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Im not saying they cant work, I just think they suck.
Sakurai's opinion > Your opinion... you better hope Sakurai shares the same views as yours... otherwise, prepare to beat up Michael Jackson, Adolf Hitler, and your mom in SSB4. :troll:
 

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I'd say no character aside from the almost-given ones (which only includes obvious veterans) is more than 50%.

Seriously, even if you're saying someone "Only has" 25% chance of making it, you're still saying 1/4 chance. Which I think is gross overstatement.
 

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Sakurai's opinion > Your opinion... you better hope Sakurai shares the same views as yours... otherwise, prepare to beat up Michael Jackson, Adolf Hitler, and your mom in SSB4. :troll:
Oh Im sure they are in they deserve it they are just weird, they invaded mario kart and now they will invade smash, next you will walk in on your wife in bed with a Reggie Fil's Aime Mii...
 
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I disagree, Meowth doesn't really have any promotion outside the Anime and if you can work him in you could just as easily work in Eevee without the evolution.

Eevee is promoted in Anime & Game and is considered one of the most popular. As far as I know I think she kind of surpasses the popularity of Meowth & JigglyPuff. Not saying JigglyPuff would be removed or not.
Eevee is not promoted much in the anime. The only reason Eevee seems as such is because just recently, we had a minor anime character with a whole set of Eeveelutions win the Unova League (without even battling Ash), and another set in the Pikachu short prior to the Mewtwo/Genesect movie. Both times however, focus was on the evolutions than Eevee itself (especially in the short; the new Sylveon took center spotlight there).

As for popularity, while Eevee is certainly popular (and I would agree that it is one of the most), there is no way to tell how more popular it is compared to Meowth.
 

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@Noah: With the exception of Evee, your roster is much better. I really like it actually and think its pretty spot on. While Evee is an interesting choice (as I stated earlier), I don't find it incredibly likely.

@-Rhythm-: I kind of sprung up recently. Not sure why though.
I just think she's more deserving and relevant. She could easily take up JigglyPuff's Sleep & Punch moves as well as add some of her own. Maybe even use evolution stones as a final smash to change the element of her attack outcomes. She's not like my new thing, it's more of my Newcomer predictions.

Eevee is not promoted much in the anime. The only reason Eevee seems as such is because just recently, we had a minor anime character with a whole set of Eeveelutions win the Unova League (without even battling Ash), and another set in the Pikachu short prior to the Mewtwo/Genesect movie. Both times however, focus was on the evolutions than Eevee itself (especially in the short; the new Sylveon took center spotlight there).

As for popularity, while Eevee is certainly popular (and I would agree that it is one of the most), there is no way to tell how more popular it is compared to Meowth.
I think if Meowth was in SSB, nobody would care unless it's the same one from Team Rocket. I don't think Sakurai is going to pull characters from the actual Anime.

If Meowth is popular outside the Anime, I've clearly been living under a rock.
 
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I think if Meowth was in SSB, nobody would care unless it's the same one from Team Rocket. I don't think Sakurai is going to pull characters from the actual Anime.

If Meowth is popular outside the Anime, I've clearly been living under a rock.

If Meowth was in SSB, he would be the talking Meowth. There is no getting around that.
Both Mewtwo and Lucario take after their movie counterparts (though it's only clear in Mewtwo's case when the language is set to Japanese).
 

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More popular than Eevee, as far as the anime fanbase is concerned.
We need to take into consideration more thing besides just the Anime. I didn't add Genesect just because he appeared in a movie.

I'm asking if Meowth is more popular over all.

Oh Im sure they are in they deserve it they are just weird, they invaded mario kart and now they will invade smash, next you will walk in on your wife in bed with a Reggie Fil's Aime Mii...
People love Miis. Also I thought Villager was incredibly lame before the memes. Mii has too much move set potential to be left out and it's iconic to Nintendo. It just makes sense.
 

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Genesect is rather unspectacular game wise.

He's not all that special when you don't count the movie.
 

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Except you pretty much did...
I gotta jump in and defend the robo-bug:
Pros
+Evil,under the command of Team Plasma
+Techno Blast allows for varied attacks
+If 5th gen gets a rep, I think he's the most probable (Zoroark failed to replace Lucario)
+I hate to have to say this, but yes, Movie does help
+He's being promoted heavily in Japan

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-Smash tendency to skip Gens
-Flavor of the month (though I REALLY like this flavor)
-Lucario remains popular and Mewtwo is back on the scene
 

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Yeah.

