Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Godzillathewonderdog]

That leaves us with Takamaru, Mach Rider, and Duck Hunt Dog as possible retro newcomers from the NES era.

Mike Jones.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Why would they add an America-only character?

 

[BluePikmin11]

To make the roster more diverse with an American Nintendo character, but I doubt Mike Jones is happening since its all about Japan.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Why would they add an America-only character?

They most likely won't, but he's still worth mentioning.

 

[Diddy Kong]

More diverse with an American-only character? How?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Mike Jones is basically a taller Ness, but more revolving around his yo-yo.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Why would they add an America-only character?

Why did they go through with adding Japan-only characters in the international versions of Melee?

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[Godzillathewonderdog]

I'd be awesome if we got both Takamaru and Mike Jones. A classic character exclusive to Japan and a classic character exclusive to North America and Europe.

 

[jaytalks]

I don't think the only localized in certain areas doesn't matter in itself. But the Smash games have a huge focus on Japanese developed titles, especially the one from certain creators.

When it comes to retro characters, don't forget about portable only characters like Muddy Mole and Prince Sable.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Poor Muddy and Sable are always ignored.

 

[jaytalks]

I think with the 3DS getting a portable game focus, they have a good shot. Muddy Mole might have the best shot since he is a Miyamoto Creation.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Poor Muddy and Sable are always ignored.

We were just talking about NES classics. I actually support Muddy Mole, Sable on the other hand...

 

[BluePikmin11]

Opinion: I think Sable is more unique than Mudsy.
A Transforming Prince, I don't think we have one of those.

Also to talk about Nintendog, I think we never a had a character from a pet simulation genre.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Why did they go through with adding Japan-only characters in the international versions of Melee?

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Made in Japan.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Opinion: I think Sable is more unique than Mudsy.

I remember we talked about this several months ago. I still disagree.

 

[NickerBocker]

I could see Mike Jones as an AT (unfortunately) but as with most Japanese Nintendo games, there is a japanese bias. Sakurai knows about and has played japan only games, but he might not be so informed when it comes to western only games.

 

[BluePikmin11]

To be truthful, I never researched about Mole Mania, it never caught my interest as of yet.
So yeah maybe I will favor more of Muddy than Sable when I get the time to watch some gameplay.

 

[Diddy Kong]

American-only.

We in Europe only know this Mike Jones:

 

[BluePikmin11]

I literally watched entire playthrough of For The Frog The Bell Tolls during summer, it was well worth watching, and really caught my interest. I wonder if it'll be the same for Muddy.

 

[jaytalks]

in terms of video game generations, certain GB characters are members of the NES video game generation (3rd), arguably.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

American-only.


We in Europe only know this Mike Jones:

If Mike Jones was added into Smash Bros. and become really popular because of it, I can just picture him singing "Back then they didn't want me, now I'm hot they all know me."

I literally watched entire playthrough of For The Frog The Bell Tolls during summer, it was well worth watching, and really caught my interest. I wonder if it'll be the same for Muddy.

I don't know, do you enjoy watching puzzle games?

 

[?????????????]

Another retro possibility that I don't see often is Donbe and Hikari (or even just Donbe) from Shin Onigashima.

I think older Donbe from part 2 of Shin Onigashima could be interesting.

 

[Louie G.]

Another retro possibility that I don't see often is Donbe and Hikari (or even just Donbe) from Shin Onigashima.

I think older Donbe from part 2 of Shin Onigashima could be interesting.

What about that guy in the top left corner? You know who I'm talkin' about...

 

[AEMehr]

Opinion: I think Sable is more unique than Muddy.
A Transforming Prince, I don't think we have one of those.

While the Prince of Sablé can transform into a frog and snake, we already have two (arguably three) transforming characters in Zelda / Sheik, Pokémon Trainer, and Samus / Zero Suit Samus. While Muddy Mole has the ability to burrow underground, which is something we haven't seen done by any playable character before.

Also to talk about Nintendog, I think we never a had a character from a pet simulation genre.

We will have 4/5 characters once Pokémon X and Y are released.

 

[Starbound]

Diskun could be kinda cool. He's got feet and those little stubs could work as arms.

 

[Louie G.]

Diskun could be kinda cool. He's got feet and those little stubs could work as arms.

He fits the bill perfectly.
If we get another Game and Watch or ROB (and it isn't Wii Fit Trainer), Diskun or Sheriff would be perfect. They both are a big part of Nintendo history and nobody is expecting them.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I don't know, do you enjoy watching puzzle games?

I like to play those kinds of games on my own, like Pushmo. I like to figure it out on my own.

 

[jaytalks]

Pikachu was already in a Pet Simulation game with Hey You, Pikachu!

 

[Starbound]

Wasn't Sheriff shown to not be Nintendo's first character, but some kind of horse jockey was?

 

[Hotfeet444]

Wow...one page in the seven hours I'm gone...this is one hell of a slow day.

Diskun could be kinda cool. He's got feet and those little stubs could work as arms.

I've seen people request this character but I must ask since I haven't taken time to research movesets for said character, what could he (he/she/it?) fight exactly? At least for characters like that, Mr. AR would be another funny choice that represents a newer concept taken by Nintendo. he could use cards from various franchises to attack as there's a ton of them out there.

 

[BluePikmin11]

But it's not normally the genre all the time.

 

[Starbound]

I've seen people request this character but I must ask since I haven't taken time to research movesets for said character, what could he (he/she/it?) fight exactly? At least for characters like that, Mr. AR would be another funny choice that represents a newer concept taken by Nintendo. he could use cards from various franchises to attack as there's a ton of them out there.

Probably similar to how you envision Mr. AR. Diskun is the "mascot" of the Famicom Disc System in Japan, so he could feasibly take moves from one-shot games on the Famicom that don't have the stardom to make it as their own characters in Smash.

Such games could include: NES Sports (Baseball, Golf, Tennis, etc), Hot Rally, Shin Onigashima, Excitebike, Clu Clu Land and Pinball.

 

[Louie G.]

What if Diskun used the NES Zapper, controller, and other peripherals?

Spoiler

And the Power Glove, because it's so bad.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I thought DHD would use the NES Zapper, since that sorta suits him well as a projectile weapon.
I think the NES Zapper should be fast as R.O.B.'s laser, only it makes people dizzy and not take damage.

 

[Louie G.]

I thought DHD would use the NES Zapper, since that sorta suits him well as a projectile weapon.
I think the NES Zapper should be fast as R.O.B.'s laser, only it makes people dizzy and not take damage.

I do agree with Duck Hunt Dog having the zapper.
Whoever gets in first I suppose.

 

[BluePikmin11]

While the Prince of Sablé can transform into a frog and snake, we already have two (arguably three) transforming characters in Zelda / Sheik, Pokémon Trainer, and Samus / Zero Suit Samus. While Muddy Mole has the ability to burrow underground, which is something we haven't seen done by any playable character before.
We will have 4/5 characters once Pokémon X and Y are released.

I don't think it's established well enough as Sable, as you could rely on different forms (Snake with power) (Frog with Speed and Agility)
to win a match. Sable is all about transformation in his game.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I don't think it's established well enough as Sable, as you could rely on different forms (Snake with power) (Frog with Speed and Agility)
to win a match. Sable is all about transformation in his game.

Don't forget about the corny cartoon tussle clouds.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Oh yeah that's what makes Sable in his normal form unique as well, He's all around unique.

 

[Michael Blaine]

Oh boy, Diskun DOES seem like something Sakurai would do.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

He needs that as his B move. It'd work just like in the original game.