Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[TheCreator]

Noah's ignore list is growing. We must have a lot of stupid people on these boards.

If you simply choose to just ignore reality and history to make yourself right about everything you say and think, I have no use for you. *ignore*

Yikes.....nothing needs to be said here.
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[Hotfeet444]

Of course people are going to think "Lucario over Mewtwo" means only that if that's all they read. I mean did you have your face pressed against the screen. Also if you read the part where I said "Lucario hasn't had a chance, and Mewtwo has" That's a reason for him to be in SSB4? If I recall, Lucario had his chance in Brawl.

It said Lucario Over Mewtwo and a list of reasons why he got in over Mewtwo in Brawl. There you go again ignoring the facts. Claiming that I still think what you said I think. And then every time someone explains why what you said is wrong, you just end with "You lose every argument and anything you say is wrong." Why am I even wasting my time typing this, you've got to be like the youngest person on this website.

Also saying that what you I said is a waste of time or always wrong does it make it so. You have to come up with reasons and examples. Something you don't ever do when claiming these things, why? because you are wrong so they only thing left to do is say that you're not and that everybody else is. Do you want reasons why you're wrong? Go back to the posts Ariand/AEM and I made about Classic Link and how you simply ended the debate with "I'm done talking about this." Me and Ariand/AEM BOTH pointed out that you ignore what I say so that you can say that I'm wrong by pretending that what I said doesn't exist or in this situation meant something COMPLETELY different. That is how you work. Twist what we say, say we didn't mean what we said, or just pretend we never said anything at all.

If you simply choose to just ignore reality and history to make yourself right about everything you say and think, I have no use for you. *ignore*



It's so he reads it before replying this time.

TL;DR, you can't even weasel your way out of being wrong without blocking someone, it's no wonder you've been banned multiple times.

I'm on the ignore list now? THANK GOD! And here I thought I'd have everything I say bashed on by a child with no knowledge of what he's talking about and thinks he's smart enough to know how I think! Oh how classic! And you're so petty you can't even stay on subject for more than twenty seconds, especially when you claim someone else of having to give reasons and examples for things when you yourself have never been able to prove ANYTHING you say.

So, those on Noah's ignore list, can I get a high five? :D

Edit: Hee hee hee, he has no use for me, that's quite funny, but I'm not sure what's funnier, the fact that I've been pissing him off on purpose or the fact that that statement makes him look like a condescending prick? Either way, FREEDOM!

 

[Gune]

Why does everyone have to be so hard on noah sometimes I mean really....

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Why does everyone have to be so hard on noah sometimes I mean really....

It's just HotFeet, don't worry about it.

New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

 

[Hotfeet444]

Why does everyone have to be so hard on noah sometimes I mean really....

Because when some mouth-breathing troglodyte actually comes in acts like he's superior to you in everything while giving nothing to back up anything he says, people are going to get pissed off and therefore retaliate. I mean seriously, there's a reason he's been banned about four times from this site. I mean seriously, when he gives a couple of opinionated examples, he calls them FACTS, when it fact they aren't even close.

It's just HotFeet, don't worry about it.

New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

You see my point yet? Many people don't agree with his ideals, but just because I speak out against it, I'm instantly the only one who does, and if anyone tries to persist, they get ignored, and the proof I have are several different people here on this site that have been blocked for thinking differently and backing him into a corner on flawed logic. Whatever, only a coward hides behind an ignore button anyways.

So I say support Classic Link just to piss him off even more.

 

[AEMehr]

New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

It's probably too much credit for right now.
Let Isaac come in and then a second one could be plausible for the following game.

Or at least that is what I would say.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I really doubt a second character for GS, until it gets really popular.

 

[Autumn ♫]

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New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

I'm not even sure if Golden Sun is going to get 1, so 2 is out of the question for me.

 

[Gune]

Oh you guys...

 

[Autumn ♫]

It's just HotFeet, don't worry about it.

