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A newcomer being unveiled in a clip made to show a veteran? Yeah, I'd say this had no baring on Ridley one way or another. :facepalm:
I think the fact that Sakurai is going so far out of his way to tease Ridley and not show him as a hazard is because he really wants to take the Anti-Ridley supporters by surprise while simultaneously letting all the Pro-Ridley support on the internet explode in attention all at once. Really, as dickish as it is, it's the best way to make sure a big reveal will have a lot of attention, which is good marketing in the long run.
 

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I think the fact that Sakurai is going so far out of his way to tease Ridley and not show him as a hazard is because he really wants to take the Anti-Ridley supporters by surprise while simultaneously letting all the Pro-Ridley support on the internet explode in attention all at once. Really, as ****ish as it is, it's the best way to make sure a big reveal will have a lot of attention, which is good marketing in the long run.
I think that's the most idealistic outcome, but definitely not the most likely. It's possible, but personally I really don't think he's invested enough in Ridley's supporters and detractors to go to that effort. I mean in Japan people don't care one way or another about Ridley, that's generally who he pays attention to first anyway.
 

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So, now that the blue speed machine's confirmed, am I the only one that thinks Snake's pretty much confirmed as well? I doubt they'd boot just one guest.
Having Sonic in smash is a slam-dunk for both Nintendo and Sega. They both benefit from this.

Snake not so much.

He doesn't belong to Sony, but having him in smash doesnt draw attention towards Nintendo like Sonic does. Having Snake will draw attention to their competition of Sony.

Also, Sony may have snapped him up for the next PSABR, because a lot of people were asking "where's Snake?"

But we all know he went to the right party.

I dont want to see him go, but it doesnt make sense from a business standpoint. Granted, it didnt make sense before that he was in Brawl, so hes really a toss up at this point IMO.
 

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LOL, somebody stole my edited icon of Wii Fit Trainer and put it on the Icon Thread. This is almost as flattering as that Starfy + Chrom icon based off my post about who I thought would be revealed next.

Having Sonic in smash is a slam-dunk for both Nintendo and Sega. They both benefit from this.

Snake not so much.

He doesn't belong to Sony, but having him in smash doesnt draw attention towards Nintendo like Sonic does. Having Snake will draw attention to their competition of Sony.

Also, Sony may have snapped him up for the next PSABR, because a lot of people were asking "where's Snake?"

But we all know he went to the right party.

I dont want to see him go, but it doesnt make sense from a business standpoint. Granted, it didnt make sense before that he was in Brawl, so hes really a toss up at this point IMO.
This will affect him just as much as it did Brawl, meaning not at all.
 

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Having Sonic in smash is a slam-dunk for both Nintendo and Sega. They both benefit from this.

Snake not so much.

He doesn't belong to Sony, but having him in smash doesnt draw attention towards Nintendo like Sonic does. Having Snake will draw attention to their competition of Sony.

Also, Sony may have snapped him up for the next PSABR, because a lot of people were asking "where's Snake?"

But we all know he went to the right party.

I dont want to see him go, but it doesnt make sense from a business standpoint. Granted, it didnt make sense before that he was in Brawl, so hes really a toss up at this point IMO.
Well, they deliberately had Raiden as the Metal Gear rep, taking Snake's place. Snake's closer to Nintendo now that he was when Brawl came out (when I believe he had a PORT to the NES, and that was it, don't hold me to that though). He was very, very, well received, is the poster boy of third parties in Smash, and Kojima and Sakurai are probably still good buds. There's no reason to take him out, even from a business standpoint in comparison to Brawl.
 

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Having Sonic in smash is a slam-dunk for both Nintendo and Sega. They both benefit from this.

Snake not so much.

He doesn't belong to Sony, but having him in smash doesnt draw attention towards Nintendo like Sonic does. Having Snake will draw attention to their competition of Sony.

Also, Sony may have snapped him up for the next PSABR, because a lot of people were asking "where's Snake?"

