Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheLastJinjo]

Everything that I claimed you said (minus the one "fix'd" that you'll inevitably bring up) was a direct quote from you. You can even check.

Yeah, I'm sure Charizard not being important was a direct quote from me. Would you mind posting that or are you just going to edit what I said?

 

[Opossum]

Yeah, I'm sure Charizard not being important was a direct quote from me. Would you mind posting that or are you just going to edit what I said?

Tell me exactly where I said that, and then we'll talk. You're the only one putting words in peoples' mouths.

 

[Silverjay323]

Although its unlikely, I'd imagine a gen 3 pokemon trainer would have Blaziken, Grovyle and Mudkipz. It makes too much sense.

 

[MargnetMan23]

Although its unlikely, I'd imagine a gen 3 pokemon trainer would have Blaziken, Grovyle and Mudkipz. It makes too much sense.

My personal line up choice would have Froakie, Grovyle and umm... Arceus my bias against fire starters is strong.
Ummm Froakie, Grovyle, and ummm Serperior! XD

 

[Sebz]

GUISE!
BEST POKEMON LINE-UP WOULD BE MAGIKARP, DUNSPARCE, AND AGUMON.

 

[MargnetMan23]

GUISE!
BEST POKEMON LINE-UP WOULD BE MAGIKARP, DUNSPARCE, AND AGUMON.

No it would be Magikarp, Foretress, and OMASTAR!

 

[Hotfeet444]

No it would be Magikarp, Foretress, and OMASTAR!

By the way, you saw your Omastar drawing right?

Also...everyone, I have something I NEED to show you. People have been spamming this on my Smash videos and it is by far the poorest excuse of an argument I've ever seen...you guys really need to see this...and thumb it down.

If you die of laughter, I am not responsible.

 

[Autumn ♫]

By the way, you saw your Omastar drawing right?

Also...everyone, I have something I NEED to show you. People have been spamming this on my Smash videos and it is by far the poorest excuse of an argument I've ever seen...you guys really need to see this...and thumb it down.

If you die of laughter, I am not responsible.

Waaay ahead of you.

 

[MargnetMan23]

By the way, you saw your Omastar drawing right?

Also...everyone, I have something I NEED to show you. People have been spamming this on my Smash videos and it is by far the poorest excuse of an argument I've ever seen...you guys really need to see this...and thumb it down.

If you die of laughter, I am not responsible.

Yes... I just did not get the chance to reply but for now... You get a two tentacles up :D

 

[N3ON]

Also...everyone, I have something I NEED to show you. People have been spamming this on my Smash videos and it is by far the poorest excuse of an argument I've ever seen...you guys really need to see this...and thumb it down.

If you die of laughter, I am not responsible.

I've seen it before, and normally I like Shokio's videos, but this one is quite the disappointment. There are just so many holes in his logic, especially since he even admits Ridley has changed size and been smaller before. If he brought that kinda logic over here he'd get pretty torn apart.

Someone (smart) should debate him.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I've seen it before, and normally I like Shokio's videos, but this one is quite the disappointment. There are just so many holes in his logic, especially since he even admits Ridley has changed size and been smaller before. If he brought that kinda logic over here he'd get pretty torn apart.

Someone (smart) should debate him.

I plan on making a reply video sometime soon and literally tearing everything he said apart.

 

[Sebz]

My face when watching that video:

 

[Opossum]

Someone go teach that guy a lesson. Preferably someone with an active Youtube account.

 

[Reznor]

like N3ON said usually his vids are good but my god he doesn't use any logic in this video at all

comparing Ridley to Goku and Naruto is probably the worst part

 

[Hotfeet444]

Someone go teach that guy a lesson. Preferably someone with an active Youtube account.

You've got it.

like N3ON said usually his vids are good but my god he doesn't use any logic in this video at all

comparing Ridley to Goku and Naruto is probably the worst part

Really? I thought the part of spamming other videos with that lack of knowledge at the very end was the worst part.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Someone go teach that guy a lesson. Preferably someone with an active Youtube account.

I may do it, I may not. I'm thinking of uploading my new roster first though.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Also...everyone, I have something I NEED to show you. People have been spamming this on my Smash videos and it is by far the poorest excuse of an argument I've ever seen...you guys really need to see this...and thumb it down.