I don't know, HotFeet gained some respect from me, personally I just think everyone's cool though.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I don't know, HotFeet gained some respect from me, personally I just think everyone's cool though.

Well, I do alot more for this thread than just complain about the little things like he does, I help you all support the characters you want by drawing fan-art for you guys, free of charge, unlike those who would take advantage of you for a quick buck and draw something half-assed, I even draw characters I don't even like, AKA Sora, who I'm working on right now and moving onto Anna next. By the way...I'd like Anna's family to meet Nurse Joy's family...it'd be one heck of a look-alike party.

 

[N3ON]

It's just HotFeet, don't worry about it.

New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

No way is GS going to get more than a single rep. Like Earthbound, it probably wouldn't get a second for at least two more games with a new release close to at least one of those games to prompt a new character inclusion. But if we get a GS character, that character is going to be the only one representing his series for a long time.

 

[AEMehr]

I don't know, HotFeet gained some respect from me, personally I just think everyone's cool though.

Yes, let's just try to stray away from this pointless argument and continue onto a new subject.

How about Retro characters then?
A lot of us are placing bets on Takamaru but if history serves, Sakurai tends to go towards the not as expected characters with this type of character. If Sakurai wanted to surprise with a retro character that wasn't one most of us expect (Takamaru & Sukapon), who do you think it would be?

I've always thought Muddy Mole would be an interesting "Surprising" retro character, I mean he's mentioned Muddy being a possibility in both of the previous and he's from the currently remaining Miyamoto franchise that lacks a playable character.

By the way...I'd like Anna's family to meet Nurse Joy's family...it'd be one heck of a look-alike party.

Anna, Nurse Joy, Officer Jenny, and Don George's families meeting would be a interesting thing to see.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well, I do alot more for this thread than just complain about the little things like he does, I help you all support the characters you want by drawing fan-art for you guys, free of charge, unlike those who would take advantage of you for a quick buck and draw something half-*****, I even draw characters I don't even like, AKA Sora, who I'm working on right now and moving onto Anna next. By the way...I'd like Anna's family to meet Nurse Joy's family...it'd be one heck of a look-alike party.

Are you drawing the FE Anna? I'm pretty sure by average standards, she doesn't have one.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Are you drawing the FE Anna? I'm pretty sure by average standards, she doesn't have one.

Yes, it's FE Anna, and she doesn't? She said she has a bunch of identical sisters with the same name though.

Edit: Did anyone else request Roy other than Noah? Because I already drew him and I'd hate to waste a good drawing.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Yes, it's FE Anna, and she doesn't? She said she has a bunch of identical sisters with the same name though.

Edit: Did anyone else request Roy other than Noah? Because I already drew him and I'd hate to waste a good drawing.

I'd like to see it please.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yes, it's FE Anna, and she doesn't? She said she has a bunch of identical sisters with the same name though.

Edit: Did anyone else request Roy other than Noah? Because I already drew him and I'd hate to waste a good drawing.

Oh yeah, how the heck did I forget that O_o.
That's rather a good idea Hotfeet.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I'd like to see it please.

Well, it's not scanned yet, I've only finished Roy, Lyn, Joshua, Vaati and Professor Layton so far and am currently drawing Sora while hyped up on caffeine. I still need to draw a Bushi class, the Masked Man, Anna, Ashley, Lip, Medusa, Meowth, Omastar and the Hoenn Female Trainer with Mudkip, Grovyle and Blaziken before I publish it.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

No way is GS going to get more than a single rep. Like Earthbound, it probably wouldn't get a second for at least two more games with a new release close to at least one of those games to prompt a new character inclusion. But if we get a GS character, that character is going to be the only one representing his series for a long time.

What about Dark Dawn? Also why is it less deserving than EarthBound. I mean I know Mother 2 is classic in North America, but I don't see the series as a whole any less popular than Mother, at least in America.

 

[BluePikmin11]

What about Dark Dawn? Also why is it less deserving than EarthBound. I mean I know Mother 2 is classic in North America, but I don't see the series as a whole any less popular than Mother, at least in America.

