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Or, instead of just rebooting the series and basically saying "We've done goofed the last several games", they could do what every other series has done and just... Make a good new game? Shocking proposition, I'm sure.

Assault was a step in the right direction, for example. They could easily keep the original on-rails shooter formula and simply improve upon the lacking but otherwise potent on-ground segments and multiplayer. Wii U is ripe for that kind of play too, especially if the pacing is smoothed out so as to not feel like the ground segments are forced.
Poblem is, I don't care about assault either. I don't even care for 64 even. I just care about the characters. Which is why I would rather have a total reboot to create a new canon that isn't a follow-up of any pass game and done in a way so I will actually care about the actual game instead of jsut the charatcers.
 

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na if we get a reboot one of 3 things should happen to krystal
1. Dies a horrible death
2. retcon it so she no longer exist
3. make her a villain (instead of fox going to that dino planet make it wolf or something like that)
MagnesD3 is going to have a field-day with this. :rolleyes:
 

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na if we get a reboot one of 3 things should happen to krystal
1. Dies a horrible death
2. retcon it so she no longer exist
3. make her a villain (instead of fox going to that dino planet make it wolf or something like that)
First 2 heck no. Krystal is my 2nd fave character. :L

However Wolf is my fave character so I actually wouldn't mind if she got put on the evil side as a love intrest for Wolf. lol
 

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First 2 heck no. Krystal is my 2nd fave character. :L

However Wolf is my fave character so I actually wouldn't mind if she got put on the evil side as a love intrest for Wolf. lol
can some one explain what krystals character when I played Assault she had none
Slippy is the best Starfox character this is a fact
 

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since when? Isn't that exactly what everyone else does? I have reasons for ignoring people, just because I ignore someone doesn't mean it's because I disagree with someone. I'm not like others who spam the report button every time someone has a different opinion.
Fair enough, but I think ignoring people is still a wrong thing to do.

But that's just me I guess.

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It does not take up nearly as much development time as you think it does.
It takes time for them to create the model and for them to think of a place to where it would fit. Why not just stop after creating the model and make it an Alternate Costume?

Just like Bowser is fairly well known for becoming Dry Bowser.
Wario has appeared in both costumes numerous times in his own games, and is popular for many reasons in both outfits.

Bowser has only become Dry Bowser once.
Since then Dry Bowser has been considered to be a separate entity from Bowser.
I'm not sure why you consider it "fairly well known", so you could show me some proof of this?

I don't quite understand, that's like asking why would I want to go through the time to get visible damage or to make Wario do that flashy thing he does when he fights for too long.
Why would I want to go through the trouble of having Final Smashes turned on to become Dry Bowser if they could just make him an alternate costume?
The reason why visible damage was probably removed was because it would have been too small to notice and it probably caused people to pause the game often to look at the battle damage, killing the momentum of the game (This is something I am just assuming).
Wario flashes to let the player be aware that the Wario Waft is fully charged, it actually effects the gameplay in some way.

The point is representing a popular form of Bowser that a lot of people like. Through some way or another.
I've never heard anyone say that Dry Bowser is their favorite Mario character. I'm also not sure how popular you think he is, so if you could provide some evidence of that I would appreciate that.

Who said Dry Bowser had to interfere with the battle going on in the foregorund?
Wait what. If you want Bowser to become Dry Bowser, he is in the foreground battling other players.

Who said he couldn't be an alternate costume. In my alternate forms section I have Girl Villager, Overalls Wario, and Dry Bowser. Dry Bowser can be an alternate costume too.
But you keep suggesting that Bowser should be able to transform into Dry Bowser somehow during the match, which is completely pointless if it does nothing at all.

That's sort of what I'm talking about, but not exclusive to stages, just after a period of fighting time or a costume.
Which again, is basically pointless. It's essentially the same thing as the visible battle damage concept that was scrapped in Brawl.

Why would it be a waste of a slot, it's less of a waste because it's just the awakened form and no normal Mewtwo. You also said he would know every move Mewtwo knows, that's WHY he shouldn't be a swapping character, he's not unique enough for both forms to be present in the game.
I thought you were suggesting to both forms be separate playable characters. So I'm going to assume you didn't mean that.

Also how is a character being able to shift it's stats around not unique? No other character has the ability to that on the fly.