If you die of laughter, I am not responsible.

There you go, darted in and down-voted the video and up-voted your comments, hah. Didn't bother actually watching the video, but... what can I say. That's how we vote in America.

 

[Autumn ♫]

There you go, darted in and down-voted the video and up-voted your comments, hah. Didn't bother actually watching the video, but... what can I say. That's how we vote in America.

 

[Reznor]

Really? I thought the part of spamming other videos with that lack of knowledge at the very end was the worst part.

wait hes spamming the vid himself I thought it was his followers
rewatched it ya he tells people to spam the vid annoying

your going to the ridley thread for your vid right?

 

[BKupa666]

That's how we vote in America.

You know what else we need to do in America?

Take back our Smash Bros. to its moral beginnings.

Join and donate to the National Organization for Smash Bros. Canon to help fund Ridl-ay Conversion Therapy treatment in local hospitals.

Also upvote my link to that video on Shokio's video so he, too, may see the light.

 

[Reznor]

You know what else we need to do in America?

Take back our Smash Bros. to its moral beginnings.

Join and donate to the National Organization for Smash Bros. Canon to help fund Ridl-ay Conversion Therapy treatment in local hospitals.

Also upvote my link to that video on Shokio's video so he, too, may see the light.

I love your voice Embarrass

 

[Bajef8]

This thread moves way too quickly for me to keep up. Now let me try and tackle this beast here.

So you're NOT being rude? Also, why did you post the definition? Because I posted the definiton of idea? Why are you copying what I did? I posted the definition because it was used out of context. You posted rude because?

don't speak about recency because I'm not sure you understand how to apply it to arguments and when not to.
As if YOU ever did?


those guys are too iconic for most people to not see why they won't be gone.



Pokeballs were made to rep more Pokemon.
Reeeeeeeeeally? Are you SURE???

You're ignorant if you think that cuts will happen. They won't happen due to lack of space

Then why DO they happen? Also why is it ignorant to think cuts will happen when Sakurai told us "Not every character may return from Brawl."

As for the rest. I'm perfectly aware why Pokemon Trainer should stay. Excuse me for trying something new. Next time all consult the leauge of super speculators before posting something, as to avoid people taking it more seriously than a troll in a YouTube comment of a Mario game.

Also I can't answer all of your posts if my inbox is full of Gif's and rants. I can't read them ALL

Next time come up with an organized list of SUGGESTIONS. And then I will read and respond accordingly.

First, the definition was to mock you. Since you insulted our intelligence as if we don't know what "idea"means. So I did the same thing to you, with a word that applies to how you post and react to us. Sorry if that went over your head.

Here is everything we didn't like about your roster in list form. Ya know, since you can't read it unless it's perfectly organized.

Here's Hotfeet and many of our issues with it (copy & pasted from Hotfeet's post):
If you're going to have a Pokemon Trainer, you keep the Kanto Trainer (Kanto Trainer is THE trainer & by far the most iconic)
Too many Fire Emblem characters as it should not match Zelda and Pokemon (FE is not that big of a series, anything more than 3 is too much)
Bomberman will never happen before Snake (nuff said)
Sonic's chances of returning are so high they might as well just confirm him (obviously)
Mewtwo's already being considered so making him DLC is pointless (Read all the other DLC posts as to why it's stupid to make him DLC)
Get rid of the idea of Skull Kid because it will never happen (It won't happen. I 100% guarantee it.)
The Dry Bowser idea is just bad in itself (The final smash thing is stupid. A costume on the other hand is a great an welcomed idea.)
Nobody wants to play as DK. Jr before Dixie Kong
Why the hell are 8-bit Mario and Metal Mario considered ideas (Ideas of what? I don't understand what that means. Metal is redundant, and I'd argue Doc has better chances than an 8-bit)

Here's my personal issues:

Don't plan DLC characters from the start, it's stupid. Especially if you're talking about cuts. DLC is the exact opposite of cuts. They won't cut somebody just to make them DLC.​

Cuts aren't final. You're ignorant if you think that cuts will happen. They won't happen due to lack of space, and Sakurai himself doesn't like them.​

*to add here, cuts for Roy and Mewtwo probably happened due to time. Hence why they had large amount of data while the other Forbidden 7 didn't. Thinking major character will be cut because of any reason but time is stupid.​