Because there is a special element in the Mother series that perhaps made Sakurai add Lucas.
Also, was Dark Dawn a better game than the original?

 

[Autumn ♫]

Well, it's not scanned yet, I've only finished Roy, Lyn, Joshua, Vaati and Professor Layton so far and am currently drawing Sora while hyped up on caffeine. I still need to draw a Bushi class, the Masked Man, Anna, Ashley, Lip, Medusa, Meowth, Omastar and the Hoenn Female Trainer with Mudkip, Grovyle and Blaziken before I publish it.

All right, I guess Roy will be my 2nd one. I actually used to be pretty good at drawing but now not so much, I guess I should try to draw again before Marching Band takes up almost all of my time.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Hey, I didn't say anything did I? I will say this though, I had to reset the chapter because I killed Tharja by accident.

Spoiler

Well, at least you didn't speak her name.

http://www.cubed3.com/news/19230/1/...n-online-adventure-dlc-counter-operative.html
This guy gets it (about the clone part)
It's basically my roster's description.

He called Wolf a clone.
People won't be happy about that.

In general, it's a cool list. The one about Assist Trophies and Pokeball Pokemon being controllable is particularly interesting.

It's just HotFeet, don't worry about it.

New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

I'm not sure.
I'd like to see a new series that gets 2 newcomers, like Fire Emblem did in Melee.

Okay, so that's a roster that I've been working on for a while. What do you guys think about it?
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Not sure if Bowser Jr. or Toad should get the fifth Mario slot.
49 characters? Why not have 50 and put the random slot somewhere else?

Because there is a special element in the Mother series that perhaps made Sakurai add Lucas.
Also, was Dark Dawn a better game than the original?

I hear people and reviews say that's it's not as good as the original two GBA games, but I haven't played it for myself.

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[TheLastJinjo]

Guys you have to understand, Random Slot is a very important character in the Smash Universe. He deserves to be on the roster even if it means there won't be room for someone else.

 

[Oddyesy]

It's just HotFeet, don't worry about it.

New Subject: I think Golden Sun would be just as represented as EarthBound. Is it safe to say it may get 2 reps, or would that be giving the franchise too much credit?

Yes please. And I see that a person(s) seem to dislike you.

 

[AEMehr]

Well, it's not scanned yet, I've only finished Roy, Lyn, Joshua, Vaati and Professor Layton so far and am currently drawing Sora while hyped up on caffeine. I still need to draw a Bushi class, the Masked Man, Anna, Ashley, Lip, Medusa, Meowth, Omastar and the Hoenn Female Trainer with Mudkip, Grovyle and Blaziken before I publish it.

You keep forgetting baby seal

;-;

 

[Hotfeet444]

You keep forgetting baby seal

;-;

Oh sorry, I honestly didn't know you wanted that drawn, I thought that was a joke. ^_^; If you want it, I can do it, but it may come after the others since drawing real-life animals is harder for me.

And just in case I can't get it drawn because of issues with drawing real-life animals, here's a drawing of Squiggly and Big Band:

Spoiler

 

[N3ON]

What about Dark Dawn? Also why is it less deserving than EarthBound. I mean I know Mother 2 is classic in North America, but I don't see the series as a whole any less popular than Mother, at least in America.

What about Dark Dawn? In this comparison to Earthbound, Isaac would get in several years after the release of the latest game in his series, and likely wouldn't get a second character until a new release several installments later (like Lucas in Brawl) when the bar for inclusion is lower than it is currently, because GS doesn't need two reps, as cool as that'd be. So it really wouldn't be until like... SSB6, even though the series will like reinvent itself by then. At this point, even with Dark Dawn, Golden Sun is not really in a position where it warrants more than a single character.

