Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Chandeelure]

Question of opinion.

Do you guys think that Sakurai really takes certain things into account like we do? We know what his main four criteria are. Series balance, being unique, appeal, and....that one other thing that is currently not coming to me.

We base a lot of our thoughts on things that don't necessarily fit with his criteria. Series importance, etc... While importance to a series is clearly obvious (I mean come on, we have the 4 Mario, 4 Zelda, Decent Pokemon Lineup, etc...) it may not be as important now that the main characters are essentially done. Clearly Ridley would do well in completing Metroid, and K.Rool or Dixie for Donkey Kong.

What I mean is, do you actually think he thinks about it as hard as we do. Clearly a lot of reveals are going off of marketing. That isn't to say that EVERY character is going to be in to advertise something. However I think certain characters may benefit from such things, such as Palutena, Chrom, Mewtwo, etc.

Just by going off of "series balance", I think we'll see a 3rd Fire Emblem character based on how the series has grown, Ridley to give Metroid a 3rd character (ZSS is a pitiful "2nd character") and K.Rool or Dixie for Donkey Kong. (also Mewtwo for Pokemon). Otherwise, I don't know that too many series in Smash need an additional rep. Series like Mario, Yoshi, Wario Ware, Zelda, Pikmin, F-Zero, Star Fox, Mother and Kid Icarus do not necessarily need a series newcomer to be balanced out from my standpoint.

3rd parties are clearly 3rd parties. They really shouldn't get anything besides a character, music, trophies, and a stage. No additional characters are needed for a Nintendo first fighting/party game.

What do you guys think?

I think that we need another Kirby rep...
But...Who could it be?

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Didn't Sakurai say in an interview that character selection was "stressful to the point of death"?

I think he did. But "the point of death" is unknown. What that is for him may not be the same for us.

 

[?????????????]

Question of opinion.

Do you guys think that Sakurai really takes certain things into account like we do? We know what his main four criteria are. Series balance, being unique, appeal, and....that one other thing that is currently not coming to me.

We base a lot of our thoughts on things that don't necessarily fit with his criteria. Series importance, etc... While importance to a series is clearly obvious (I mean come on, we have the 4 Mario, 4 Zelda, Decent Pokemon Lineup, etc...) it may not be as important now that the main characters are essentially done. Clearly Ridley would do well in completing Metroid, and K.Rool or Dixie for Donkey Kong.

What I mean is, do you actually think he thinks about it as hard as we do. Clearly a lot of reveals are going off of marketing. That isn't to say that EVERY character is going to be in to advertise something. However I think certain characters may benefit from such things, such as Palutena, Chrom, Mewtwo, etc.

Just by going off of "series balance", I think we'll see a 3rd Fire Emblem character based on how the series has grown, Ridley to give Metroid a 3rd character (ZSS is a pitiful "2nd character") and K.Rool or Dixie for Donkey Kong. (also Mewtwo for Pokemon). Otherwise, I don't know that too many series in Smash need an additional rep. Series like Mario, Yoshi, Wario Ware, Zelda, Pikmin, F-Zero, Star Fox, Mother and Kid Icarus do not necessarily need a series newcomer to be balanced out from my standpoint.

3rd parties are clearly 3rd parties. They really shouldn't get anything besides a character, music, trophies, and a stage. No additional characters are needed for a Nintendo first fighting/party game.

What do you guys think?

I don't think he takes the consideration and balancing of character choices as seriously as we do. Not to say he doesn't care about it, he clearly does, but I don't think he stresses about why a character is good or bad.

This is all just theory, but...

I think Sakurai understands (as everyone should) who the most important characters in a series are; Mario, Link, Kirby, Bowser, etc.

Beyond that, when it comes to 1st party character choices, I think he has fairly "free" reign. With that, Sakurai adds (as we would) who he himself wants. These are either personal desires (Pit) or surprise characters for fun (Wii Fit Trainer).

When it comes to 2nd party characters, he may have personal desires as well, but he has to take the 2nd party company's desires into heavy consideration. In a way, the power shifts to these company's personal desires, or a compromise with Sakurai. 3rd parties are, of course, very special.

The last factor, then, is fan desires. Sakurai listens to his fans all over the globe and puts a lot of consideration into what fans want to see, but if it is something that really conflicts with what he wants in the game or what 2nd party companies want in the game, he won't pursue it.

