Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Reznor]

Oh, god. Do not start that. Yoshi isn't gonna get a rep because a new game came out (which by the way is barely anything more than a remake.)

You shouldn't add a character because their franchise was convenient enough to get a game released around the time that SSB is being made. You should add a character because they are important to the whole franchise and made a big impact.

Just wait til Tropical Freeze reveals the new Kong, EVERYBODY is going to put it on their roster.

I just think Kamek is a cool character and Yoshi games do well Yoshi could get another rep and Kamek is important to the Yoshi games

Edit: I said and too many times

 

[IsmaR]

I liked Gen V's starters.

Oh, god. Do not start that. Yoshi isn't gonna get a rep because a new game came out (which by the way is barely anything more than a remake.)

I can see why people tell you "Get out." often.

 

[AEMehr]

Oh, god. Do not start that. Yoshi isn't gonna get a rep because a new game came out (which by the way is barely anything more than a remake.)

I'm actually pretty sure it is a new game in the franchise and don't forget the new Wii U Yoshi game too, that's more activity than Yoshi has ever had in the previous decade. I wouldn't say a new Yoshi character is very likely, but I wouldn't count it out.

You shouldn't add a character because their franchise was convenient enough to get a game released around the time that SSB is being made. You should add a character because they are important to the whole franchise and made a big impact.

That and Smash generally prioritizes the generation before it's release (a big reason why characters from franchises released around SSB4's release next year have very little chance to be playable).

Just wait til Tropical Freeze reveals the new Kong, EVERYBODY is going to put it on their roster.

I'm calling it being King K. Rool.
That would be a fun turn of events. DK gets kicked out and K. Rool goes to take over the Kong-less DK Island without any success. He then returns back to Crocodile Island to discover that it has been taken over too. Meaning they would have to work together in order to get DK Isle back into the hands of the Kongs and Crocodile Island back into K. Rool's.
(Probably won't happen though)

 

[Swamp Sensei]

(which by the way is barely anything more than a remake.)

...

You blind son?

That is far from a remake.

 

[Hippopotasauce]

200% deluxe finished no revisions no turning back final final ultra super character roster

 

[Opossum]

you wanna go son

can we at least agree gen 5 has the worst starters

I disagree. I really liked Oshawott and Tepig's lines, and was neutral on Snivy.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

All of these predictions are good but some arent

My prediction roster is pretty close but it needs a tiny bit before the final post and needs to figure out

Ps sorry about double post

 

[Reznor]

I disagree. I really liked Oshawott and Tepig's lines, and was neutral on Snivy.

I hated the Tepig line the first form was ok but dumb second form looked god awful like a oval pig 3rd form looked like a 12 year old made a over designed mess
Oshawott first form was okay I liked the second form but 3rd form looks dumb

 

[MargnetMan23]

I disagree. I really liked Oshawott and Tepig's lines, and was neutral on Snivy.

I disagree Snivy is easily the best XD (though Oshawott's cool too ) Frankly my least favorite set is actually the johto starters followed by the kanto ones. Why? Because the johto starters are just not very interesting looking even my favorite of the 3 totodile is still a bit below average to me XD and for Kanto let's see what we have we have Charizard who is an orange dragon... That breathes fire! WHAT AN INTERESTING AND CREATIVE DESIGN -_- Venasaur basically just gains weight and grows a flower (still sort of cool) and those back cannons are the only thing that makes Blastoise an interesting design

 

[Hotfeet444]

I disagree Snivy is easily the best XD (though Oshawott's cool too ) Frankly my least favorite set is actually the johto starters followed by the kanto ones. Why? Because the johto starters are just not very interesting looking even my favorite of the 3 totodile is still a bit below average to me XD and for Kanto let's see what we have we have Charizard who is an orange dragon... That breathes fire! WHAT AN INTERESTING AND CREATIVE DESIGN -_- Venasaur basically just gains weight and grows a flower (still sort of cool) and those back cannons are the only thing that makes Blastoise an interesting design

My personal favorite designs are the Sinnoh set, all of them. Torterra is literally a living continent, containing the sustenance to allow creatures to live on its shell for their entire lives, Infernape is based off the same tale that Goku is, Journey to the West, which is a really interesting concept, and Empoleon...Armored Penguin with a trident on its face and his flippers are literally powerful blades. They all look great, and the second typing for each of the final evolutions makes it all the more interesting.