For the movie...

Games...not so much...

Lucario and Mewtwo are being used more game-wise.
Sebz basically explained why he's popular to Pokemon fans. And Genesect seems to be the best newcomer. regardless of which Mewtwo is the Mewtwo in the movie.
 

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So...guys.

We just got a Pilotwings stage.

Pilotwings character?
 

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Yeah it does, http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Blue_(game) just like red uses 3 of his pokemon.
That didn't explain anything. He doesn't posses any deserving or popular Pokemon. And if your suggesting Eevee, she should be her own character. And you need to have one form or all.

Yeah, it could. It could be Pidgeot, Alakazam, and Rhydon.

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But, none of those pokemon are popular or deserving enough to be playable and they are completely random. You could pick a better trainer than that.

So...guys.

We just got a Pilotwings stage.

Pilotwings character?
Wuhu Island is going to be stage no doubt about it.
 

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That didn't explain anything. He doesn't posses any deserving or popular Pokemon. And if your suggesting Eevee, she should be her own character. And you need to have one form or all.



But, none of those pokemon are popular or deserving enough to be playable and they are completely random. You could pick a better trainer than that.



Wuhu Island is going to be stage no doubt about it.
Blue is iconic therefore his pokemon just get a free pass just like reds did, charizard is really the only extremely popular one out of the three.
 

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Blue is iconic therefore his pokemon just get a free pass just like reds did,
lol. Yeah, it doesn't work like that. plus Squirtle & Bulbasaur were somewhat popular and Charizard was the most popular. And you suggested no characters popular enough.Sakurai didn't add Pokemon Trainer for the Trainer itself.
 

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OMG....

Punch Out stage and now Pilotwings stage?

About time some justice was made in SSB!
Off topic, but here's a basic idea for a Startropics stage:

You fight in the sea by C Island and Coralcola. There's swimmible ocean water all around and the Sub C as a platform. The family of dolphins from Chapter 2 swim by in the background every so often, and the little dolphin will occasionally rescue a character who is drowning in the water.

I don't know how long it will be before that ring stage is confirmed to be from Punch-Out!!! or a Smash original stage, but I'm hoping it's from Punch-Out!!!

Ivysaur has very little popularity as a pokemon...
It's the coolest looking out of the three in the Bulba line in my opinion, although Bulbasaur comes close sometimes.

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I gotta jump in and defend the robo-bug:
Pros
+Evil,under the command of Team Plasma
Evil? While yes, Genesect was modified by Team Plasma, they never really used it for anything. The only antagonistic role a Genesect has ever had was in the movie.
+Techno Blast allows for varied attacks
Only thing I see other than the movie that warrants any real reason.
+If 5th gen gets a rep, I think he's the most probable (Zoroark failed to replace Lucario)
Because of the movie.
+I hate to have to say this, but yes, Movie does help
+He's being promoted heavily in Japan
He's being promoted heavily in Japan because of the movie.
Cons
-Smash tendency to skip Gens
They didn't really skip Gen 3 though. We had tons of Gen 3 Pokeball Pokemon and Rayquaza as a boss. It's just very likely that the same could happen to Gen 5.
-Flavor of the month (though I REALLY like this flavor)
Which is because of the movie, right?
-Lucario remains popular and Mewtwo is back on the scene
Which puts the nail in the coffin.
I'm just saying that there is no real reason for Sakurai to add in Genesect for anything other than the movie, which Mewtwo is already in. (And maybe if he did decide that Generation 5 needs more love, but I think Kyurem being the boss for Pokemon this time around would easily suffice that. Or at least Sakurai thought that last time).
You can try to say that the movie isn't the only reason, but it honestly really is...
So...guys.

We just got a Pilotwings stage.

Pilotwings character?
I'm suggesting Miis are suddenly more probable, they were featured in the last Pilotwings game. But a Pilotwings specific character? Doubt it, I think it could probably be the Wii U equivalent of the 3DS's Nintendogs stage.

Still no Wuhu Island though, which is surprising me.
 
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