3Bismyname
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let's also add Batman. he is the most popular comic book character of all timeThey would add him because he is the most popular anime hero of all time.
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Roster Prediction Discussion Thread
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BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
But Namco doesn't own the rights of Batman.
3Bismyname
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And Namco doesn't own rights to DBZ. there's a difference between developing rights and actual ownership. they don't own DBZ.But Namco doesn't own the rights of Batman.
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
Well all you have to do is ask. 
3Bismyname
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actually now that im looking at it they dont even have Developing rights. just publishing. Spike Developed the Tenkaichi and Raging Blast games and Game Republic handled a bunch of the other misc ones. regardless it doesn't matter. Goku didnt originate from a video game so he's ineligable
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BluePikmin. Stop trolling. It's getting old.
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They would add him because he is the most popular anime hero of all time.
No they won't. They don't have the rights.
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I'm beginning to think that BluePikmin11 is really 11 years old.
His Goku fanboyism seems to stem from playing too much Super Smash Flash 2. Goku is sort of over-powered in that game.
I've also seen him in the SSF2 forums, since I used to lurk there. His username there is "BluePikmin11R". (I hope I'm correct on this part.)
His Goku fanboyism seems to stem from playing too much Super Smash Flash 2. Goku is sort of over-powered in that game.
I've also seen him in the SSF2 forums, since I used to lurk there. His username there is "BluePikmin11R". (I hope I'm correct on this part.)
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
Not really, an 11 year old wouldn't care about rights or go way indepth about a character's chances in SSB4. Also, you never seen my pixel art I make there.
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I present you: the sollution!
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I think Little Mac has a good chance getting in Smash Bros. this time around. Out of all the Assist Trophies in Brawl, He seems the most realistic to expect since he has a decent amount of fans. Though I'd also want Issac to be a playable character too, I'm just not too sure about his chances though.
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3Bismyname
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i cringe everytime i have to hear Goku's Japanese voice.
8-peacock-8
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So i made MINOR changes to my roster.....still prefer the original.
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Correction; I can confirm that Namco Bandai DID develop at least the Tenkaichi games. I'm looking at the back of my copy of Tenkaichi 3 and it states "Developed by NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc."
So why Spike is listed as the developer, I have no clue.
Same with the Budokai games. My copy of the first Budokai states "Developed by Bandai".
I'd have to go to a local game store to see which other DBZ games are listed as Namco Bandai (or Bandai, depending on the year) being the developer.
Research also states that the only game Bandai played no involvement in was the very first Dragon Ball game for a cassette system.
While I'm not advocating for Goku to be in Smash, I'm pretty sure Namco Bandai has more control over the franchise in terms of video games than people think.
The only actual hurdle would be Sakurai and it's as simple as whether he wants to stand by his non-gaming origin policy from Brawl or not.
BluePikmin11
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^This
It's a decision whether he will allow a famous super saiyan to be in Smash.
Also Atari had the rights of the DBZ franchise before Namco Bandai had it in 2009.
It's a decision whether he will allow a famous super saiyan to be in Smash.
Also Atari had the rights of the DBZ franchise before Namco Bandai had it in 2009.
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Atari only had the rights to release the games under their company. As I pointed out, Tenkaichi 3 and Budokai 1 list Namco Bandai Games and Bandai as the developing companies.
So if I'm correct, and Namco Bandai Games/Bandai (pre-merge) did infact develop the other games, then that pretty much means NB has full control over the video games in the franchise now.
On a semi-related note, can someone supply me a source of where Sakurai gave specific rulings for 3rd Parties? The only one I found (the translation by SamuraiPanda) only states that they must have appeared on a Nintendo system and merely mentioned that manga characters will not appear in Brawl.
EDIT: I'm starting to think the "must have originated in a video game" thing was merely a misinterpretation of what was said.
EDIT2: Using the WayBack Machine and a translator, Sakurai never mentioned the "must have originated in a video game" rule on the old Dojo. Like what SamuraiPanda translated, all Sakurai said was "There will be no manga characters". And something like that can theoretically change for this upcoming game since it wasn't said as a requirement in general, just that they would not happen for Brawl.
So if I'm correct, and Namco Bandai Games/Bandai (pre-merge) did infact develop the other games, then that pretty much means NB has full control over the video games in the franchise now.
On a semi-related note, can someone supply me a source of where Sakurai gave specific rulings for 3rd Parties? The only one I found (the translation by SamuraiPanda) only states that they must have appeared on a Nintendo system and merely mentioned that manga characters will not appear in Brawl.
EDIT: I'm starting to think the "must have originated in a video game" thing was merely a misinterpretation of what was said.
EDIT2: Using the WayBack Machine and a translator, Sakurai never mentioned the "must have originated in a video game" rule on the old Dojo. Like what SamuraiPanda translated, all Sakurai said was "There will be no manga characters". And something like that can theoretically change for this upcoming game since it wasn't said as a requirement in general, just that they would not happen for Brawl.