Why on earth would Sakurai implement a character the ability to transform into the same thing at will, but with different physics? How would he be an entirely different character if he has the same moves and is the same character. Also I doubt Mewtwo transforms in the anime to change his weight and speed, that makes the form of his transformation unnecessary. It makes more sense to just have Newtwo by himself if he has the same moves and just forget about the other form completely. Once you are Newtwo you have no reason to switch back to Mewtwo. You even admitted he's not unique enough for them to switch between each other because he has the same moves.
Because he's previously shown that he's open to crazy and wacky ideas in both gameplay and character selection. You can doubt all you want but you can't tell me you don't think that her awakened form is not both faster and lighter than her original form. It would be something new to add to the table to make Mewtwo more unique. I believe the whole point of forms in Pokemon are to imagine that Pokemon in a different way through stats, which in turn the Pokemon into something completely different. It changes the way you train that Pokemon and moves you would normally teach it, technically making it an entirely different Pokemon.

What does Mewtwo have that Newtwo doesn't?
A loved and well known design that doesn't look like a Digimon.
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It's obvious he transforms into Newtwo to upgrade his powers, not to be a different fighting style, Zelda has magic and she can transform into a Ninja like fighter, Samus has her robot suit and she can transform into a fighter with human reflexes and a grapple beam.
Who said there needs to be a different fighting style? At least willingly transform to fit the playstyle of your choice when necessary. Not to mention that idea is that the awakened form is a clone of Mewtwo with different stats and properties in her moveset. It's basically mixing two clone characters into one character without actually wasting a character slot.
Mewtwo transforms into a more powerful Mewtwo with the same fighting style, THAT is a waste of development time, it would take more time than Dry Bowser and would make no sense or point because once you become Newtwo there is no reason to go back to Mewtwo. This is why Newtwo should be his own character and Mewtwo shouldn't. Newtwo would have everything Mewtwo has plus more. You suggested a change in physics would be a reason to have it, that's as pointless as Bowser transforming into Dry Bowser, but just with different physics.
You're under the impression that Mewtwo's Awakened form would be immensely overpowered in comparison to Mewtwo's regular form. Of course that wouldn't be the case, you need to consider that game will be balanced and in turn so would pros and cons having two (potentially three) different Mewtwos.

To review it's safe to assume

  1. They're the same fighting style and Pokemon type.
  2. There's nothing Mewtwo can do that Newtwo couldn't.
  3. Newtwo is an upgraded form of Mewtwo, meaning once you become him there is no reason to go back to Mewtwo.
1 & 2 - Well obviously, it's the same Pokemon (unless Awakened form is suddenly a fairy type too)
3 - Sure, maybe in Pokemon X and Y, but that probably wouldn't be the case in a Smash Brothers type setting if the game is balanced to make you want to switch forms for certain circumstances.
So it's just as pointless as having Mario transform into Dr. Mario or Dry Bowser transforming into Dry Bowser with different physics. This is why my roster has Newtwo by himself. It makes no sense to press Down B to become someone with the same moves or powers.
Except it makes no sense for to suddenly turn into Dr. Mario at will and the same goes for Dry Bowser too (Since Bowser would never willingly jump into a pit of lava and he's only become Dry Bowser once).

You still are just thinking that Mewtwo would have no difference other than appearance which is completely missing the point.
Attack properties, weight, speed, damage, and mobility would be different for both forms and they would have to be balanced to successfully do things the other can't. Assuming that a third form does exist, we basically have the Balanced Mewtwo (Original Form), Glass Cannon Mewtwo (Awakened Form), and Tank / Wall Mewtwo (Unannounced Form) and that is only assuming they fit this criteria in the statistical format in X and Y.
 

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I think it could actually be pretty awesome to play a Star Wolf game where you go around as a freelance agent and you can choose to deal with things how you feel like. You could be a pure villainous bastich or you could go the way of the honorable rogue.

You'd make contacts across the galaxy and really explore the SF universe.

... also, you could choose to either help or stop a group who's trying to secretly revive Andross. :D
 

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can some one explain what krystals character when I played Assault she had none
Slippy is the best Starfox character this is a fact
When it comes to Anthros it usually has more to do with design then characters. Wolves are my fave animal and so Wolf naturally is going to be my fave character, and he has a awesome design to boot. Foxes are my 2nd fave animal so naturally fox type Anthros will be among my fave characters but I like Krystal's desgin the best so she is 2nd fave while Fox is 3rd fave. Like I said I don't really like the actualy SF games and only like the characters. This is mostly due to them being Anthros. lol
 

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I think it could actually be pretty awesome to play a Star Wolf game where you go around as a freelance agent and you can choose to deal with things how you feel like. You could be a pure villainous bastich or you could go the way of the honorable rogue.