And yes, Golden Sun is generally more popular in NA than the Mother series, but in Japan (which usually gets priority) Mother is a big deal. Like, a really big deal, much more than GS is in America. And keep in mind that originally Sakurai was only planning to have Ness (64), then Lucas without Ness (Melee), and then only when the roster got as big as it did did he have both characters. Also, Ness and Lucas (and other Mother characters) have a lot of popularity in Japan, whereas Isaac is really the only GS character to have popularity anywhere... so without demand, it's unlikely Sakurai would bother adding another character for a series like GS unless GS gets a lot bigger and more popular post-SSB4.

Also, was Dark Dawn a better game than the original?

It's not. But if you enjoyed the first two (which you should probably begin with), I'd still recommend playing it.

 

[Deleted member]

That Big Band guy or whatever reminds me of the Hiruko puppet Sasori had in Naruto.

Well anyways, I have a drawing request, Hotfeet. That is if you don't mind.
My request is Mach Rider, using his "updated" design from Melee.

 

[Hotfeet444]

That Big Band guy or whatever reminds me of the Hiruko puppet Sasori had in Naruto.

Well anyways, I have a drawing request, Hotfeet. That is if you don't mind.
My request is Mach Rider, using his "updated" design from Melee.

Well, since two requests were cut, I can definitely fit him in. Would you prefer him to be on the bike or in a fighting pose with his bike behind him?

 

[Deleted member]

Well, since two requests were cut, I can definitely fit him in. Would you prefer him to be on the bike or in a fighting pose with his bike behind him?

.....

I am having a hard time deciding whether I want a picture of him firing the bike's machine gun or him cracking his knuckles next to the bike......
0_0

 

[AEMehr]

Oh sorry, I honestly didn't know you wanted that drawn, I thought that was a joke. ^_^; If you want it, I can do it, but it may come after the others since drawing real-life animals is harder for me.

And just in case I can't get it drawn because of issues with drawing real-life animals, here's a drawing of Squiggly and Big Band:

Spoiler

Oh jeez Leviathan grew a stache.

y u draw so gud

 

[Hotfeet444]

.....

I am having a hard time deciding whether I want a picture of him firing the bike's machine gun or him cracking his knuckles next to the bike......
0_0

How about meeting it half way and have him standing on an immobile bike while holding a gun and/or his chain?

 

[Deleted member]

How about meeting it half way and have him standing on an immobile bike while holding a gun and/or his chain?

That would work.
Maybe even half way on that, and have him hold a gun in one hand and a chain in another.

 

[Hotfeet444]

That would work.
Maybe even half way on that, and have him hold a gun in one hand and a chain in another.

Alrighty then.

Oh jeez Leviathan grew a stache.

y u draw so gud

I don't know really, probably because I've been doing it for a while and you learn over time? And by over-time I mean about 8 or so years.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

What about Dark Dawn? In this comparison to Earthbound, Isaac would get in several years after the release of the latest game in his series, and likely wouldn't get a second character until a new release several installments later (like Lucas in Brawl) when the bar for inclusion is lower than it is currently, because GS doesn't need two reps, as cool as that'd be. So it really wouldn't be until like... SSB6, even though the series will like reinvent itself by then. At this point, even with Dark Dawn, Golden Sun is not really in a position where it warrants more than a single character.

And yes, Golden Sun is generally more popular in NA than the Mother series, but in Japan (which usually gets priority) Mother is a big deal. Like, a really big deal, much more than GS is in America. And keep in mind that originally Sakurai was only planning to have Ness (64), then Lucas without Ness (Melee), and then only when the roster got as big as it did did he have both characters. Also, Ness and Lucas (and other Mother characters) have a lot of popularity in Japan, whereas Isaac is really the only GS character to have popularity anywhere... so without demand, it's unlikely Sakurai would bother adding another character for a series like GS unless GS gets a lot bigger and more popular post-SSB4.

