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I don't think that's necessarily the case. Toon Link did get lots of trophies in Brawl, that is true. However, if you look at the trophies in Brawl, they all, for the most part, have one thing in common - they're either from a fairly recent Gamecube/Wii game, they're a 2D sprite, or they're a model used within Brawl itself. What I'm suggesting here is that Paper Mario got a lot of trophies out of pure laziness, because it was simply very easy to import those character designs from one game into another. It's for these reasons that we primarily got TP/TWW Zelda trophies, Mario Strikers trophies and so on, and it's for these same reasons that games without many recent 3D games to take models/characters from - such as Fire Emblem, WarioWare, Yoshi and Earthbound - got barely any trophies at all.
What's funny is DK64 (Even if it was on GCN) is more dated enough to justify a remake more. Though wouldn't they have to get Rare on board? They're quite busy with the Xbox One.
Don't burst to assumptions.
I feel his character comes from the fact that he rarely gets in on the action. He's kind of like Luigi in terms of personality. Being a filler NPC, as silly as this may sound, is his gimmick. Just like Luigi's gimmick was being Player 2. However it was taken a step further. Why does Luigi only help out and rarely get in on the action himself? Because he'd rather sit back and let Mario do it/he is too scared. Why does Toad rarely get in on the action? Same reasons perhaps, but he still wants to help out in some fashion no matter how small, hence why he's "Player 4," I guess, and why he only helps out with minor things. At least that's how I see his character. I especially get that vibe with the Toad Brigade. Though I'm probably just digging too deep.
What you say does make sense, except the part of the "Shy Guy Brigade." It wouldn't make sense since Shy Guys are generally enemies, but I see what you were getting at regardless.
No, not really Sakurai could of had this info prior E3. Lucario been in every Generation since it's debut in gen IV, since it is quite possible Lucario is Gen VI having being in a couple of trailers and new MegaEvolution. Lucario seems to be much safer.
^ This. Funfact is if I remember correctly, Lucario was one of the first added characters onto the brawl roster along with Lucas and Ike. If they have anything from Gen 6, it's this.
i dont know if they would need Rare necessarily. i mean Nintendo owns the intellectual rights to Donkey Kong so I'm sure they could do it if they wanted to. and they were able to get Rare to develop Diddy Kong Racing DS so i dont think it's out of the question for them to develop a remake to 64. and as of right now Rare isn't working on anything for the Xbox One besides Kinect Sports Rivals
Do you have a source for this?
Please don't jinx it... The last thing that is needed is to be disappointed during your birthday month.
Unfortunately, no. This was something I heard at some point somewhere, which sucks. It was probably in this thread too and I'm not looking through 451+ pages even if you pay me.
>Killer Instinct
Rare isnt working on Killer Instinct. Double Helix is.
That's probably overrepping Pokemon. If we had 5 Pokemon characters than we would have a Mario newcomer and a Zelda newcomer also.
They are incredibly lazy with the trophies in Brawl, but Pra_Mai could still be Paper Mario.
Which we probably will..
There's not much exciting (in general) options for a Zelda newcomer. As for Mario, maybe Toad, but it's not necessary.
That's not true at all. Zelda doesn't need anymore reps and they don't HAVE to have a fifth. 5 Pokemon makes all the sense in the world because we may face cuts and should have a newcomer Pokemon. As long as Mario has 5 reps we can have 5 Pokemon reps.
Ah well. It still sounds pretty fishy to me, I don't doubt that they were among the first chosen, but the very first? I suspect characters like Diddy, Wario, Snake, etc. were probably chosen beforehand.
Well it is confirmed that Sakurai wanted a new FE character before he even decided on Ike, and Ike was included due to IS's suggestion, but that's about the extent that's been confirmed I believe.
SSE was made after the initial group of core newcomers (basically all the newcomers other than Wolf, Toon Link, Sonic, and the Forbidden 7) were finalized to be in the game, so really who has the largest/most-important roles in the SSE isn't really indicative of when they were chosen to be included in Brawl (with a few exceptions ofc).
Unless it's on the 3DS, it's not going to come from Rare. And IIRC Rare closed their portable division a while ago. And I doubt Microsoft would allow them to work on a game as large as DK64, it'd take away from developing the crap they do now.
That's not overrepping Pokemon, that's how many Pokemon was going to have in Brawl. Those are actually the exact characters it was going to have in Brawl (minus the new versions ofc).
It could be, but it's very unlikely. I don't know much about Japanese but I've been in a similar position to you once and got corrected due to the fact that 'Pra' and 'Mai' are apparently not characters that would be used to make up the name Paper Mario in Japanese. For that matter, Sakurai has named every character pretty clearly in the past - the only character with such an ambiguous name was Roy in Melee, who was given a generic filler name due to the fact that Sakurai didn't know which second Fire Emblem character he was going to include as a last-minute clone. It'd be incredibly out of character for the developers to name something so obvious like Paper Mario with such an ambiguous name like "Pra_Mai".
Don't get people started on that. Claiming that Mewtwo and Lucario have similar movesets on Smashboards is like drawing a big ol' target on your head for other people to sweep in and dash you to the ground. I could list all the reasons why they're not even remotely similar, but I feel it'd be best left to one of the professionals here.
I don't know, Marth's code name was "mars" in Melee.
No, just no. Not to mention Mewtwo as a starter is just stupid. Almost as dumb as Luigi as a starter.
...What? are you trying to say it's ok for Pokemon to have 5 reps if some are unlockables and some are starters? cause that's kind of assumed to be what will happen
You missed like 2 or 3 pages ago, somewhat old news, being discussed right now.
I didn't mean very first; that's pretty bad wording. If it was very first, they'd probably be in the trailer.
it's not. people just like trying to find patterns that dont exist
Pretty much it all boils down to this. I can understand some speculation over patterns and the likes, but I feel like some of this stuff is even more ridiculous than last time with Brawl.
Overrepping is a very strange subject. There are so many factors that come in to play. For example, Star Fox has many characters that are important and reoccurring, but many (including myself) think that 4 (or in some cases even 3) reps is a bit much for such a small franchise despite it having characters still left out that are arguably just as important as Wolf or Falco. But then at the same time franchise size shouldn't correlate with how many characters that franchise gets in such a black and white manner. For example, Metroid is a large and popular franchise, but it only has two characters (and they're the same person). Why? Well, because Metroid doesn't have that many characters that are important and reoccurring. The only two consistent ones are Samus and Ridley (minus two or three games). The point being that just because Metroid is bigger than Star Fox doesn't mean it should have more playable characters. Despite being smaller, Star Fox has more consistent characters. It just depends on the franchise in question. There's no formula or anything like that
Almlost every Pokemon has it, I wouldn't declare any Pokemon more relevant for having a Mega Form and for all we know Genesect may have one. We may not even get these forms.
Yeah, I get annoyed with the over-repping excuse, when characters get in on their own merit, not the series amount of sales/games. Anyways, Lucas proves this.
Well, they were going to have Lucario and Mewtwo in the same game, so its not impossible tfor them to be in it together.
The very reason AC can have 2 reps because it's very popular franchise with recognizable, recurring characters like Tom Nook and Mr. Resetti.