But we all know he went to the right party.

I dont want to see him go, but it doesnt make sense from a business standpoint. Granted, it didnt make sense before that he was in Brawl, so hes really a toss up at this point IMO.
This is exactly my stance.
 

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Oh gawd. Again, Snake's lack of appearance in PSASBR had nothing to do with his potential appearance in Smash. Raiden didn't get in because Snake was "saved". Raiden got in because his game had come out/was coming out (I don't remember the exact timing) and Konami *gasp* wanted to promote it. They wanted their game to sell, and their game didn't star Snake. If it did, you can bet he'd have been in PSASBR instead, and it still wouldn't affect his chances for Smash. What, does Konami not want to profit as much as possible? Sony would have to give them a pretty hefty amount to keep Snake out of Smash, Konami aren't fools, they know how well it'll sell compared to PSASBR.

Raiden in PSASBR doesn't mean Snake is in SSB4, just like how if Snake had been in PSASBR it wouldn't have meant he'd be out of Smash. Characters can crossover more than once. :rolleyes:
 

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And to believe there are those who thought this would be a boring month of no meaningful updates.

EDIT: How clumsy of myself. I forgot this is the first new day of the new month October.
 

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So, now that the blue speed machine's confirmed, am I the only one that thinks Snake's pretty much confirmed as well? I doubt they'd boot just one guest.
No your not alone, id like to say his chances are still pretty good but we just dont know. Id like to think sakurai would give snake fans what he gave sonic fans with his return, but at this point im not gonna hold my breath. And of course gamefaqs is bursting at the seams with everyone saying snake is done, or he never belonged and the like (well more than before at least). Le sigh
 

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I loved Snake, and I definitely thought he was unique. I mained him for a while, but I don't think I'd want him in the next installment.
 

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I think the fact that Sakurai is going so far out of his way to tease Ridley and not show him as a hazard is because he really wants to take the Anti-Ridley supporters by surprise while simultaneously letting all the Pro-Ridley support on the internet explode in attention all at once. Really, as ****ish as it is, it's the best way to make sure a big reveal will have a lot of attention, which is good marketing in the long run.
I doubt he cares, since the Ridley support in the east isn't exactly what it is here, and He did the same thing with Yellow Devil (whose role is still unconfirmed) Sakurai 's never given much attention to Ridley, let alone plan an elaborate reveal process for him.
 

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Being a cheese weel that eats tic tacs,
Not sure if trolling, or just really immature, or both. The most iconic video game character in the world has a much better chance and obligation to be in smashbrothers ( and just to be immature back), than a genie with sex appeal to 13 year olds, a square headed stick figure who can only throw cherry bombs, and an overrated hasbin whose own company abandoned. (I haven't grown up with megaman so sorry if i'm a bit harsh, but this is my opinion after all)
appeared in some crappy games, and just not being as cool as A Sexy Genie, A Master of Bombs, a blue cyborg (Mega Man), and many other third-parties is not a bad reason to hate Pac-Man IMO
He is only easy to hate because some of the haters of pac-man (not all of them) don't have the intelligence, intuition, imagination, or ability to look at his past games for moveset capability.
 

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SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!! SONIC IS BACK!!!!!

:awesome: :awesome: :awesome: :awesome: :awesome:

THANK YOU GOD!!!!!!!!!
 

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Pac-Man is lame he hasn't had a good game since the 80s, if there were a Namco character, which there won't be, it should be either Klonoa or someone from the Tales series.
http://connecteddigitalworld.com/2013/09/27/pac-man-championship-edition-dx-steam/
http://www.gamespot.com/pac-man-world-2/reviews/pac-man-world-2-review-2850759/

lol at tales series who barely anyone even knows about, and klonoa who has been long since forgotten by Namco fans such as myself.
And pac-man still makes more money than them both combined.
 