Ultimately, Sakurai has the same things to think about as we do, but he also has to please the people around him, and he has the power to add characters he personally wants.

Because of these, I don't think he has to think as hard about who to add from the criteria that WE set. If he wants Pit, he's there. If he wants Wii Fit Trainer, she's there. If he wants Mewtwo, either the Pokemon Company has to agree, or he has to convince them. If fans want King K. Rool, then Sakurai will put consideration into it, but he gets the final say.

Why is there BrockXSudowoodo porn here?

It's Whispy Woods' fault.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I don't think he takes the consideration and balancing of character choices as seriously as we do. Not to say he doesn't care about, he clearly does, but I don't think he stresses about why a character is good or bad.

This is all just theory, but...

I think Sakurai understands (as everyone should) who the most important characters in a series are; Mario, Link, Kirby, Bowser, etc.

Beyond that, when it comes to 1st party character choices, I think he has fairly "free" reign. With that, Sakurai adds (as we would) who he himself wants. These are either personal desires (Pit) or surprise characters for fun (Wii Fit Trainer).

When it comes to 2nd party characters, he may have personal desires as well, but he has to take the 2nd party company's desires into heavy consideration. In a way, the power shifts to these company's personal desires, or a compromise with Sakurai. 3rd parties are, of course, very special.

The last factor, then, is fan desires. Sakurai listens to his fans all over the globe and puts a lot of consideration into what fans want to see, but if it something that really conflicts with what he wants in the game or what 2nd party companies want in the game, he won't pursue it.

Ultimately, Sakurai has the same things to think about as we do, but he also has to please the people around him, and he has the power to add characters he personally wants.

Because of these, I don't think he has to think as hard about who to add from the criteria that WE set. If he wants Pit, he's there. If he wants Wii Fit Trainer, she's there. If he wants Mewtwo, either the Pokemon Company has to agree, or he has to convince them. If fans want King K. Rool, then Sakurai will put consideration into it, but he gets the final say.

This is basically how I feel as well.

When I see people argue for Roy, I could see why Sakurai would want to put him in. But he doesn't really get free reign with that. That isn't how business works. IS owns Fire Emblem and the characters. So if Intelligent Systems is fine with Roy, then we'll get Roy. There's no problem with that. However, unless there are currently plans to remake FE6 or whichever it is, it will most likely not be Roy, but Chrom who gets selected (or if IS is already done creating a new lord, and that game is set to come out around the same time as Smash 4, it could be that one.)

Same thing with Pokemon. If Game Freak wants Mewtwo, we get Mewtwo (probably). IF there is a different character that he or GF wants, there may be discussion. I have the idea that because Sakurai said, "We're thinking about it" in regards to Mewtwo, that Mewtwo is at least one of his options, if not the absolute option. Ridley, K.Rool, Palutena, and several others are free reign to him most likely.

 

[Deleted member]

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too, if not getting them separately based on the release of those games.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too.

I'm scared because this would make so much sense. Heck, there's quite the chance we're getting a Direct in October, since it's the start of the last quarter (I think?), and the last major one was in early August. Seriously, it's actually a quite freaky coincidence if anything.

 

[?????????????]

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too.

I'd be okay with that. Pac-man and Mii are characters that I'm not crazy about, but I'm not against. They make sense.

Little Mac is my most wanted character, so...I'd be very happy.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Good afternoon all, hope you're all doing well today.

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too, if not getting them separately based on the release of those games.

While I'd love to see Little Mac, the other two don't really interest me that much. However, Sonic and Mewtwo in one month would make my year.

 

[BluePikmin11]

5 characters revealed on October, that would be insane to happen.
-Little Mac
-Pac-Man
-Mii
-Jigglypuff
-Sonic
That would be the best October ever.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too, if not getting them separately based on the release of those games.

Decent theory. That would be a lot of characters, but it's a decent theory nonetheless.

I was going to say, we should look at which series have anniversaries or games coming up in the near future. This could help determine who may get revealed and who wouldn't etc...

 

[NickerBocker]

Decent theory. That would be a lot of characters, but it's a decent theory nonetheless.