You'd make contacts across the galaxy and really explore the SF universe.

... also, you could choose to either help or stop a group who's trying to secretly revive Andross. :D
Wolf for the next GTA game. :awesome:
 

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I think it could actually be pretty awesome to play a Star Wolf game where you go around as a freelance agent and you can choose to deal with things how you feel like. You could be a pure villainous bastich or you could go the way of the honorable rogue.
I've seen an idea like this before.

Maybe this one could end up being better though.
 

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When it comes to Anthros it usually has more to do with design then characters. Wolves are my fave animal and so Wolf naturally is going to be my fave character, and he has a awesome design to boot. Foxes are my 2nd fave animal so naturally fox type Anthros will be among my fave characters but I like Krystal's desgin the best so she is 2nd fave while Fox is 3rd fave. Like I said I don't really like the actualy SF games and only like the characters. This is mostly due to them being Anthros. lol
did not know anthros were all about looks seems kinda dumb to me but i'm not really a fan of anthros so what do I know
 

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When it comes to Anthros it usually has more to do with design then characters. Wolves are my fave animal and so Wolf naturally is going to be my fave character, and he has a awesome design to boot. Foxes are my 2nd fave animal so naturally fox type Anthros will be among my fave characters but I like Krystal's desgin the best so she is 2nd fave while Fox is 3rd fave. Like I said I don't really like the actualy SF games and only like the characters. This is mostly due to them being Anthros. lol
This kind of talk is exactly what the Sonic fanbase expects. It's why we get games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic '06...

I do not want a game that forcibly includes characters or story elements that do not improve upon the gameplay itself. That is the complete antithesis of good game design. If you don't care about the games themselves, you're probably better off talking about it in some sort of fan-fiction thread. I play the Star Fox games for having satisfying gameplay and quirky conversations, not because ___ has a good design and personality.
 

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I've seen an idea like this before.
Maybe this one could end up being better though.

... hrm.
I...
Yeah, but maybe it'd be better than that. Eek. I mean, at least it couldn't be worse.

Wolf for the next GTA game. :awesome:

I guess I am imagining it as kind of a GTAish thing except with more fun gameplay and a fictional universe to explore.
Oh, and cooler guns. :awesome:
 

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did not know anthros were all about looks seems kinda dumb to me but i'm not really a fan of anthros so what do I know
I meant for me. Not in general. And it mostly only has to do with the SF games because I don't really care about the actual games.

This kind of talk is exactly what the Sonic fanbase expects. It's why we get games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic '06...

I do not want a game that forcibly includes characters or story elements that do not improve upon the gameplay itself. That is the complete antithesis of good game design. If you don't care about the games themselves, you're probably better off talking about it in some sort of fan-fiction thread. I play the Star Fox games for having satisfying gameplay and quirky conversations, not because ___ has a good design and personality.
I meant the SF games as they are now. Imo I don't think the SF games are good games themselves and could use allot of improvement. And where the heck did you get all that from anyway? I don't care for the SF games themselves because I don't like the gameplay. All I was saying that when it comes to Anthro type characters and picking a fave character among a cast of Anthros it usually tends to go to ones designed after my fave kind of animals and have the best design to me. Doesn't mean I think it should be the focus of the game. lol
 

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I meant the SF games as they are now. Imo I don't think the SF games are good games themselves and could use allot of improvement. And where the heck did you get all that from anyway? I don't care for the SF games themselves because I don't like the gameplay. All I was saying that when it comes to Anthro type characters and picking a fave character among a cast of Anthros it usually tends to go to ones designed after my fave kind of animals and have the best design to me. Doesn't mean I think it should be the focus of the game. lol
Well all I really meant is that you and I have differing ideas of how the series itself could be improved, nothing more. I just have a personal gripe with people that see video games as just another form of television or books, which is why I felt the need to respond. Video games tell stories, but the gameplay and focus itself should determine the story, not the other way around.

I have no intention to fight with you about it. Again, difference in perspective.
 