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Not sure if trolling, or just really immature, or both. The most iconic video game character in the world has a much better chance and obligation to be in smashbrothers ( and just to be immature back), than a genie with sex appeal to 13 year olds, a square headed stick figure who can only throw cherry bombs, and an overrated hasbin whose own company abandoned. (I haven't grown up with megaman so sorry if i'm a bit harsh, but this is my opinion after all)
Who said anything about being likely or unlikely for Smash? I'm just saying he's incredibly stupid and would be a horrible addition. I don't see how having an opinion is immature. Also Bomberman doesn't throw Cherry Bombs. And Pac-Man is overrated, not Mega Man.

He is only easy to hate because some of the haters of pac-man (not all of them) don't have the intelligence, intuition, imagination, or ability to look at his past games for moveset capability.
His move set should be based off the arcade game, not those Pac-Man World games. Those games were not part of what made him iconic, and thus shouldn't be the majority of his move set. If his move set was based off the arcade game he'd have 2 unimpressive moves.
 

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I doubt he cares, since the Ridley support in the east isn't exactly what it is here, and He did the same thing with Yellow Devil (whose role is still unconfirmed) Sakurai 's never given much attention to Ridley, let alone plan an elaborate reveal process for him.
Are you serious? Yellow Devil was shown right off the bat in Mega Man's trailer in the Dr. Wily stage. Whether or not it's a boss fight or a stage hazard is unknown, more likely the latter, but the point is that we're immediately shown footage of it not being playable. Same for Nintendog, which acts like a giant looming in the background of its stage. Even Cragalanche, who Sakurai mentioned in the description of one of his Kid Icarus Uprising stage screenshots, had an immediate, literal "Not really." to his statement of maybe being a stage hazard.

Compare those to Ridley. We have not seen a single bit of Ridley thus far. There's no reason why he wouldn't just tell us that Ridley is a stage hazard or not like Cragalanche. There's been not a single bit of footage or screenshots to show that Ridley is a stage hazard. If he was a hazard, Sakurai has been deliberately giving us angles where we cannot see him. Does that not come off as suspicious to you? Whether or not Ridley is playable, it's a fact that Sakurai is definitely giving Ridley attention this time by teasing us about him with none of the detail equivalent entities like Yellow Devil or Nintendog have gotten.

Like I said before, there is no reason to avoid showing us Ridley unless Ridley is playable. By getting people riled up, speculating, arguing, and wondering about Ridley and his appearance, Sakurai is giving attention to Ridley. It's the Streisand effect at it's very finest and it's been known to work plenty of times before. It isn't a stretch by any means to say Sakurai is using the same method to promote a newcomer in the future.
 

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Not sure if trolling, or just really immature, or both. The most iconic video game character in the world has a much better chance and obligation to be in smashbrothers ( and just to be immature back), than a genie with sex appeal to 13 year olds, a square headed stick figure who can only throw cherry bombs, and an overrated hasbin whose own company abandoned. (I haven't grown up with megaman so sorry if i'm a bit harsh, but this is my opinion after all)

He is only easy to hate because some of the haters of pac-man (not all of them) don't have the intelligence, intuition, imagination, or ability to look at his past games for moveset capability.

*Claps* Bravo bravo! Ladies and gentlemen, THAT'S how you do it! THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!!! :shades: :shades: :shades:
Don't worry, Noah J. Linderer is probably the most immature and disrespectful forum user here so don't be surprised if he starts insulting you right now :shades: .

He is also the most ANTI-PACMAN user around here, like I swear anything related to Pacman and Noah will hate it with a passion. if you just mention the word Pacman in a sentence steam will be coming out of his ears and his face will turn red with anger. And get this he ACTUALLY believe that Bomberman is more iconic than Pacman (seriously). That's the truth. He actually believes that. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually beleved Shantai and Megaman are too :rolleyes: . I don't understand what's with his hatred for Pacman.
 