If we are talking dragon ball games. Dimps developed the budokai games (known simply as Dragon Ball Z 1, 2, and 3 in Japan), as well as Advanced Adventure, Burst Limit, and Infinate world. Spike developed the Budokai tenkaichi series (Known in Japan as Sparking) as well as the PE360 games after Burst Limit. Game Rebublic developed the DS titles except attack of the saiyans which was developed by Monolith Soft.
Getting back on topic, goku's not getting in.
Getting back on topic, goku's not getting in.
Noler_Mass
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So why did you put him on your prediction roster.
Also nitpicking your roster, I think the possibility stands for maybe a couple version exclusives, but five each is really pushing it unless they decide to go a whole different direction with the 3ds version.
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*Enters thread*
>BluePikmin11 and his usual stuff.
>Talking about Goku from DBZ.
>Blah blah blah. No manga characters and whatever.
>Bluh blah blah. Sakurai said this and Namco that.
>Dat déjà vu.
Bye bye.
*Leaves thread*
>BluePikmin11 and his usual stuff.
>Talking about Goku from DBZ.
>Blah blah blah. No manga characters and whatever.
>Bluh blah blah. Sakurai said this and Namco that.
>Dat déjà vu.
Bye bye.
*Leaves thread*
Goku was never on my roster?
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
You guys always think criteria is commonsense
8-peacock-8
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So to take this off of the animu topic.....any opinions on this?So i made MINOR changes to my roster.....still prefer the original.
Noler_Mass
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Get a profile picture bobadz I can't tell the difference between you and blue pikmin...
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The only way I see version exclusives of characters, is if those exclusive characters can be transferred between both copies.
So basically, by the end, they don't turn out to be exclusives at all.
So basically, by the end, they don't turn out to be exclusives at all.
BluePikmin11
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I would get rid of:
1. Bowser Jr.
2. That weird duo of Diddy and Dixie that could result in that horrible mess of Billy and Many in PTE, just make them seperate characters.
3. Toon Zelda
And I think everyone else is fine.
Think of Super Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U Version as Smash Red Version and Smash Blue Version.
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Toon Zelda seems weird to me, but then again she was planned for Brawl(WTH Sakurai). I don't really like remaking Diddy into a duo character, and I doubt such a drastic change to an existing character will happen. Lucina, while popular among FE fans, doesn't have much Smash support and is almost certainly a clone. I can only see her appearing to fluff up the roster ala Melee's clones, but I think it's too late in the series for that either. The rest seems like it has a decent chance even if I don't necessarily want it.
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So to unlock characters, I have to capture them in pokeballs? Then I can trade to the other version?Think of Super Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U Version as Smash Red Version and Smash Blue Version.
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Then you fight gym badges and earn elite four members in order to enter the Pokemon league.
Noler_Mass
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No don't think of it that way. Pokemon red and blue and every single pokemon duo game in existence are games that are released on the same console. Smash is so much different because it is released on two completely different consoles. This changes things graphically and physically. So no don't think of it as smash red and blue.Think of Super Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U Version as Smash Red Version and Smash Blue Version.
That being said, I still think version exclusives are a possibility even if they cannot be transferred. Like I said it will likely be only one or two and they will likely appeal to the specific console. A better way to think of it is like soul calibur 3. There is one different character in each version and at least in links case it represents the console. Honestly I wouldn't mind if there was one or two version exclusives for both games and they were later released as dlc for the other system. I know people would flip the freak out but it will likely be only 5-10 dollars which isn't much money at all and I would like to see at least a little variety within the two games.
I also think a possibility that they could do is similar to what playstation allstars did in that if you buy the console version, you get the handheld version free. Even though I didn't have a vita I freaking loved the fact that playstation did this, and I think smash should follow suit.
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Thanks
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
That would result the 3DS Version to be $60.
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Fixed
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
That wouldn't make any sense, marketing wise.
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it was joke. Since they mentioned giving the 3DS version for free with the Wii U version.
Anyway, the 3DS version would still be sold normally even if they do what All Stars did and give the 3DS version for free with the Wii U version.
BluePikmin11
Akko is my dear daughter!
Kid 1: "Why am I buying the Wii U Version?"
Dad: "HD Graphics"
Kid 2: "Why am I buying the 3DS Version?"
Dad 2: "Cheaper than the Wii U Version?"
Which family had the right decision?
Dad: "HD Graphics"
Kid 2: "Why am I buying the 3DS Version?"
Dad 2: "Cheaper than the Wii U Version?"
Which family had the right decision?
8-peacock-8
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Both. It's the same game in the end.
Autumn ♫
I'm terrible with these Custom Titles.
If only Goku started off as a video game character.
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Autumn ♫
I'm terrible with these Custom Titles.
Let me rephrase that. If only Kakarot started off as a video game character
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