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Krystal should join Star Wolf and be with Panther. :troll:

What's that? Fox needs a love interest or he will be miserable?
Then bring Fara Phoenix into canon. :awesome:
 

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Well all I really meant is that you and I have differing ideas of how the series itself could be improved, nothing more. I just have a personal gripe with people that see video games as just another form of television or books, which is why I felt the need to respond. Video games tell stories, but the gameplay and focus itself should determine the story, not the other way around.

I have no intention to fight with you about it. Again, difference in perspective.
Wtf are you getting at? I don't even know where you get this absurd prespective of mine when all I said was on how I decide my fave characters when it comes to Anthro characters. -_- You are litterally accusing me of something when I never said anything close to what you are accusing me of. -_-
 

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Well all I really meant is that you and I have differing ideas of how the series itself could be improved, nothing more. I just have a personal gripe with people that see video games as just another form of television or books, which is why I felt the need to respond. Video games tell stories, but the gameplay and focus itself should determine the story, not the other way around.

I have no intention to fight with you about it. Again, difference in perspective.
this is why i'm annoyed people say The Last of Us is good the game play isn't even good
Gameplay > all

@mimgrim so why do all anthro fans all like foxs and wolves most why not pick a cooler animal like a Fossa or a Crab
 

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I like Wolf before Falco. I don't really see how he's a clone either...
I think all three make it, and Falco and Wolf get revamps. I really liked the way Wolf plays in brawl.
Krystal I don't thing has a chance at all, especially over Wolf.
 

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@mimgrim so why do all anthro fans all like foxs and wolves most why not pick a cooler animal like a Fossa or a Crab
Why are you calling opinions facts? ._.

All I said was that Wolves are MY fave animal and foxes are MY 2nd fave animal. So naturally that will affect what kind of characters I like the best when it comes to Anthros. Where did I even say all Anthro fans like thos animals? I just stated what I like better. Sheesh. -_-
 

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It takes time for them to create the model and for them to think of a place to where it would fit. Why not just stop after creating the model and make it an Alternate Costume?
Again that doesn't take a lot of development time.

Bowser has only become Dry Bowser once.
Since then Dry Bowser has been considered to be a separate entity from Bowser.
I'm not sure why you consider it "fairly well known", so you could show me some proof of this?
Bowser has not become Dry Bowser once, he becomes Dry Bowser in Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, and quite possibly Super Mario 3D World.

Also there's nothing SAYING that Dry Bowser is a separate entity in Mario Kart Wii or Mario Tennis Open. I believe Mario & Sonic at The Winter Olympic Games is the only one where he is officially a separate entity.

Why would I want to go through the trouble of having Final Smashes turned on to become Dry Bowser if they could just make him an alternate costume?
I thought we clarified this isn't Final Smash related.

Also how is a character being able to shift it's stats around not unique? No other character has the ability to that on the fly.
Nobody wants to switch between 2 characters just to change their weight and speed, that is a waste of development time that would actually take up more development time.


Because he's previously shown that he's open to crazy and wacky ideas in both gameplay and character selection.
That's not wacky or crazy, it's pointless and stupid. All you did was change his weight and speed. Who cares?

awakened form is not both faster and lighter than her original form.

So then wouldn't make more sense just to have the lighter and faster form, why the heck would you want to switch back to the heavier and slower form???

I believe the whole point of forms in Pokemon are to imagine that Pokemon in a different way through stats, which in turn the Pokemon into something completely different.
That's not completely different. It's not even different enough to notice. It's just transforming into a slightly better Mewtwo with the same moves, meaning you'd always be the slightly better version so why not just start out as it?

You're under the impression that Mewtwo's Awakened form would be immensely overpowered in comparison to Mewtwo's regular form.
I never said that, I said there's no point in transforming into an upgraded version of a character with better stats and the same exact moves. Just have Newtwo, it saves development time. I didn't even notice Dr. Mario's differences in physics until somebody told me. And even then Dr. Mario was pointless to have. It makes no sense for a character to get a smashball or press the down button transform into a clone of themselves.

All the differences you've claimed Newtwo has are pointless, unnoticeable, or just better than Mewtwo. It's a waste of time so just have Newtwo. This is more pointless than Dry Bowser because it takes more time to treat both forms as their own character.

Basically what I'm saying is none of your suggestions make Newtwo unique from Mewtwo. If it's just a change in stats there is literally no point. You do realize I could just use physics as a dumb excuse to have Dry Bowser be a transformable, right?
 