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I just got done watching a video about a woman discussing the sexism of damsels in distress in video games. The topic went from Popeye, to Donkey Kong, and then to the arcade game: Sheriff!

Deja Vu :urg:

Here's the video if ya want to see
 

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Who said anything about being likely or unlikely for Smash? I'm just saying he's incredibly stupid and would be a horrible addition. I don't see how having an opinion is immature. Also Bomberman doesn't throw Cherry Bombs. And Pac-Man is overrated, not Mega Man.



His move set should be based off the arcade game, not those Pac-Man World games. Those games were not part of what made him iconic, and thus shouldn't be the majority of his move set. If his move set was based off the arcade game he'd have 2 unimpressive moves.
How is pacman overrated when only a handful of people want him for smash, and the rest bash him for just being pacman. And its immature to go over the top to demean the most iconic video game character. And I only said megaman is overrated because so many people wanted him for the same reasons, he has a history with Nintendo and he's cool. Also, I never said that his entire moveset had to based on the world series, just check my moveset for him in the pacman for ssb4 forum, and why can't he have some world 2 moves in his moveset? Mega man has the uppercut from the Capcom vs marvel series, and many other characters have moves from outside their first game like Mario, Kirbby, and bowser. You shouldn't just forget the other games that he had because you don't like them, and not everything about a character's moveset has to be iconic. Mario's forward smash isn't. Unimpressive is such a subjective and opinionated word btw used by people who don't want a character for LEGITAMATE reasons that they can't list.
 

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There's probably a better place to post that video than the Roster Discussion Thread SaturnGamer.

*Claps* Bravo bravo! Ladies and gentlemen, THAT'S how you do it! THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!!! :shades: :shades: :shades:
Don't worry, Noah J. Linderer is probably the most immature and disrespectful forum user here so don't be surprised if he starts insulting you right now :shades:
I think you know better than to involve yourself in this situation in the manner you have chosen.
 

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I just got done watching a video about a woman discussing the sexism of damsels in distress in video games. The topic went from Popeye, to Donkey Kong, and then to the arcade game: Sheriff!

Deja Vu :urg:

Here's the video if ya want to see
stop trying to get the thread locked :glare:
 

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I just got done watching a video about a woman discussing the sexism of damsels in distress in video games. The topic went from Popeye, to Donkey Kong, and then to the arcade game: Sheriff!

Deja Vu :urg:

Here's the video if ya want to see
I don't know... like 25 minutes to watch a video? No thanks.

And seriously enough with the ****ing Sheriff. What's with your love with him?! He's not getting in. Seriously, he's just not getting in. He's a boring looking 8-bit character looks just awkward to look at. We already have Game and Watch, why do we need Sheriff???
If he did get in, then i guess that means so can Asteroids and Pong by that logic. Because if the Sheriff can get in, then so can anybody else in 8-bit games :glare:
 

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There's probably a better place to post that video than the Roster Discussion Thread SaturnGamer.



I think you know better than to involve yourself in this situation in the manner you have chosen.
Alright sorry about that. I was just getting tired of Noah's usual antics, so sorry about that.

But what about Hotfeet? What about Pacman9? What about GoldenYu/ What about everybody else that Noah gets into an argument with? Why not Noah himself? Why don't they ever get warnings like this??? Why?????
 

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Alright sorry about that. I was just getting tired of Noah's usual antics, so sorry about that.

But what about Hotfeet? What about Pacman9? What about GoldenYu/ What about everybody else that Noah gets into an argument with? Why not Noah himself? Why don't they ever get warnings like this??? Why?????
Exactly, wuts with the bias?
 

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Oh? Are we going back to crappy topics that are worth less than a protozoan's waste? Who cares, Sonic got announced today, too happy. I'm so happy right now that Yoshi is jealous. :p
 

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The Tales series is actually pretty popular here despite most of the games not getting western releases.
But not as much as pac-man is all im saying. The mascot of all mascots should come first IMO.
@Hotfeet444 Im okay with sonic as long as he is making room for the fourth icon in video games.
Pac-Man vs. Mario vs. Sonic vs. Megaman
Know what i'm sayin?
 