Gen 1 Pokemon just happened to make the biggest impact on the series. Pikachu is staying. Jiggs is most likely staying now. Mewtwo is most likely making a return. (See what I did there?) PKMN Trainer isn't going anywhere when he is repping Red and has Charizard. Sorry if those guys are too iconic for most people to not see why they won't be gone. Pokeballs were made to rep more Pokemon.​

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Next time don't just pick out the words of mine you want to use. Quote the whole thing you're addressing. So here it all is, listed and all. Now how about you become civil and just address these thoughts and opinions, instead of just raging, being rude, insulting us, or blatantly ignoring things. If you've argued a point already, do it again. This thread's massive and moves quickly. Doesn't hurt to put your arguments up here instead of saying, "Oh it's back 50-100 pages, why didn't you read it?"​

 

[Hotfeet444]

There you go, darted in and down-voted the video and up-voted your comments, hah. Didn't bother actually watching the video, but... what can I say. That's how we vote in America.

There you go, darted in and down-voted the video and up-voted your comments, hah. Didn't bother actually watching the video, but... what can I say. That's how we vote in America.

Please tell me you're joking. I did watch all of it...I haven't seen anything so devoid of logic since Capcom's excuse to not have MegaMan and Pac-Man on the Xbox 360 version of Street Fighter X Tekken. By the way, I'm Canadian.

 

[BKupa666]

I plan on making a reply video sometime soon and literally tearing everything he said apart.

I was going to say, both of your most upvoted comments on that video are full of the brutal honesty that keeps me sane while reading YouTube comments.

It's seriously just:

"PINKIE PIE FOR SMASH"
"yeah effin people hes too big"

"Ridley is not too big, f***ing deal with it buddy. You're trying to debunk a character in a series that's not even canon, so his size DOESN'T MATTER. Please, you're a f***ing moron, saying "S**t" and "N***a" over and over again doesn't make you right. The Melee intro already debunks anything you have to say. Just take down this video, and you people, thumbs down this crap."​

...​

"hahahahahahaha ya man hes big as s**t"

 

[FlareHabanero]

Why would anyone take Youtube seriously?

 

[Hotfeet444]

I was going to say, both of your most upvoted comments on that video are full of the brutal honesty that keeps me sane while reading YouTube comments.

It's seriously just:

"PINKIE PIE FOR SMASH"
"yeah effin people hes too big"

"Ridley is not too big, f***ing deal with it buddy. You're trying to debunk a character in a series that's not even canon, so his size DOESN'T MATTER. Please, you're a f***ing moron, saying "S**t" and "N***a" over and over again doesn't make you right. The Melee intro already debunks anything you have to say. Just take down this video, and you people, thumbs down this crap."​

...​

"hahahahahahaha ya man hes big as s**t"

Hah hah, yeah, totally. Wait...my comments are upvoted?

 

[MargnetMan23]

Why would anyone take Youtube seriously?

The videos can be good the people that comment are idiots XD

 

[Reznor]

Why would anyone take Youtube seriously?

casuals and sadly they do outnumber us

 

[IsmaR]

Fennekin to me is actually one of the best looking fire starters to me but that's not saying much because I still like Froakie a lot more :D

Though, that sort of sucks, because while I like them all, Fennekin is my least favorite of the Kalos Starters, haha.

well that does make it very likely

Fennekin will be called the best starter and be the most popular starter ever calling it now (and I shall never use him)

I actually am split between the starters myself (though leaning towards Chespin because I love physical Grass types).

Fennekin is unfortunately got Fire-type-itis to the logical extreme, on top of FireFox just making it auto-over-used/picked.

I'm not really offended someone couldn't tell I was a girl based on text alone... but I'll take a rain-cheque for the next time I need someone to take offense for me, thanks!

It's my chivalry-bound duty, ma'am.
Truth be told I haven't cared for a while either, mainly because others tend to correct 'em on my behalf.
Also I'd actually like Pinkie Pie.

 

[MargnetMan23]

casuals and sadly they do outnumber us

Is there something inherently wrong with being a casual gamer? XD

 

[Reznor]

Is there something inherently wrong with being a casual gamer? XD

well there are 2 types of casual gamer 1 is ok and the other is just terrible

 

[FlareHabanero]

well there are 2 types of casual gamer 1 is ok and the other is just terrible

So basically one is the normal and the other are the obnoxious 10 year old who curse up a storm on Call of Duty.