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Why are you calling opinions facts? ._.

All I said was that Wolves are MY fave animal and foxes are MY 2nd fave animal. So naturally that will affect what kind of characters I like the best when it comes to Anthros. Where did I even say all Anthro fans like thos animals? I just stated what I like better. Sheesh. -_-
Opinions are facts (its mostly for fun man)

and I mean every time I see an anthro anything its always Foxes or Wolves and some times cats and thats it
 

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Opinions are facts (its mostly for fun man)

and I mean every time I see an anthro anything its always Foxes or Wolves and some times cats and thats it
It's just what people end up liking for themseves? And trust me when I say that anthros go beyond just those 3, you jsut haven't looked hard enough. :p
 

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New Roster Update! Version 4.0! (DISCLAIMER: I might swap Kalos Trainer for Lucario so don't freak out)
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Noticeable differences:

Lyndis - I have Lyndis as a Fire Emblem Rep because of her immense popularity and incredible move set potential. Although 4 Fire Emblem reps may be unlikely, it's still possible.

Matthew - Most people have Issac, as he appears in all the titles. I have Matthew because it seems he has replaced Issac's role and is mostly a reboot of him. This will be a more relevant way of representing Golden Sun. But both are very likely.

Starfy - Starfy is one of the most likely, he's had 3 GBA installments, a 4th on DS, and a fifth western release on DS. He has become a pretty big Nintendo All-Star and has a lot of Move Set Potential. I suggest others add him.

Sheriff - He was the first Nintendo game as well as an international arcade title, he can represent the arcade and his status of recognition is similar to that of Ice Climbers.

Kalos Trainer - I've decided to have 5 Pokemon reps. Pokemon should have at least 1 All-New Pokemon that hasn't been playable before, and though Mewtwo has his new form, he's not entirely new. I added a second unlock able Trainer from the newest title. I may swap her for Lucario, but it's important one of are Pokemon reps are entirely new. Pokemon is a cookie to predict.

Newtwo - since Newtwo should be able to do every thing Mewtwo can, there's really no point in implementing the transformation, once you become the upgraded form there is no reason to switch back to the original form. It's easier to just have him as his own character so that's what I did.

Paper Mario - Bowser Jr is very likely to be the 5th Mario rep, but I see Paper Mario to be more preferred and unique. It just seems like the more logical choice.

Bomberman - Konami has recently acquired one of the most popular/iconic third-party characters from the deceased Hudson Soft. Bomberman has had as much affiliation with Nintendo as any of the third-parties if not more and has had games on practically every game machine since NES. It hasn't been confirmed that third-party characters will returna and Sakurai and Konami may want to make use of this character.

Sonic & Snake - Most games that have guest characters usually only have them once. If any game does that it should be Smash Bros. I'm sure Sakurai may want to prioritize Nintendo Characters in a Nintendo fighting game, and not have too many Third-Parties. We could have Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man, and thought it's hard to imagine SSB without Sonic, there is the possibility either 3 will be too many and Sakurai may want a second third-party to have a chance.

If you have opinions or constructive Criticism, please give civil suggestions below.
 

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Again that doesn't take a lot of development time. [citation needed]

Bowser has not become Dry Bowser once, he becomes Dry Bowser in Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, and quite possibly Super Mario 3D World. Two times and maybe three is what you're saying. That's absolutely nothing when the Mario mainseries alone is more than 13 games big. I guess Luigi should become Mr. L through his final smash since he's already halfway there with the amount of times Bowser has turned Dry Bowser.

Also there's nothing SAYING that Dry Bowser is a separate entity in Mario Kart Wii or Mario Tennis Open. I believe Mario & Sonic at The Winter Olympic Games is the only one where he is officially a separate entity. Well the fact that they're separate characters in various games should show that.

I thought we clarified this isn't Final Smash related. What the hell is it then if you're saying it's not just an alternate outfit you can pick?

Nobody wants to switch between 2 characters just to change their weight and speed, that is a waste of development time that would actually take up more development time. Yet people want your Dry Bowser idea more instead?

That's not wacky or crazy, it's pointless and stupid. All you did was change his weight and speed. Who cares? A lot of people who want Mewtwo.

