Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[MexM]

Nobody in the West would even care for Roy if he wasn't in Melee.
*helps you form a large flame barricade*

That's actually true. lol

 

[ZeldaMaster]

The fact that Arena Ferox has already been revealed pretty much guarantees an Awakening character. Why a stage without its corresponding character?

 

[DeathKidZ100]

came somebody judge my roster

came somebody judge my roster

i would add the wii fit trainer if they had the picture XD

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

The fact that Arena Ferox has already been revealed pretty much guarantees an Awakening character. Why a stage without its corresponding character?

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[ZeldaMaster]

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Well, let me put it this way, why a stage from a game from a franchise that is already repped with characters in Smash?

came somebody judge my roster

Hmmm... gotta disagree with Toad, Tingle, Meowth, Unova Trainer and for the love of god, Geno.
Other than that its pretty good.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Well, let me put it this way, why a stage from a game from a franchise that is already repped with characters in Smash?

I suppose for the same reasons we got Mario Circuit, Mario Bros., and 75m. Not because they necessarily apply to recent games of a series or correlate to one character in specific, but because they simply work as stages people would recognize. Arena Ferox was the setting of multiple Fire Emblem trailers, an early game major battle, and a puzzle in the Mii Plaza Puzzle Swap... Why wouldn't people familiar with Fire Emblem recognize it?

 

[ZeldaMaster]

I suppose for the same reasons we got Mario Circuit, Mario Bros., and 75m. Not because they necessarily apply to recent games of a series or correlate to one character in specific, but because they simply work as stages people would recognize. Arena Ferox was the setting of multiple Fire Emblem trailers, an early game major battle, and a puzzle in the Mii Plaza Puzzle Swap... Why wouldn't people familiar with Fire Emblem recognize it?

Well, of all the potential FE stages that Sakurai could have chose, why one from Awakening? What makes you think that a character repping the most successful game from its respective franchise (which SAVED the entire series, mind you) could not happen?

 

[IsmaR]

Did you stop to consider all the DLC characters playable in Awakening? Technically if we got any of those, they'd be "Awakening" characters.

 

[FalKoopa]

This thread moved quite a bit...

We're talking Fire Emblem again?

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

 

[Reznor]

This thread moved quite a bit...

We're talking Fire Emblem again?

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

I swear its always about FE even when its not people make it about FE quickly

so who has more of a chance to be playable Shulk or Isaac

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Isaac, I'd assume.

But then Shulk would be a worthy rep to represent the Wii era and they'll probably be a few of those.

It's an equals sort of situation I'd feel with those two.

 

[Ember Reaper]

I want both so badly....
I'd say Shulk because of his big impact and the whole Operation Rainfall Thing.
Isaac would have more warrant due to having more games, but it's argued because his recent game wasn't as good as the other 2, and didn't star him he won't be in. Idk... personally I see Shulk being more likely, but There's probably bias by that as you can tell by my signature and profile pic. He's my most wanted and Isaac is number 2
These Shulk vs. Isaac things always hurt just a smidge

 

[FalKoopa]

Isaac has more demand in the west, but quite less in Japan, and he stars in 3 games (playable in 2) so I think he's more deserving to be playable than Shulk.

As for who's more likely, I'm not sure because I don't know about Shulk's demand in Japan.

 

[mimgrim]

How is that? All his moves are more powerful, and he's almost the same speed. You're thinking of Pichu.

Go read discussions about Roy and Marth in the character discussion of Melee and the tier list. Marth can do everything Roy does way way better. Even Roy users say this.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Isaac has more demand in the west, but quite less in Japan, and he stars in 3 games (playable in 2) so I think he's more deserving to be playable than Shulk.

As for who's more likely, I'm not sure because I don't know about Shulk's demand in Japan.

if i remember correctly, some people here have already talked about how Shulk has a lot of demand in Japan.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Palutena is more unique, requested, recurring, and important to Kid Icarus than Magnus. She is the Zelda of the game. Magnus is no better than another Ike with a bigger sword, and we have enough swordsmen. He also didn't play a huge role in Kid Icarus. He's more of an Assist Trophy.

