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Swamp Sensei

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Yeah, the only flaw with what you said is that it simply isn't true at all. With the exception of Mario and the 3 secret ones.
What personality did :popo: :gw: :olimar: and :sonic: show? Remember this isn't Gameplay. This is SSE cutscene. Tell me. Describe them.

:yoshi2: wasn't the happy go lucky dinosaur we all knew and loved. He was way to serious for his character.

:bowser2: was too animalistic and took orders from Ganondorf. Bowser would never take orders from anyone.

To be fair, G&W isn't really "meant" to have emotion, Toon Link, Jigglypuff, and Wolf don't even play a role in the SSE story, Sonic only appears at the last second, and Olimar doesn't show much emotion in the Pikmin games, either. (aside from a rare shocked expression where his eyes bulge out)

The Ice Climbers show nervousness when Meta Knight fights Lucario, and show annoyance when Meta Knight "races" them up the mountain. Sonic also shows some upbeat emotion in the few seconds he has in the story.
Fair enough on G&W and the secret 3.

Olimar shows plenty of emotion and personality through text and body language in both Pikmin games. No excuse why they couldn't do body language.

Emotion doesn't make a personality. Pretty much everyone has emotion in SSE. Even the secret 3, however there are no real personalities there.
 

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If you have the characters that's what matters. That's what made it better. It focused more on the characters we loved and less on their locations. And they went through pretty neat places.
Nintendo characters in a Smash Universe fighting an ultimate evil together.
Well really it just comes down to preference then. Both Adventure modes "had the characters", Melee's just had you fight them while Brawl's had you allied with them (for the most part).

My preference would obviously be a mix of both. The Brawl style mass alliance against a greater evil, but the Melee-like collection of iconic locations and worlds.
 

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What personality did :popo: :gw: :olimar: and :sonic: show? Remember this isn't Gameplay. This is SSE cutscene. Tell me. Describe them.
To be fair Olimar did show fear and hesitation towards following Captain Falcon and facing the giant ROB. Sort of matches with his timid personality.
 

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To be fair Olimar did show fear and hesitation towards following Captain Falcon. Sort of matches with his timid personality.
He wasn't really timid in the Pikmin games though. His dialogue and body language never once made him look timid in the Pikmin games.
 

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To be fair Olimar did show fear and hesitation towards following Captain Falcon. Sort of matches with his timid personality.

Also Ice Climbers were quite uneasy about Metaknight and Lucario fighting. They were all shiverish and scared.

Sonic was all like nah-uh like his usual self, except silent.

G&W was just being playful.

And Olimar... eh... I don't really care about Olimar, lol. But he was scared too until Captain Falcon led the way.
 

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He wasn't really timid in the Pikmin games though. His dialogue and body language never once made him look timid in the Pikmin games.
He didn't really show much personality in what I remember from the Pikmin games, sure he was determined and brave enough to actually do what he did, but I do remember him encouraging himself to be courageous and second guessing a few of his decisions (though I wouldn't be able to tell you when he did these things)... so I'd what little personality he did have was captured... adequately for a character who was mostly dragged around the whole Adventure mode.
 

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By the way, to trail on the characteristics thing for a second, but in my eyes having character would actually be a factor in terms of desires. Not a personality, but character, as in more like archetypes and capabilities. You know, the identity that gives a character it's character. Which is probably what the "makes people want to play the game" criteria is talking about, something to gravitate people towards a character even if said character isn't well known or very off the wall. Cool, crude, quirky, cute, tough, whatever, there has to be that charm to win hearts.
 

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What personality did :popo: :gw: :olimar: and :sonic: show? Remember this isn't Gameplay. This is SSE cutscene. Tell me. Describe them.

:yoshi2: wasn't the happy go lucky dinosaur we all knew and loved. He was way to serious for his character.

:bowser2: was too animalistic and took orders from Ganondorf. Bowser would never take orders from anyone.
Ice Climbers were happy partners who cared for each other, They weren't very different from Kirby, they just had less screen time.

Game & Watch acts as he does in SSB games, he never had a character.