 

[Reznor]

My personal favorite designs are the Sinnoh set, all of them. Torterra is literally a living continent, containing the sustenance to allow creatures to live on its shell for their entire lives, Infernape is based off the same tale that Goku is, Journey to the West, which is a really interesting concept, and Empoleon...Armored Penguin with a trident on its face and his flippers are literally powerful blades. They all look great, and the second typing for each of the final evolutions makes it all the more interesting.

how would you like too see them in game because I doubt we will get 3 finals evolutions

 

[MargnetMan23]

My personal favorite designs are the Sinnoh set, all of them. Torterra is literally a living continent, containing the sustenance to allow creatures to live on its shell for their entire lives, Infernape is based off the same tale that Goku is, Journey to the West, which is a really interesting concept, and Empoleon...Armored Penguin with a trident on its face and his flippers are literally powerful blades. They all look great, and the second typing for each of the final evolutions makes it all the more interesting.

You make a very intriguing point, I still don't really like Infernape but when you lay it all out like that yeah the 4th gen do display some higher levels of creativity then the other sets still a bit indifferent to the gen as a whole...

 

[Hotfeet444]

how would you like too see them in game because I doubt we will get 3 finals evolutions

Chimchar, Grotle, Empoleon. That way, the smaller pokemon being fast actually makes sense (Unlike Squirtle), the bipedal grass type is unchanged, and the powerhouse is clad in heavy armor and is pretty durable.

God, it's getting slow, I'm having to entertain the idiotic masses of that Too Big video who claim to be thirty years old while having argument skills worse than that of a thirteen year old with down syndrome. We need a new subject...or you guys could just come and see these comments, they're hilariously bad, as is everything relating to Smash on youtube.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

God, it's getting slow, I'm having to entertain the idiotic masses of that Too Big video who claim to be thirty years old while having argument skills worse than that of a thirteen year old with down syndrome. We need a new subject...or you guys could just come and see these comments, they're hilariously bad, as is everything relating to Smash on youtube.

Any highlights?

 

[Reznor]

God, it's getting slow, I'm having to entertain the idiotic masses of that Too Big video who claim to be thirty years old while having argument skills worse than that of a thirteen year old with down syndrome. We need a new subject...or you guys could just come and see these comments, they're hilariously bad, as is everything relating to Smash on youtube.

we mostly in the Social thread
and that SuperShadowMarioFan is an idiot saw some one post one of his comments in the ridley thread
of course you can resize your self its called a diet and even if you can't Ridley isn't real (unless he exists in the multiverse )

 

[Autumn ♫]

Any highlights?

Him being about thirty seems like one.

 

[RadRedi]

Here's my roster. Some of it, I'll admit, is wishful thinking, but I think this roster would be perfect. But that's me.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Any highlights?

Does him claiming to be thirty while typing in all capitals and telling me to kiss it when I ask for proof against Ridley's inclusion count for anything?

 

[AEMehr]

Any highlights?

Here's one,

I'm not narrow minded, I just tell it as it is, your the narrow minded one. Ok, lets make it more senceable so that an idiot can understand. Can you resize yourself?

This is also the same guy who claims to be 29 - 30.

 

[3Bismyname]

Here's one.

This is also the same guy who claims to be 29 - 30.

lol he's such an idiot man. if he is about 30 then he should probably go back to school cause im reading all of his comments and there's at least one mispelled word in each one

 

[8-peacock-8]

I saw a guy laughing at the "can you shrink yourself?" argument and how he was just attacked because he thought it was funny.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

...

You blind son?

That is far from a remake.

I said barely, what's new in "Yoshi's New Island"? Things are big and Kamek has a hammer, that's worth 40$ right?

The issue here is that what your suggesting is completely pointless.
If making Bowser / Giga Bowser turn into Dry Bowser after using the Final Smash is completely aesthetic, then what is the point at having it at all? It would be better to just add it as an unlockable alternate costume rather than adding in something completely pointless that doesn't do anything for the character in the long run, which is what everyone is arguing with you about.

Why does it matter if it's pointless? Isn't having a second set of Wario costumes pointless? Is there something so wrong with having polish in a game? Dry Bowser isn't affecting anything else or keeping other stuff from being in the game. Why do you get to say what's pointless and what's not? I guess it's pointless to have Alph's ship in the background of the Pikmin stage if it doesn't do anything.

I don't see people complaining about a Doctor Mario Costume. Dry Bowser doesn't have to be a Sheik thing or a Zero Suit Samus thing. Bowser often becomes Dry Bowser during fights, so I suggested it's quite possible there may be some sort of mechanic where Bowser can become Dry Bowser either through fighting or something else. Not everything in Smash has to serve this giant frikin purpose that affects everything around them.