 

[MargnetMan23]

well there are 2 types of casual gamer 1 is ok and the other is just terrible

Are the kind that are terrible the ones who try to suggest stuff in games when they should know they have no clue what the **** they're talking about? :D

 

[Reznor]

So basically one is the normal and the other are the obnoxious 10 year old who curse up a storm on Call of Duty.

Are the kind that are terrible the ones who try to suggest stuff in games when they should know they have no clue what the **** they're talking about? :D

yes

 

[Hotfeet444]

Is there something inherently wrong with being a casual gamer? XD

There's nothing with a casual gamer, it's just if you're going to hate/like something, at least have something backing it up before going to a random video and believing everything you're thrown. The least one can do is at least know the general idea of Smash Bros...it's a NON-CANON all-star fighting game...size has never mattered for anyone in the franchise. If size mattered, Olimar wouldn't be in the game, Bowser would be towering over everyone, Ganondorf would be over half the size of other characters, Sonic would be shorter than Mario, Jigglypuff, Pikachu, Kirby and Meta Knight would all be puny, and King Dedede would be short compared to other heavyweights.

 

[Opossum]

I actually am split between the starters myself (though leaning towards Chespin because I love physical Grass types).

Fennekin is unfortunately got Fire-type-itis to the logical extreme, on top of FireFox just making it auto-over-used/picked.


It's my chivalry-bound duty, ma'am.
Truth be told I haven't cared for a while either, mainly because others tend to correct 'em on my behalf.
Also I'd actually like Pinkie Pie.

I always loved Froakie from the start, but Chespin's growing on me, as well. Though, Gogoat is definitely going to be my Grass-type in my first playthrough.

And I actually made a Special moveset for Pinkie Pie a while back just for fun, if you're interested.

 

[BKupa666]

Hah hah, yeah, totally. Wait...my comments are upvoted?

At least on my YouTube display, your comment hoping for a reversal of 'likes' and 'dislikes' on the video has 9 upvotes, while the one I linked above calling Shokio what he is has 7.

Basically, the sense I get from his videos and blogs is that he, like so many others, projects his wants as fact...his Mii article, for example, discusses how Miis won't get in because 'they're not characters' and 'everyone would play as them.' Legitimate reasons to dislike the character (ha), but not grounded in reality at all.

 

[Bajef8]

Hotfeet, I just realized I've seen you roster prediction stuff on YouTube months ago. The internet is a small place haha

 

[LaniusShrike]

Please tell me you're joking. I did watch all of it...I haven't seen anything so devoid of logic since Capcom's excuse to not have MegaMan and Pac-Man on the Xbox 360 version of Street Fighter X Tekken. By the way, I'm Canadian.

Joking about which part? I couldn't watch the video-- I'm in the room with my girlfriend so I'm keepin' the sound off. I did thumbs-down the video and thumbs-up your comments... It was easy, seeing as you currently are winning both "Top Comment" spots, heh.

And yes, willfully and woefully uninformed but full of confidence is indeed how the average USA citizen votes.

I do think the fact that Smash is a non-canon game is a really important point to bring up in the size discussion. They're not the characters themselves, they're animated trophies.

 

[Hotfeet444]

At least on my YouTube display, your comment hoping for a reversal of 'likes' and 'dislikes' on the video has 9 upvotes, while the one I linked above calling Shokio what he is has 7.

Basically, the sense I get from his videos and blogs is that he, like so many others, projects his wants as fact...his Mii article, for example, discusses how Miis won't get in because 'they're not characters' and 'everyone would play as them.' Legitimate reasons to dislike the character (ha), but not grounded in reality at all.

Hah, would you look at that, looks like people actually agreed with me. On youtube, that's probably a first. As for the Mii video, I really need to check it out now, especially if an excuse like "Everyone would play as them" is used. XD

Hotfeet, I just realized I've seen you roster prediction stuff on YouTube months ago. The internet is a small place haha

I'm surprised half of my stuff is even cared about as much as they are. I mean seriously, where did 90,000 views come from!?