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Lol.
Fine, I'll keep Jigglypuff. But everything else I'll keep.
Jigglypuff would probably be the most likely out of all Pokemon characters to return seeing as she's a three-time veteran and a staple to the series, she got in instead of Mewtwo in Brawl so that most certainly says something about her impact in the Smashverse.
I think it's very clear that after the way you've slandered the Earthbound series that you easily know nothing about what's the most appeasing roster for the Smashverse.Pokemon and Fire Emblem Representatives. Here are my ideas:
Pokemon:
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Mewtwo
Zoroark
Fire Emblem:
Marth
Ike
Roy
Honestly, I don't see the need for either Jigglypuff (slot wasting and too Kirby-like) or any other Fire Emblem character (a series I don't care for, personally). Truthfully, this seems like the most realistic but also appeasing roster for the Smashverse to enjoy.
Fixed, as I saw a major oversight in said comment that almost made me pull out the trainwreck video again.
To be fair, for the first two games it kind of made sense to include Jigglypuff considering she was a recurring character in the Anime and she was included to fill in the niche of a joke character. During Brawl however, it felt a tad more awkward due to Jigglypuff pretty much falling off the map.
If you make your descions because, as you put it, don't care or don't know anything about there series then you shouldn't try to guess for that series and actually do some reading up on what other people think of the situation. e_ePokemon and Fire Emblem Representatives. Here are my ideas:
Pokemon:
Pikachu
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Mewtwo
Zoroark
Fire Emblem:
Marth
Ike
Roy
Honestly, I don't see the need for either Jigglypuff (slot wasting and too Kirby-like) or any other Fire Emblem character (a series I don't care for, personally). Truthfully, this seems like the most realistic but also appeasing roster for the Smashverse to enjoy.
Right, but even then she made it in over Mewtwo, so putting her above Zoroark isn't too much of a stretch by any means.
I lol'd.
Well, I'd personally suggest that Jigglypuff got into Brawl due to being an incredibly easy character to code and add in. Sakurai and the team typically recreate characters from the ground up in Smash, even when he's working on veterans (or so interviews with him would suggest), but Jigglypuff feels like one of the only characters that was pretty much lifted straight from the previous game, same animations and all. Heck, even her Final Smash looked like a cheap job - they just used an existing animation and made her model grow in size.
Jigglypuff would probably be the most likely out of all Pokemon characters to return seeing as she's a three-time veteran and a staple to the series, she got in instead of Mewtwo in Brawl so that most certainly says something about her impact in the Smashverse.
Honestly, I really like both characters. Both are some of my favorites.
I'm not the only one... look at other users, like the one with the Lugia avatar. I have my supporters in this discussion. Fire Emblem is too much of a cult-like, small niche, almost hipster even, franchise that doesn't really need anymore representation (other than keep Marth, Roy, and Ike). If it's Fire-Emblem-fanboyism that's clouding your judgement on this, then I can't help you on that. Just know that the truth does hurt, because what Sakurai and the Smashverse want isn't just what you and the Fire Emblem fans want.
You need to speak for everybody in the Smashverse, not just a fringe group.
I think it's almost impossible to not notice the demand for K.Rool at this point, especially if the statement of him being just as popular and wanted in Japan as he is here in North America is true. It's the Ridley demand that I hope gets noticed, especially considering with Ridley being one of, if not the most, wanted Newcomer for said game. The problem is Metroid isn't as popular overseas as it is here, but hey, I think it's warranted another character, as do many others.
Wait... so THAT doesn't count as spam? So Noah can do whatever he wants now, is that it? That discussion ended quite a while ago, and yet Noah insists on wasting everybody's time by bringing it up again when it's irrelevant tot he current discussion. That's not fair.
Not sure if a rimshot is appropriate in this situation....Honestly, I really like both characters. Both are some of my favorites.
Interestingly, though, to add to the anti-thesis thing, Chrom's Falchion is extra powerful against dragons, wyverns, and fell-dragons, so it sort of makes him another opposite for Tiki.
I'M SOOOOORRRRRYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!ahem, that's my joke you stole from me.
It's mostly from Fire Emblem fanboys who want to over-represent an extremely overrated series (people compare it to Tales and Xenoblade!). Honestly, we should bring back a decloned Roy, because if Mewtwo should return, so should Roy.