There's patterns and then there is being exactly the same as every roster. That's like saying we can't get a DK rep because we only get a DK rep every 3 games. So King K. Rool wouldn't get in until SSB6. And if it's more popular than Mother in NA, I might consider adding a second rep on my roster. Also i don't Issac is not the only GS rep to have popularity anywhere. Unless you are reffering to partners in which case you're probably right. I was considering adding Karis to my roster, but I don't know yet. It may be more so that SHE is unpopular rather than GS.

Also characters are not forbidden from inclusion because they are not popular on Smashboards. Nor do characters get in because they ARE.

I guess I'll make a pro & con list for Karis (which will most likely end up in "NO")

 

[3Bismyname]

ur better off leaving Karis off ur roster honestly.

 

[FlareHabanero]

When it comes to popularity, it seems like it's more a selective thing. As in, trying to include a handful of things in order to please the fans. However, along with popular choices comes along the other half, which are characters that are chosen as more of a surprise.

It's how it was done in Melee anyhow, and presumably Brawl.

 

[TheCreator]

I don't think any new series will get more than one rep. Mostly because new series that have chances of being added are generally small, like xenoblade or GS and C&P. As far as Retros I've liked the idea of Muddy Mole for a while, as well as Duck Hunt Dog. A super wtf, like R.O.B

What do you fellows generally feel about Pacman.

 

[N3ON]

There's patterns and then there is being exactly the same as every roster.

Well obviously. You were the one who brought up the Earthbound comparison, I was just saying like Earthbound, it would probably also take GS three games to go from one to two characters, and only if we got a new popular GS game like Mother did with Mother 3. I'm not saying it's an absolute, but you can't expect two characters to be added from a series like GS at the same, and inaugural, time (unless Sakurai was absolutely desperate for semi-clones).

That's like saying we can't get a DK rep because we only get a DK rep every 3 games. So King K. Rool wouldn't get in until SSB6.

I think you were missing the point of my comparison.

And if it's more popular than Mother in NA, I might consider adding a second rep on my roster.

Many series are more popular than Mother in NA, it's not a huge accomplishment. Even though the fanbase for Mother is fairly loud and obvious devout, they're not too huge, it's still a pretty cult series. I'd suggest not adding a second GS character.

Also i don't Issac is not the only GS rep to have popularity anywhere. Unless you are reffering to partners in which case you're probably right. I was considering adding Karis to my roster, but I don't know yet. It may be more so that SHE is unpopular rather than GS.

Well confusing double negative aside, Isaac really is the only GS character with a notable amount of popularity. The second-most, Matthew, would play exactly the same as Isaac, so it's really one or the other, and any other characters really don't merit a spot...

Also characters are not forbidden from inclusion because they are not popular on Smashboards. Nor do characters get in because they ARE.

I wasn't talking specifically about Smashboards. In a series that has largely fallen out of the public eye, popularity is one of the most important factors that even keeps a GS character in play. Otherwise they really only have... what? Moveset potential? Hundreds of characters have "moveset potential". And ofc characters get in due to popularity. They also have to be feasible, sure, but Sakurai has stated numerous times a character was added due to popularity...

I guess I'll make a pro & con list for Karis (which will most likely end up in "NO")

Save yourself the trouble. Karis isn't getting in.

 

[Hotfeet444]

I don't think any new series will get more than one rep. Mostly because new series that have chances of being added are generally small, like xenoblade or GS and C&P. As far as Retros I've liked the idea of Muddy Mole for a while, as well as Duck Hunt Dog. A super wtf, like R.O.B

What do you fellows generally feel about Pacman.

I like the idea of Pac-Man getting in since he's a huge mascot in videogames who has become relevant again thanks to a TV Show and an upcoming game (Although the TV show is...kinda bad), but my only request...don't make him talk, make him make classic Pac-Man arcade noises like he does in Street Fighter X Tekken along with maybe some grunts and some laughing mixed in, just no speaking in full sentences. Oh, and one more thing...DON'T GIVE HIM TEETH! It's kind of creepy.

Also, I'd want to see Snake and Sonic come back before Pac-Man gets in though.