Sakurai already stated Namco characters are not getting any special treatment. And if Snake is not present I think Bomberman would take his place.

Why Takamaru is possible: She is one of the most classic Famicom games in Japan and Western gamers recognize him. Why is he not possible?

This is how Palutena is possible:

Palutena has mentioned several times that she is NOT all knowing and NOT all powerful. So how does she not work?

Shulk? How does he not work? Please explain.

Ike is not going anywhere, he is the most popular lord of all (not counting Marth.)

As for Mewtwo, it has not been confirmed how Mewtwo becomes his awakened form. It's like assuming Mew can change into Mewtwo on command. Not to mention Mewtwo's new form probably isn't going to be unique enough from his normal form to warrant him his own interchangeable character.

ok you commenced me a palutena I crossed out that change

and as for mewtwo yes nothings know about the form but its just my theory why his final smash is not going to be his new form

and for reason why I don't see shulk never heard of him never heard of his series

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

ok you commenced me a palutena I crossed out that change

and as for mewtwo yes nothings know about the form but its just my theory why his final smash is not going to be his new form

and for reason why I don't see shulk never heard of him never heard of his series

I love your grammar. *laughs*
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Shulk is from Xenoblade Chronicles, a game for Wii.

The game takes place on the bodies of two dead titans, the Bionis, and the Mechonis, who once fought eachother long before the events of the game.

Shulk wields a sword called the Monado, which was originally used by a guy named Dunban. Shulk also has the ability to see visions of the future at times.

I'm too lazy to explain every part of the story, but it's a pretty cool game. It has beautiful scenery and great music and voice acting.

I highly recommend watching a walkthough of the game on YouTube. After watching one, I really wanted to see Xenoblade content in Smash Bros.

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[Autumn ♫]

Between Shulk and Isaac, I really want Shulk more. I never cared much for Isaac. I should probably leave now.

 

[N3ON]

Personally, I'd obviously take Isaac over Shulk (even though I really want to see both), but chance wise it's a lot tougher. I'd say it's close to a toss-up, but I'd give Isaac just a slight edge, though I wouldn't be surprised if either one made it while the other didn't... but hopefully we get both, they are both great characters from great series that deserve representation imo.

 

[mimgrim]

Wow I must really be the only one to think that both Shulk and Issac won't get in for some reason. :/

 

[Gune]

Rather have Isaac than shulk if I had to choose one classic's over new games IMO.

 

[TheCreator]

Somebody please tell noah that the new pokemon movie is out in japan, and that whenever he transforms he is not called "neomew" He's still the same pokemon. Did it really take the movie to prove this? Like when any other pokemon changes form does it become a different pokemon? No not shaymin, deoxys, giritina, ect.
And I lol every time he says that bomberman is a likely addition. I suppose Sora would be too, if Noah was a fan of his.

Anyhow between Isaac and Shulk, idk I never include either on my roster but odds are we'll get one. And personally I feel Isaac is more likely.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Somebody please tell noah that the new pokemon movie is out in japan, and that whenever he transforms he is not called "neomew" He's still the same pokemon. Did it really take the movie to prove this? Like when any other pokemon changes form does it become a different pokemon? No not shaymin, deoxys, giritina, ect.
And I lol every time he says that bomberman is a likely addition. I suppose Sora would be too, if Noah was a fan of his.

Anyhow between Isaac and Shulk, idk I never include either on my roster but odds are we'll get one. And personally I feel Isaac is more likely.

"Neomew" is only a nickname. Just like "Newtwo" or "Skymin".

I'd like both Isaac and Shulk, but I don't know who's more likely. Both are pretty popular requests.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I'd rather have both Shulk and Isaac.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

"Neomew" is only a nickname. Just like "Newtwo" or "Skymin".