Dry Bowser is not a new character at all, it's a change in looks. It's no worse if not less pointless than having a second set of Wario Costumes. Should Villager not have a girl set of costumes, would that be pointless too? It doesn't do anything, it's not like girls are really gonna care that much.

You know what I think is pointless, Mewtwo becoming the awakened form as Sheik or Zero Suit Samus do. Whatever abilities he has are either going to be more powerful or not different enough to make it worth swapping or programming. The Awakened form should be it's own character.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I said barely, what's new in "Yoshi's New Island"? Things are big and Kamek has a hammer, that's worth 40$ right?

Yesh.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

I'd like to note that I said Yoshi's New Island is BARELY anything more than a remake. I'm saying it's not very new and innovative and relies on rehashing stuff from the first one. Stop twisting my words, because It's obviously not an ACTUAL remake.

My prediction roster is pretty close but it needs a tiny bit before the final post and needs to figure out

Can I lick the spoon when you're done?

Here's my roster. Some of it, I'll admit, is wishful thinking, but I think this roster would be perfect. But that's me. View attachment 1703

Suggestions

• You can represent characters in smash without them being playable. Chibi-Robo, Jill, and Dillon should be assist trophies in my opinion. There are a lot of characters from Nintendo that deserve to be in smash, just not as playable characters.

• I suggest removing Dixie and maybe having a 5th Mario character.

 

[BKupa666]

Does him claiming to be thirty while typing in all capitals and telling me to kiss it when I ask for proof against Ridley's inclusion count for anything?

I'm so conflicted on this matter...I'd love to troll the video even more, but I don't want to give Shokio any more of the attention he craves by adding to his view count.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I'm so conflicted on this matter...I'd love to troll the video even more, but I don't want to give Shokio any more of the attention he craves by adding to his view count.

Well, I don't know about you, but I never closed the page, I left it open and just set to automatically update comments.

 

[BKupa666]

Well, I don't know about you, but I never closed the page, I left it open and just set to automatically update comments.

...did I just see my video get taken seriously and linked to an actual anti-Ridley video? What the actual f**k.

 

[Autumn ♫]

...did I just see my video get taken seriously and linked to an actual anti-Ridley video? What the actual f**k.

Yes you did and now he won't believe me when I say you're pro-Ridley. Talk some sense into that kid.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

No seriously, this topic went out of hand.

 

[IsmaR]

I'd like to note that I said Yoshi's New Island is BARELY anything more than a remake. I'm saying it's not very new and innovative and relies on rehashing stuff from the first one.

Smash 4 confirmed to be barely anything more than a remake for rehashing the "knock your opponents off the stage" and using the same characters as before, everyone.

Stop twisting my words, because It's obviously not an ACTUAL remake.

I don't see the difference. It's "twisting your words" only when in your opinion it's making you look bad. Admit you made a bad call/post and no one would be "twisting your words."

 

[Deleted member]

Hotfoot's doing requests again? I request the Rhythm Wrestler. Maybe the reporter girl beside him as well.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

The comments on that video are hilarious. I'm sorry, but that guy has terrible reasoning. He ignores things just to strengthen his already weak point, and then uses awful reasoning like "turtles", "can you resize yourself?", along with the fact that he is thirty years old and making a video about the game.

*I have no problem with 30 year olds who play games. Just the ones who are as stupid as that guy.

 

[Hotfeet444]

No seriously, this topic went out of hand.

Better than seeing Noah rant about crap for hours on end.

Hotfoot's doing requests again? I request the Rhythm Wrestler. Maybe the reporter girl beside him as well.

Consider it done.

 

[AEMehr]

Why does it matter if it's pointless? Isn't having a second set of Wario costumes pointless? Is there something so wrong with having polish in a game? Dry Bowser isn't affecting anything else or keeping other stuff from being in the game. Why do you get to say what's pointless and what's not? I guess it's pointless to have Alph's ship in the background of the Pikmin stage if it doesn't do anything.