That's not completely different. It's not even different enough to notice. It's just transforming into a slightly better Mewtwo with the same moves, meaning you'd always be the slightly better version so why not just start out as it? Where the hell has it been established that the Awakened Forme is going to be better? It certainly hasn't in X&Y news, and Sakurai isn't going to make it outright better than the other forme when characters are made to be balanced with one another.

I never said that, I said there's no point in transforming into an upgraded version of a character with better stats and the same exact moves. Just have Newtwo, it saves development time. I didn't even notice Dr. Mario's differences in physics until somebody told me. And even then Dr. Mario was pointless to have. It makes no sense for a character to get a smashball or press the down button transform into a clone of themselves. For the last damn time, nowhere did we say he'd be upgraded. If this is really an issue for you, let's either have him as a temporary final smash or forme that can be switched around like Sheik with different moves as well. Is that better?

All the differences you've claimed Newtwo has are pointless, unnoticeable, or just better than Mewtwo. It's a waste of time so just have Newtwo. This is more pointless than Dry Bowser because it takes more time to treat both forms as their own character. Except more people would be satisfied with the end result. By the same virtue, they shouldn't program classic mode because that'd take more time than developing another character. Time versus satisfaction is the key. It's why Sakurai start out with fodder characters before making highly requested additions and returns.

Basically what I'm saying is none of your suggestions make Newtwo unique from Mewtwo. If it's just a change in stats there is literally no point. Change his regular moves then. There's plenty more flexibility in including both forms in some way than there is to making an aesthetic change like Dry Bowser.
If you don't care about winning this argument, don't even respond to anyone. If you do care about winning this argument, give us things that are credible. Any joker can simply claim "it doesn't take a lot of development time". People here who disagree with you aren't going to shut up any sooner if you don't take the time to make your own points more than just spewing out whatever comes to mind. If you weren't lying to me in those PMs, then seriously, stop giving off the idea that we should care what you think if you won't make the effort to support it. If you don't care, it's really as simple as not talking. Debate is to convince those around you. If you're not trying to do that, you're not debating, you're just being disrespectful.
 
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1. What is the current topic about now? :bee:

2. My current roster:



3. I have basic moveset thoughts for some characters:

Shulk easily would use the Monado and all of the abilities from Xenoblade. Some would be attack based, other could stun, daze, etc the opponent. There isn't much more to him than that, however, the Monado itself and the techniques it can do would make Shulk original and different compared to other sword users.

Isa Jo would be a different take on the sword user, being able to do long range attacks alongside close range because his weapon is a gun-sword. His Smash attacks would consist of melee (up close) attacks while the Special attacks would involve the gun based stuff. Basically think of how someone like Fox plays. On top of all that, Isa would come with a jet-pack that gives him more range around the stage. Something similar to a triple jump, that allows you to hover for a while. This could easily relate to Pit's flying ability.

Ghirahim I believe would have a double move-set. One with a sword and one without (you would switch out like Zelda/Sheik with a Down+B). This makes him pull out his swords or put it away. Maybe sword Ghirahim would be mostly an up close character, with a few ranged special attacks. While unarmed Ghirahim would be a mix, usually his hands and feet to attack directly while the magic dagger attacks (among other things) would be long range specials.

Robin & Chrom
Series: Fire Emblem

Main Costume: Normal Chrom & Male Robin
Alt Costume: Dread Fighter Chrom & Female Robin

This would be a duo character, a team of two characters. Chrom will bring his sword and bow to the battle, while Robin is mainly there for magic based attacks. Think of the likes of Ice Climbers, but with two characters that have different movesets. The Smash attacks will be mainly done by Chrom, using his sword. One of the sword charging attacks would be a double sword attack by both Robin and Chrom however (the only time Robin appears in the Smash attacks). The Special attack side of thing would be mainly dominated by Robin, being able to cast varying spells from his/her tome. One of these attacks will be Chrom's bow when, if charged, Robin would cast a spell on the arrow. This will give the team distance based attacks.


Bowser Jr - He will take a few moves from his dad (such as the dropkick, claw attack, and fire breath). However they are done a little bit differently in terms of speeds and visual approach, especially the fire breath. Bowser Jr does not constantly breath fire like his father, he shoots out little fire balls (think Bowser/King Koopa in the original SMB, except smaller). This attack can be charged and used to used out multiple fire balls. These attacks, outside of the fire ball attack, would be placed in his Smash attacks. On the Special side of things Bowser Jr would use technology and gadget based attacks that come from the Galaxy series among other recent games. This character is faster than Bowser, obviously, but won't pack as much damage in the end.