I was going to say, we should look at which series have anniversaries or games coming up in the near future. This could help determine who may get revealed and who wouldn't etc...

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. But at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if not. Sakurai tends to create ( or make us think hes creating) patterns, and then flips it 180 to surprise us all.

That being said, Pokemon x/y and tropical freeze will get a reveal. Mario 3d if theres another mario character, Lost world if Sonic is back.

I think nintendo will start giving us more, but has anyone noticed how hes moving along the roster? He did start with Olimar, but since then its been mario characters, now zelda. Some have been with game reveals, others not, but iys been moving from most popular to least, Mario and Zelda at the top, probably DK next...

Wait, does that correlate with game releases or the popularity....

GET OUT OF MY HEAD SAKURAI! :D

 

[Hotfeet444]

5 characters revealed on October, that would be insane to happen.
-Little Mac
-Pac-Man
-Mii
-Jigglypuff
-Sonic
That would be the best October ever.

Well, October usually is a large month for game releases, I can see it being within the realm of possibility.

 

[Bajef8]

You seem to be quite the Jigglypuff fan, is there a move that you would like to see her use in SSB4 ?

Not really. I think she should keep sing because it's a classic Jigglypuff thing to do. Rest is always fun, and it's an unexpected power move from a a non intimidating puff ball. Pound is hilarious. Roll out, while fun in free for alls or team battles, is probably a bit more expendable in my mind.

Question of opinion.

Do you guys think that Sakurai really takes certain things into account like we do? We know what his main four criteria are. Series balance, being unique, appeal, and....that one other thing that is currently not coming to me.

We base a lot of our thoughts on things that don't necessarily fit with his criteria. Series importance, etc... While importance to a series is clearly obvious (I mean come on, we have the 4 Mario, 4 Zelda, Decent Pokemon Lineup, etc...) it may not be as important now that the main characters are essentially done. Clearly Ridley would do well in completing Metroid, and K.Rool or Dixie for Donkey Kong.

What I mean is, do you actually think he thinks about it as hard as we do. Clearly a lot of reveals are going off of marketing. That isn't to say that EVERY character is going to be in to advertise something. However I think certain characters may benefit from such things, such as Palutena, Chrom, Mewtwo, etc.

Just by going off of "series balance", I think we'll see a 3rd Fire Emblem character based on how the series has grown, Ridley to give Metroid a 3rd character (ZSS is a pitiful "2nd character") and K.Rool or Dixie for Donkey Kong. (also Mewtwo for Pokemon). Otherwise, I don't know that too many series in Smash need an additional rep. Series like Mario, Yoshi, Kirby, Wario Ware, Zelda, Pikmin, F-Zero, Star Fox, Mother and Kid Icarus do not necessarily need a series newcomer to be balanced out from my standpoint.

3rd parties are clearly 3rd parties. They really shouldn't get anything besides a character, music, trophies, and a stage. No additional characters are needed for a Nintendo first fighting/party game.

What do you guys think?

Well I think really the biggest stressor for us and our predictions is the uncertainty. Let me elaborate.
First of all, the ever obvious fact that we are not the ones making the roster, therefore, we worry because Sakurai and his team are the only ones who know it.
2nd, we have our own predetermined thoughts of what a "good" roster would be. Therefore the uncertainty makes us stress out because we do not know for sure if the newcomers or vets we want will show up.
3rd, we stress out because almost all of the obvious and major choices have already showed up in Brawl (and most likely the next game), so we aren't sure what to base our predictions on anymore. If we have no solid foundation to build our predictions on, it causes us stress to scramble around and try to justify our choices.

Those are the reasons I think character choices this time around stress us out a lot more than the big man himself. It's not like he can mess up anymore, all the big ones have been repped already. Now it's mostly just up to his preferences.

 

[8-peacock-8]

5 characters revealed on October, that would be insane to happen.
-Little Mac
-Pac-Man
-Mii
-Jigglypuff
-Sonic
That would be the best October ever.

I would love for this to happen. Too bad it's not likely.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Not really. I think she should keep sing because it's a classic Jigglypuff thing to do. Rest is always fun, and it's an unexpected power move from a a non intimidating puff ball. Pound is hilarious. Roll out, while fun in free for alls or team battles, is probably a bit more expendable in my mind.