1 - It matters if it's pointless because it does take up development time, albeit less than it does for another character like Zero Suit Samus, but it still takes development time.
2 - Having Wario having two costumes isn't pointless, Wario is well known for two things. The WarioWare franchise (which can be considered where most of his current fanbase is from) and the Wario Land franchise (this sort of includes his Mario appearances too). For a character like Wario to be popular for two very different things, it would make sense to attempt to please both of his fanbases to allow you to play as the Wario from those specific games (Wario should be given some moveset changes to help represent Wario Land more though).
3 - I never said Dry Bowser in general is a bad idea, I just said the way you want to implement it is a pointless waste of development time. Why would I want to go through the time to play as Dry Bowser (with nothing unique from Bowser other than appearance which is what you're suggesting) when I could just potentially unlock him as an alternate costume and just play as him through that? If it actually did something, like perhaps make Bowser become Dry Bowser during the Final Smash have him attack as it, then that would be a different situation. But it's just something completely aesthetic that would just be pointless in the long run.
Sort of how the visible battle damage concept was in Brawl. Sure it could have been cool, but what would the game have been any different with it?
4 - Drake has nothing to do with the type of discussion we're having. It's got nothing to do with characters in the slightest, it's a background object. It's not meant to interfere or be part of the actual battle going on in the foreground.

I don't see people complaining about a Doctor Mario Costume. Dry Bowser doesn't have to be a Sheik thing or a Zero Suit Samus thing. Bowser often becomes Dry Bowser during fights, so I suggested it's quite possible there may be some sort of mechanic where Bowser can become Dry Bowser either through fighting or something else. Not everything in Smash has to serve this giant frikin purpose that affects everything around them.

5 - That's because Dr. Mario exclusively being an alternate costume of Mario makes sense.
6 - You're the person who suggested that though, but with the change being completely aesthetic. Which is why many people said, "Why not just make Dry Bowser an alternate costume then?".
7 - For the most part, everything should serve a purpose in the game because why would you want the people working on the game to make something that serves no purpose in the long run and waste their time?

Dry Bowser is not a new character at all, it's a change in looks. It's no worse if not less pointless than having a second set of Wario Costumes. Should Villager not have a girl set of costumes, would that be pointless too? It doesn't do anything, it's not like girls are really gonna care that much.

8 - It's pointless for the player to have go through a certain process in the game (like through final smash) to do become a character with no changes other that appearance. I mean if it was something like, "Get covered in Lava in Norfair and come out as Dry Bowser for the remainder of your stock" that would be a cool way to unlock the Dry Bowser alternate costume. But I wouldn't want to have to go through the trouble of doing this "Special way Bowser can become Dry Bowser" if I could just pick Dry Bowser before the round begins and play as that from the start. Alternate costumes are a great way to make people to still want to play the game after getting all of the characters.

You know what I think is pointless, Mewtwo becoming the awakened form as Sheik or Zero Suit Samus do. Whatever abilities he has are either going to be more powerful or not different enough to make it worth swapping or programming. The Awakened form should be it's own character.

9 - It's not pointless and it would be a waste of a character spot to make it's own thing, especially because it would already know every move Mewtwo would know because that is how forms work in the Pokemon games (unless you're Keldeo and you need to know a specific move in order to become this new form, which doesn't seem to be the case for Mewtwo). Why would Sakurai ignore the ability to create a new unique character whilst bringing back the universally most requested character to be added into Smash Brothers? I would love to see the ability so change up your stats to turn Mewtwo into an entirely different character whilst having the same moves. This would pretty much be giving Mewtwo a clone character that doesn't end up taking a slot.
Besides, wouldn't that basically be what you want to happen but with it taking up another character slot?

 

[Deleted member]

Wait, time for a change of pace?
AEM. POST THE IMAGE.

 

[AEMehr]

Wait, time for a change of pace?
AEM. POST THE IMAGE.

 

[shrooby]

Guyz guyz guyz! We may not need Miis to be able to play as the greatest thing to ever grace the universe!

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...aime-to-the-super-smash-bros-3ds-wii-u-roster

Ready your bodies...

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Smash 4 confirmed to be barely anything more than a remake for rehashing the "knock your opponents off the stage" and using the same characters as before, everyone.

Way to use the worst analogy you could think of, and I never said it was literally a remake, so you are twisting my words.

Let's see Yoshi's New Island has stuff that's giant and a cutscene of Kamek with a Hammer. If you can name something else in the trailer that wasn't from Yoshi's Island on SNES I'd like to hear it. Oh, wait no I wouldn't because this is the roster prediction thread not the E3 Reaction Thread.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Guyz guyz guyz! We may not need Miis to be able to play as the greatest thing to ever grace the universe!

http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitio...aime-to-the-super-smash-bros-3ds-wii-u-roster

Ready your bodies...

I signed it earlier, spread it on Facebook, and shoved it into one of my steam friend's faces until they supposedly signed it too.

Did I do good?

 

[TheCreator]

Of all people and characters....Reggie
what the ****