Matthew - Think Link but with a shield and replace his items with psyenergy attacks. Matthew's Smash attacks would strictly be attacks based off of his sword. The Special attacks would be different psyenergy spells he can cast. His attacks can do decent damage, especially if charged, but his movement is only fair. Since he is not trained as well as someone like Link is, he is not as "fierce" with his attacks and not as fast on the battlefield. Matthew was mostly in the middle, while relying a little bit on the strength.

Comparing Isa Jo and Matthew - Both of these characters easily compare and contrast the most, as they basically are the opposites of each other in my mind. Isa Jo can't do as much damage, and in order to do well you would have to combo a lot, but his movement is very fast. With the use of his jetpack he can move around the stage fairly quick. So what loses in terms of strength he makes up in speed. However, with Matthew, his relies more on his strength and less on his speed. Matthew doesn't have to use combos in order to deal decent damage but he also can't move around the stage as fast.
 

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I was wondering why they are the most popular and asking why you like them the most to get some insight on it :ohwell:
I dunno, I just like wolves and foxes. I think they look cool/elogent/cute/majestic/whatever take your pick. I like the way the operate? There are tons of reasons that I just can't explain good, I jsut like wolves and foxes allot. I mean really it's a number things. Wolves are usually loyal to their mate (most of the time when a wolf picks a mate they remain as mates untill one dies) and how thy protect others in the packs, I guess those could be 2 reasons why I like wolves? Foxes usually live in small family groups and are usually loyal to that group and they are all about opprotunity, so I guess those could be a couple of reasons for foxes? I dunno man, I just like wolves and foxes allot and can't really explain why good.
 
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Unfortunately, only people who're logged into IGN can see that pic, fyi. I just use imgur for my shiz since it's free, easy, and you don't need an account.
Ok, didn't know that.

Good thing I uploaded it to Facebook as well, and I updated it to that.

Thanks for letting me know.
 

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I actually like Noah's roster. Please let him know that somebody. Besides Bomberman, Lyn, and Sheriff. And cutting Lucario and the third parties. Also, give LoZ another rep and perhaps add Pacman.
 

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Oh and also Robrt you still never replied to me when I asked what you were trying to say. Because I have no idea how you came to that kind of a conclusion about me when all I was talking about was how I picke my fave characters when it comes to anthros. ._.
 

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Oh and also Robrt you still never replied to me when I asked what you were trying to say. Because I have no idea how you came to that kind of a conclusion about me when all I was talking about was how I picke my fave characters when it comes to anthros. ._.
I never wanted to start anything, I said that before.

You like the Star Fox characters. I like the Star Fox gameplay.

There really isn't anything else that needs to be said.
 

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Hmm, I think it's time for me to actually look up who the heck "Sheriff" is, since I keep seeing him everywhere. My immediate take is that he's way too similar to Game&Watch to actually be considered.

... ah. Interesting. So, he really does fulfill a similar role as G&W in Nintendo's history... I think I'd personally rate his likelihood very, very low.

Is this a prediction roster or an ideal roster?
 

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I actually like Noah's roster. Please let him know that somebody. Besides Bomberman, Lyn, and Sheriff. And cutting Lucario and the third parties. Also, give LoZ another rep and perhaps add Pacman.
"I like Noah's roster except for all the things I don't like about it."

Well said, I agree.
Is this a prediction roster or an ideal roster?
Supposedly prediction, though the idea with this one that you're only a good speculator if you guess the characters nobody else guesses, not if you predict the most characters that make it in.
 
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Hmm, I think it's time for me to actually look up who the heck "Sheriff" is, since I keep seeing him everywhere. My immediate take is that he's way too similar to Game&Watch to actually be considered.

... ah. Interesting. So, he really does fulfill a similar role as G&W in Nintendo's history... I think I'd personally rate his likelihood very, very low.

Is this a prediction roster or an ideal roster?
Do you think they would keep him 2D? I think they would pull a Pit and update him.
 

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"I like Noah's roster except for all the things I don't like about it."

Well said, I agree.

Supposedly prediction, though the idea with this one that you're only a good speculator if you guess the characters nobody else guesses, not if you predict the most characters that make it in.
I meant in a general way.
 
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