Well I think really the biggest stressor for us and our predictions is the uncertainty. Let me elaborate.
First of all, the ever obvious fact that we are not the ones making the roster, therefore, we worry because Sakurai and his team are the only ones who know it.
2nd, we have our own predetermined thoughts of what a "good" roster would be. Therefore the uncertainty makes us stress out because we do not know for sure if the newcomers or vets we want will show up.
3rd, we stress out because almost all of the obvious and major choices have already showed up in Brawl (and most likely the next game), so we aren't sure what to base our predictions on anymore. If we have no solid foundation to build our predictions on, it causes us stress to scramble around and try to justify our choices.

Those are the reasons I think character choices this time around stress us out a lot more than the big man himself. It's not like he can mess up anymore, all the big ones have been repped already. Now it's mostly just up to his preferences.

If we have all the major choices, this may leave space for tons of retros!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Not really. I think she should keep sing because it's a classic Jigglypuff thing to do. Rest is always fun, and it's an unexpected power move from a a non intimidating puff ball. Pound is hilarious. Roll out, while fun in free for alls or team battles, is probably a bit more expendable in my mind.

I wouldn't mind Rollout and Sing to be replaced. Sing could always be put to a taunt position, because it's useless, and it's too dangerous to make it viable since Jigglypuff has Rest. It's really nothing more than a taunt right now anyways, and a lot of characters have their signature things as taunts (Mario growing big, Link and Navi, Ganon-sword.) Pound is good at changing velocity, and Rest is one of the most fun moves in the game, though I wouldn't mind Pound being changed I wouldn't mind it staying either.

 

[FlareHabanero]

inb4theorydebunkedandeveryoneisanalaboutit.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

inb4theorydebunkedandeveryoneisanalaboutit.

Considering I'd rather want the "leak" to be false, I'm not gonna be pissy about it. Even then, expecting 3 newcomers is pretty whacko in a sense, I wouldn't expect something like that outside of E3.

 

[Morbi]

I wouldn't mind Rollout and Sing to be replaced. Sing could always be put to a taunt position, because it's useless, and it's too dangerous to make it viable since Jigglypuff has Rest. It's really nothing more than a taunt right now anyways, and a lot of characters have their signature things as taunts (Mario growing big, Link and Navi, Ganon-sword.) Pound is good at changing velocity, and Rest is one of the most fun moves in the game, though I wouldn't mind Pound being changed I wouldn't mind it staying either.

Since we are talking about Jigglypuff move-sets. I think it would be really cool if they replaced her side smash with the elemental punches. Fire Punch would be up first. Just a quick jab. Thunder Punch if you charge it for a little bit. This would increase the hit-stun. Ice Punch would be last and only acquired after a full charge. It would freeze the enemy for a second or two. Just something I thought would be cool.

As a Jigglypuff main... I wouldn't be able to use her very well without Rollout. It is one of her only good KO moves.

 

[Deleted member]

Jigglypuff having the elemental punches would be really random at this point, no offense.

I feel that only changes should be for new Fairy moves it can learn.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Since we are talking about Jigglypuff move-sets. I think it would be really cool if they replaced her side smash with the elemental punches. Fire Punch would be up first. Just a quick jab. Thunder Punch if you charge it for a little bit. This would increase the hit-stun. Ice Punch would be last and only acquired after a full charge. It would freeze the enemy for a second or two. Just something I thought would be cool.

As a Jigglypuff main... I wouldn't be able to use her very well without Rollout. It is one of her only good KO moves.

Would Gyro Ball be a better alternative if it didn't leave Jigglypuff helpless after ramming into someone? That's a flaw that Rollout has, and what's worse, you can't grab ledges.

 

[Deleted member]

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too, if not getting them separately based on the release of those games.

This is something I could seen. Pac-Man, Mii and Little Mac are all but guarantee anyway, so might as well show them off now instead of holding them back until later.

 

[Morbi]

Jigglypuff having the elemental punches would be really random at this point, no offense.

I feel that only changes should be for new Fairy moves it can learn.

I agree, I just thought it would have been a cool gimmick. I think the reason most people don't really want Jigglypuff to return is not based on her being irrelevant. I think it has more to do with her stagnant move-sets and bland appearance. Lets be real. She is a pink ball. If you thought Little Mac would be generic, you only need to take one look at Jigglypuff. Her only redeemable moves are her specials. So if they changed some things to make her moves more aesthetically pleasing, she might be a little more popular.