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*Claps* Bravo bravo! Ladies and gentlemen, THAT'S how you do it! THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!!! :shades: :shades: :shades:
Don't worry, Noah J. Linderer is probably the most immature and disrespectful forum user here so don't be surprised if he starts insulting you right now :shades: .
Is that why you messaged me crying and begging me to tell the moderators not to ban you, and graveled as you apologized for all your immature acts which you admit was childish? :troll: :troll: :troll: :troll:

Not to mention telling people to go fap off to furries, and that giant tantrum you messaged me that sounds like something that came out of a 4-Year old on a playground. :chuckle:

He is also the most ANTI-PACMAN user around here, like I swear anything related to Pacman and Noah will hate it with a passion. if you just mention the word Pacman in a sentence steam will be coming out of his ears and his face will turn red with anger.
I'm actually very calm when it comes to characters I hate and I agree that Pac-Man is likely. You on the other hand threw a big tantrum about Chrom and even laughed that he was on rosters.:troll:

And get this he ACTUALLY believe that Bomberman is more iconic than Pacman (seriously). That's the truth. He actually believes that.
Because you say so? I never once said he was more iconic. Only more affiliated with Nintendo and much cooler. You want to hear something really stupid? DD still thinks Lloyd Irving is a Nintendo character :cool:

We can go on and on about you if you really think it's worth it. ;)

stop trying to get the thread locked :glare:
By posting an interesting video related to an earlier subject?


Dude, I get it. You are a hardcore Pac-Man fan. I'm not. Deal with it.

and seriously enough with the ****ing Sheriff. What's with your love with him?!
I ****ing hate Peach, and I still have her on my roster. Liking or disliking a character has never influenced my addition of that character.

He's not getting in. Seriously, he's just not getting in.

He's a boring looking 8-bit character looks just awkward to look at.
Ice Climbers & Takamaru deconfiremed for Smash 4.

We already have Game and Watch, why do we need Sheriff???
I fail to see the logic in this comparison


If he did get in, then i guess that means so can Asteroids and Pong by that logic.
You mean 2 objects that are not owned by Nintendo nor are they characters?

Because if the Sheriff can get in, then so can anybody else in 8-bit games :glare:
You mean like: :bowser2: :charizard: :dedede: :dk2: :popo: :ivysaur: :jigglypuff: :kirby2: :link2: :luigi2: :mario2: :marth: :metaknight: :peach: :zelda: :warioc: :squirtle: :snake: :samus2: :pt: :pit: :pikachu2: :drmario: :pichumelee: and :mewtwomelee: ?
 

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Exactly, wuts with the bias?
I once had an argument with Noah over who was better for SSB4 - Pacman or Bomberman. I said Pacman because hes an iconic and important character to not just Nintendo but also video game history, and Noah said Bomberman because he ACTUALLY thought Bomberman is just as iconic, if not more important to video game history, because he has some recent titles. You know the usual arguments. "Oh Pacman is overrated." "Oh Pacman lost his prime" "Oh Pacman can't have a moveset because he's 2D and we can't have 3D because I dont like it". Stuff like that. Double standards. Again, it's the same guy who thinks Shantai is a better 3rd party choice than Pacman. :rolleyes:

He also thinks Bomberman is a certainty as a 3rd party character, as if Konami wont bring in Snake or Raiden or even Simon Belmont or Dracula instead. But trust me he's not the only one who thinks this way - it's pretty much an anti-Pacman zone around here. I don't understand it either. :ohwell:
 

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I reallt just don't think Snake is cut. I just don't. However, based on the fact that Pac-Man would truly make Smash Wii U a game of the century based on the fact that 4 Video Game Giants can duke it out, I am now almost certain he is going to be in.

That's right. 4 third parties. Come at me bro.
 
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