I'd like both Isaac and Shulk, but I don't know who's more likely. Both are pretty popular requests.

The difference is that nobody is saying Neomew besides Noah for the reason that it's incredibly dumb.

I'd say Isaac is more likely in terms of being older and appearing in more games. People say Shulk should get in over Isaac on part of Xenoblade Chronicles being such a good game, but they forget that Golden Sun was also a 10/10 game at its time.

 

[The Black mage]

Well, the Super smash bros website finally updated...
... But it was rather shallow, only having confirmation of Olimar and his Pikmin.
Hopefully something rather exiting will come next update.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I don't really mind Noah saying NeoMew or whatever, it's as bad as me saying Buutwo.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I don't really mind Noah saying NeoMew or whatever, it's as bad as me saying Buutwo.

At least Buutwo makes sense in that he resembles that character. Newtwo doesn't look like he's from the Matrix nor does he have any neon lighting, however... So where the hell does Neo come from?

Well, the Super smash bros website finally updated...
... But it was rather shallow, only having confirmation of Olimar and his Pikmin.
Hopefully something rather exiting will come next update.

 

[The Black mage]

I don't really mind Noah saying NeoMew or whatever, it's as bad as me saying Buutwo.

Buutwo... my god... hehaaahahaa.

 

[8-peacock-8]

 

[The Black mage]

My god, I am such a Slowpoke.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I don't quite understand why people are so confident with Golden Sun getting a lot more exposure this time around.

 

[N3ON]

I don't quite understand why people are so confident with Golden Sun getting a lot more exposure this time around.

Because when new games happen, and Sakurai looks for new series to implement, he generally goes for the biggest ones not yet included, which is Wii Fit > AC > Punch-Out > GS. (not counting Nintendogs, Brain Age, and that kinda stuff - though Mii could still happen).

 

[FlareHabanero]

Because when new games happen, and Sakurai looks for new series to implement, he generally goes for the biggest ones not yet included, which is Wii Fit > AC > Punch-Out > GS. (not counting Nintendogs, Brain Age, and that kinda stuff - though Mii could still happen).

[citation needed]

 

[N3ON]

[citation needed]

If you want I can go get some proof, but which series other than one without a feasible character or the three I listed before GS (or Mii) do you think is bigger than GS?

 

[FlareHabanero]

If you want I can go get some proof.

Yes, go out of your way to prove a statement that cannot be proven.

 

[N3ON]

Yes, go out of your way to prove a statement that cannot be proven.

So... you don't have a series you can think of that's bigger than the ones I mentioned? Because you can try to draw focus away from the actual point of my sentence all you want... but it's not going to change the validity of it.

 

[FlareHabanero]

That's not the point, the point I'm getting across is that there isn't any proof out there that states anything is higher or lower on the pedestal and trying to read the minds of the developers and designers is a fruitless endeavor.

 

[N3ON]

That's not the point, the point I'm getting across is that there isn't any proof out there that states anything is higher or lower on the pedestal and trying to read the minds of the developers and designers is a fruitless endeavor.

No, there's no list of Nintendo series ranked by how "big" they are, but it's pretty clear to see that Sakurai does choose the biggest ones. I mean, for Brawl, which series with feasible characters (at that time) that didn't get included were bigger than the series included up until that point? None...
(obviously excluding retros)

So yes, normally trying to predict Sakurai will often end up futile, but as this is a Nintendo crossover and there is a precedence of the largest series being picked, it makes sense to think that tradition will continue, which is one of the reasons people are predicting a Golden Sun character, as Golden Sun is one of the larger remaining series. I'm not saying a GS character is a guarantee, hardly, but apart from Little Mac, Mii, and the already confirmed newcomers, Isaac's series has left the biggest impact (even if not a recent impact) of those remaining.

 

[Reznor]

there's no list of Nintendo series ranked by how "big" they are.

wait can't you just go buy how many copies they sell but I say we make one for fun i'll start

Mario is 1 and Pokemon is 2 (take that Zelda fans)