I was mostly just throwing the idea out there. It is something I wanted for the longest time. Just like Luigi's Poltergust.

Would Gyro Ball be a better alternative if it didn't leave Jigglypuff helpless after ramming into someone? That's a flaw that Rollout has, and what's worse, you can't grab ledges.

That is true. I think Gyro Ball would be a better alternative. Any buffs really, I am tired of characters like Link and Samus ALWAYS getting the short end of the stick. Not to mention character like Jigglypuff and Ganon being great, and then dropping to bottom. It really makes me question Sakurai's competence when it comes to balancing the game.

 

[Chandeelure]

Conspiracy theory time: We will get a new trailer in October.

Remember that old list of characters that would be revealed at E3 that only half came true? Remember the other half? Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis.
Look at October:

-Mike Tyson's Punch-Out's anniversary in North America (where it first came out)
-Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures video game release on the 29th
-Wii Party U release on various days around the globe

The conspiracy that I just came up with is that because all three have something in October, they will all be shown off at the same time then. And with Sonic Lost World and Pokémon X/Y, we might get Sonic and at least one Pokémon character too, if not getting them separately based on the release of those games.

That sounds cool,but,I'm the only one who don't like Mii and Pacman at all? :/

 

[Morbi]

That sounds cool,but,I'm the only one who don't like Mii and Pacman at all? :/

No. Actually the common consensus is that no one really wants Miis to be in the game. Most people think that it would be a detriment to the game. Pac-Man is a little more ambiguous. I suspect people don't want him, but most people think he is inevitable. So it comes across as support; however, they aren't necessarily keen on the notion.

 

[Louie G.]

Talking about Jigglypuff? Better tell Saturngamer.
Anyway, I think that Sing should be her Standard B instead of her Up B. It has no recovery potential whatsoever. Plus, it's a Jigglypuff signature move.
Rest stays, Melee-ify it though.
Rollout becomes Side B. It would work well like that.
Up B is a new Fairy Type move.
Pound can go really. It's a little bit lame for a special move.
Peach's old Final Smash becomes Jiggs' new one.
There. Jigglypuff is ready for Smash 4.

 

[DarrylTrainer]

No. Actually the common consensus is that no one really wants Miis to be in the game. Most people think that it would be a detriment to the game. Pac-Man is a little more ambiguous. I suspect people don't want him, but most people think he is inevitable. So it comes across as support; however, they aren't necessarily keen on the notion.

Speak for yourself! I've wanted Miis in since Brawl was in the making. A lot of people want them. And Pac-Man would be f**king awesome!!

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Talking about Jigglypuff? Better tell Saturngamer.
Anyway, I think that Sing should be her Standard B instead of her Up B. It has no recovery potential whatsoever. Plus, it's a Jigglypuff signature move.
Rest stays, Melee-ify it though.
Rollout becomes Side B. It would work well like that.
Up B is a new Fairy Type move.
Pound can go really. It's a little bit lame for a special move.
Peach's old Final Smash becomes Jiggs' new one.
There. Jigglypuff is ready for Smash 4.

Hate to tell you this, but Sing has not been exclusive to Jigglypuff for a long time.

 

[Morbi]

Talking about Jigglypuff? Better tell Saturngamer.
Anyway, I think that Sing should be her Standard B instead of her Up B. It has no recovery potential whatsoever. Plus, it's a Jigglypuff signature move.
Rest stays, Melee-ify it though.
Rollout becomes Side B. It would work well like that.
Up B is a new Fairy Type move.
Pound can go really. It's a little bit lame for a special move.
Peach's old Final Smash becomes Jiggs' new one.
There. Jigglypuff is ready for Smash 4.

No. I would die a little if they got rid of double slap!

Speak for yourself! I've wanted Miis in since Brawl was in the making. A lot of people want them. And Pac-Man would be f**king awesome!!

Really? I can't tell if this is sarcasm. I mean Pac-Man wouldn't be so bad... but Miis? Especially with Villager already in the game? I mean if you could make Villager your own personal Mii that would be fine with me.

 

[Louie G.]