If the sells of Awakening are anything to go by. FE won't be staying niche for much longer. You also obviously don't realize the FE is one of the more popular niche series out there, and you obviously don't realize the amount of FE fans in the Smashverse, just go look at some of the FE threads on this whole forum site alone. And for someone who doesn't know or care about the series itself who are you to say Roy should be in over another character?I'm not the only one... look at other users, like the one with the Lugia avatar. I have my supporters in this discussion. Fire Emblem is too much of a cult-like, small niche, almost hipster even, franchise that doesn't really need anymore representation (other than keep Marth, Roy, and Ike). If it's Fire-Emblem-fanboyism that's clouding your judgement on this, then I can't help you on that. Just know that the truth does hurt, because what Sakurai and the Smashverse want isn't just what you and the Fire Emblem fans want.
Generally more people here are for Roy than the other four, it's just that the common ones against him are the "irrelevant" thing, which is false, and the belief that he's the weakest lord of all, which if I remember correctly, is false as well.
I only care about Roy because to me, he (and Marth and Ike) will always be a Smash character moreso than they ever will be Fire Emblem characters... just like Ice Climbers and Game & Watch are moreso Smash characters than characters of their own series. So no, I don't give a damn about the Fire Emblem series and I don't care if it makes others cry in their sleep... but I don care about Smash characters. That's what Roy is and forever wll be remembered as - a Smash character. And please, stop overrating Fire Emblem. It's a nobody-cares-for series, and always has and always will. Get over it.
You have to use some discretion on what to actually complain about, or you're just going to get set off at every minor thing. Posting something that was the topic like a page ago isn't a huge crime, especially since even though he was making a joke (that apparently he took from someone else, for shame NoahWait... so THAT doesn't count as spam? So Noah can do whatever he wants now, is that it? That discussion ended quite a while ago, and yet Noah insists on wasting everybody's time by bringing it up again when it's irrelevant tot he current discussion. That's not fair.
) he was also making a point in how ridiculous the argument over getting sued for the same name is.
Pink, round objects? Check. Similar weight class and height? Check. Cute characters with big eyes and small arms and legs? Check. Largely the same regular attacks, including slaps? Check. Both have floating abilities? Check. They have their difference, don't get me wrong. But their similarities are even more apparent.
The thing is Roy was cut in Brawl, so his return is debatable, especially being from a series with a large cast of important characters. It doesn't really matter how you think of the series, tbh.
It has more support, as far as I can tell. Shulk is universally popular within the Smashverse, whereas Chrom and Lucina are not.
Roy is a tricky case. I have no initial problem with Roy as a character, even though he rightfully earns his nickname "Fiery Marth". What I do have a problem with is the reasons he was included which are overlooked by many who speculate his return. Roy was a character that, at the time, was an advertisement for the new Fire Emblem title, being a brand new character and the only Super Smash Bros character in Smash history to be included before his/her debut game. The problem not only lies in his style copying, which can be changed, he just doesn't feel important in the slightest. It's not like Ike, who was a character fans of the franchise connected to in two different games and his importance was established before his Smash Bros reveal, Roy was practically the opposite. And, even now, Roy is still unimportant to Fire Emblem, and not even the DLC in Awakening is enough to give him enough warranty as a returning character. It's not like Mewtwo, who's always been super-popular and relevant in more than one form of media at a time. It's like those who want Lyn in the game, when she's practically in the same boat.
It does not have more support. It does not have more popularity. It has twelve fewer games in its franchise atm, and if you don't believe me about popularity you can go check where Shulk places in the Poll thread in relation to Chrom (hint: lower).
tbh, that's because there's only one main character in Xenoblade, Shulk. Fire Emblem have many games most having different main characters and so it is more debatable of who would be in.
Chrom has slightly more requests among Western fans than Shulk does, but I think what you are getting at is that people don't really object to Shulk whereas they do to Chrom.
It's a reference to your "legal Goku" Bull. We are allowed to discuss older subjects and start new subjects, we aren't going to stay on one topic for ETERNITY.Wait... so THAT doesn't count as spam? So Noah can do whatever he wants now, is that it? That discussion ended quite a while ago, and yet Noah insists on wasting everybody's time by bringing it up again when it's irrelevant tot he current discussion. That's not fair.
