But, now? Oh, hell no.
It still wouldn't make sense even if it was released when Wreck-It Ralph was released. Wreck-It Ralph is a movie character, made for a movie. Just because Nintendo let Bowser (didn't even let them have Mario :lol) have a cameo in there doesn't make Ralph eligible. Requesting Ralph is as dumb as requesting Thor.
 

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I guess his chance at this point is very low. Like, smaller than N64 logo's chance (I'm not saying anything more on that topic, I shall never participate in N64 Logo discussion other than trying to end it when it gets out of hand) but I refuse to believe it's utterly impossible.
 

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Nope.

As smart as Sakurai and co. are, they don't always add the most unique or best characters in terms of moveset, playstyle, and skillset.

Hence why ROB got in over Mewtwo in Brawl.
No... R.O.B. got in over Ridley in Brawl, get your facts straight! :troll:



My proof? R.O.B. was too big! :awesome:

 

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I guess his chance at this point is very low. Like, smaller than N64 logo's chance (I'm not saying anything more on that topic, I shall never participate in N64 Logo discussion other than trying to end it when it gets out of hand) but I refuse to believe it's not utterly impossible.
I'm against the 64's N, but the GameCube G has gotta be in it, man.
 

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sup guys
i just now noticed the forums were even back, so yeah

what's occuri- noah's avatar is diskun. please don't tell me he's supporting diskun
 

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This looks like you're giving me a video and not backing up what it implies. Care to elaborate?
It just irritates me that people just toss these two characters out the window.

Replacing Ike, the 2nd most popular lord who had 2 installments for Fat Marth because muh recency. And simply making the same biggest mistake in Brawl, but reversing it by cutting Lucario for a previously cut character.
 

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It still wouldn't make sense even if it was released when Wreck-It Ralph was released. Wreck-It Ralph is a movie character, made for a movie. Just because Nintendo let Bowser (didn't even let them have Mario :lol) have a cameo in there doesn't make Ralph eligible. Requesting Ralph is as dumb as requesting Thor.
You're being rather rude here, but I'll try not to be. (and I'm not exactly "requesting" him. )

Sakurai has never directly outright stated that a character has to originate on a video game to be able to get into Smash. And the arcade based game "Fix-It Felix" was released before the film IIRC.

Another thing, Ralph had managed to become a guest characer on Sonic All Stars Racing, so he might be able to continue appear in crossovers with other characters that had appeared in his film, as a guest, at least for perhaps one title.

This is all I got, and I admit it does not mean much, but I still do not see Ralph as "impossible."
 

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Also, why the **** does every single human being ignore the fact that EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE FIRE EMBLEM FRANCHISE appears in Fire Emblem: Awakening, practically murdering the relevancy crap. Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem also looks like it's going in a similar path.
 

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You're being rather rude here, but I'll try not to be. (and I'm not exactly "requesting" him. )

Sakurai has never directly outright stated that a character has to originate on a video game to be able to get into Smash. And the arcade based game "Fix-It Felix" was released before the film IIRC.

Another thing, Ralph had managed to become a guest characer on Sonic All Stars Racing, so he might be able to continue appear in crossovers with other characters that had appeared in his film, as a guest, at least for perhaps one title.

This is all I got, and I admit it does not mean much, but I still do not see Ralph as "impossible."

There's a supposed rumor going on that Wreck it Ralph 2 could be in the works, and Mario would appear in it somewhere.
..but I read this shortly after the 1st movie came out so I don't know what's it's current status.
 

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Danica Patrick also managed to become a guest character on Sonic All Stars Racing.

Danica Patrick confirmed as Captain Falcon clone!
 

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It just irritates me that people just toss these two characters out the window.

Replacing Ike, the 2nd most popular lord who had 2 installments for Fat Marth because muh recency. And simply making the same biggest mistake in Brawl, but reversing it by cutting Lucario for a previously cut character.
...I'm impressed on how you interpreted my statement completely backwards. I said both were justifiable to stay, but if cuts were forced, those would be the first 2 to come to mind.
 

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...I'm impressed on how you interpreted my statement completely backwards. I said both were justifiable to stay, but if cuts were forced, those would be the first 2 to come to mind.
Well...

the only two characters that look like they could get the boot are Ike and Lucario, and both are justifiable.
It sounded like you implied they look like they are in a state where they could very well get the boot and that both would be justifiable to cut.
 

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Also, why the **** does every single human being ignore the fact that EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE FIRE EMBLEM FRANCHISE appears in Fire Emblem: Awakening, practically murdering the relevancy crap. Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem also looks like it's going in a similar path.
Apparently optional DLC means they aren't important.
 

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Also, why the **** does every single human being ignore the fact that EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE FIRE EMBLEM FRANCHISE appears in Fire Emblem: Awakening, practically murdering the relevancy crap. Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem also looks like it's going in a similar path.
because they need their own fighter[smash]
 

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Also, why the **** does every single human being ignore the fact that EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE FIRE EMBLEM FRANCHISE appears in Fire Emblem: Awakening, practically murdering the relevancy crap. Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem also looks like it's going in a similar path.
Yes, but they are optional DLC. You could play Awakening without ever seeing Marth, Ike, or Roy in the playthrough.
 
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