Hate to tell you this, but Sing has not been exclusive to Jigglypuff for a long time.

I know, but it is her most well known and iconic move. Getting rid of it would be like getting rid of Falcon Punch.
Not gonna happen.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Hate to tell you this, but Sing has not been exclusive to Jigglypuff for a long time.

It's still Jigglypuff who's most well known to use it. Sure it's no Spacial Rend or Roar of Time for Jigglypuff since so many Pokémons have Sing, but it's pretty much always connected to Jigglypuff, much like Metronome is to Clefairy. Not unique to 'Puff, but it's more than often connected to her.

 

[Morbi]

I know, but it is her most well known and iconic move. Getting rid of it would be like getting rid of Falcon Punch.
Not gonna happen.

At the same time... who even uses Sing? It seems like a pretty worthless move. Maybe if they buffed the range and recovery...

 

[Onyx Oblivian]

Personally, I would be fine with customizable Miis if they weren't allowed online. Only because I wouldn't want to go online and just see a bunch of Homer Simpsons and Hitlers. Haha

Now, if they put in Miis, would they allow customization? Or do you think there will only be preselected Mii looks?

 

[Louie G.]

Personally, I would be fine with customizable Miis if they weren't allowed online. Only because I wouldn't want to go online and jusr see a bunch of Homer Simpsons and Hitlers. Haha

Now, if they put in Miis, would they allow customization? Or will there be like preselected Mii looks?

Preselected Mii looks would ruin the purpose of Mii even being there.
Customization for sure. And it would definitely be allowed online.
Yep, Mario Kart 7 all over again.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

That sounds cool,but,I'm the only one who don't like Mii and Pacman at all? :/

Everyone hates mii's, I mean why add them if villager is somewhat the same moveset and I think wiifit trainer is already enough to represent the casual wii series. As for pac-man... people don't necessarily hate him, its just he doesn't increase the hype factor for them, but if namco is going to get a character then it would most likely be him.

Edit: also sing will be a taunt, just watch lol and maybe another taunt gets ya to draw on peoples faces (ok they 2nd one probably won't happen, it be funny tho)

 

[Louie G.]

At the same time... who even uses Sing? It seems like a pretty worthless move. Maybe if they buffed the range and recovery...

I was going to say "Who uses Jigglypuff anymore?", but then I saw that you do.

 

[Sharkarat]

Hate to tell you this, but Sing has not been exclusive to Jigglypuff for a long time.

Or he's just not using pokemon's definition of signature move.

Really? I can't tell if this is sarcasm. I mean Pac-Man wouldn't be so bad... but Miis? Especially with Villager already in the game? I mean if you could make Villager your own personal Mii that would be fine with me.

Except that they're both casual Character with somewhat similar design, they don't have much in common. Almost none of villager's known moves would really fit on Mii.
Edit: I Don't support Mii.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I was going to say "Who uses Jigglypuff anymore?", but then I saw that you do.

I use jiggly as a kirby alt in melee sometimes, (tho i usually go marth, why do low tiers suck so hard in melee? :/) (tho kirby is still mah main!)

If you seen or go to melee tourneys, a ton of ppl main jiggly. (and marth/faux lol)

 

[Louie G.]

I use jiggly as a kirby alt in melee sometimes, (tho i usually go marth, why do low tiers suck so hard in melee? :/) (tho kirby is still mah main!)

If you seen or go to melee tourneys, a ton of ppl main jiggly. (and marth/faux lol)

Which is why I said "anymore." She was great in Melee.

 

[Morbi]

Or he's just not using pokemon's definition of signature move.

Except that they're both casual Character with somewhat similar design, they don't have much in common. Almost none of villager's known moves would fit on Mii.

I think Villager is literally a Mii though. Like I could boot up my Wii U and make a Mii with the same hair, eyes, and nose. Make it wear a red shirt... voila. Aside from that, I think a Mii would draw lots of correlations from Villager. The boxing gloves maybe alluding to Wii Sports. The retro balloon fighter thing could easily be assigned to a Mii. Random attacks like bowling balls and plants might relate to the generic yet random attributes of Miis. I just think it could work.

I was going to say "Who uses Jigglypuff anymore?", but then I saw that you do.

Jigglypuff is Jigglypuff, bro! I am used to maining bottom characters anyways.