Sonic showed off and had attitude when toying with Tabuu as he does with Eggman or other monsters in the games.

How is Bowser too animalistic? Because he made animal sounds? He was no more animalistic than he was in recent Mario games. And he didn't take orders from Ganondorf, they worked together. Bowser likes doing the dirty work himself, so Ganondorf let him while he attended to more simple matters, Ganondorf usually lets his minions do the harder work for him. If anyone took orders it was Ganondorf, and it's because he liked the plans Master Hand had. He found the Hand to be a worthy accomplice which is why he tried to defend him from Tabuu.

Yoshi was pretty serious in Yoshi's Story, more than he was in SSE. And at times he WAS the Happy Go Lucky Dinosaur we know and love in SSE. Like when they all posed before saving Lucas, Poke'mon Trainer and the swordsmen. Yoshi can be both (as seen in Yoshi's Story.)

Olimar has that "Good, grief!" Attitude he always has, go back and watch the cut scene of him and Captain Falcon.
 

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Eh. I'm tired of arguing.

You guys win.

EDIT: Noah...You didn't have to like that post. There's no reason for that.
 

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Maybe they'll have some cut scenes, but with a smaller adventure mode. We can only hope, I just want more characters to play as.

Noah...You didn't have to like that post. There's no reason for that.
Uhh....Is there a problem with that? You said you're tired of arguing about something off topic and that you agreed. Why do you have to assume I'm trolling? People are being really picky lately. :glare:
 

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Well that's utterly annoying, a whole discussion happened without me even knowing. Stupid Alerts not telling me when post get posted on here. -_-

Someone catch me up pl0x? xD
 

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Well that's utterly annoying, a whole discussion happened without me even knowing. Stupid Alerts not telling me when post get posted on here. -_-

Someone catch me up pl0x? xD
We were just talking about the removal of SSE and critiquing the epic cut scenes and which Adventure Mode is better and stupid stuff. But, we're done talking about that now.
 

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Everyone is gay for Marth.
Roy's our boy he has T3H PH1R3!!! :roymelee: :roymelee: :roymelee:
Corn is Inevititabel!
You won't get sympathy from Ike's friends.
Lucina is bravest and courageous.
Leif's garden shop.
Sigurd is lurking, yo.
Your favorite Lord is ****.
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Everyone is gay for Marth.
Roy's our boy he has T3H PH1R3!!! :roymelee: :roymelee: :roymelee:
Corn is Inevititabel!
You won't get sympathy from Ike's friends.
Lucina is bravest and courageous.
Leif's garden shop.
Sigurd is lurking, yo.
Your favorite Lord is ****.
Micaiah is best/worst waifu.
Nobody gives a damn about Alm.
Ephraim is good because lance.
You forgot one.

Tharja and Owain are shoe-ins for Smash4
 

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Everyone is gay for Marth.
Roy's our boy he has T3H PH1R3!!! :roymelee: :roymelee: :roymelee:
Corn is Inevititabel!
You won't get sympathy from Ike's friends.
Lucina is bravest and courageous.
Leif's garden shop.
Sigurd is lurking, yo.
Your favorite Lord is ****.
Micaiah is best/worst waifu.
Nobody gives a damn about Alm.
Ephraim is good because lance.
Hah, it's funny because I'm playing Awakening as we speak. :p Just got it today, it's pretty good so far. :)
 

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Soooo, despite the fact that he's a second Yoshi rep.........is there any reason why Shy Guy can't be in Smash? I mean I know he's an enemy, but he's kind of the most occuring character and has like 100 variations of himself to make into a move set. I know we haven't had an enemy character yet, but I see Shy Guy as an exception because he's so iconic in the series, probably one of the most notable characters in Yoshi and appears in every one all the time. Kamek is sort of the main villian, but we don't need another character that uses mystical powers, we have enough of those. I don't see any reason not to have Shy Guy besides 2 Yoshi reps being unlikely.

*Waits for disapproval*
 

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Soooo, despite the fact that he's a second Yoshi rep.........is there any reason why Shy Guy can't be in Smash? I mean I know he's an enemy, but he's kind of the most occuring character and has like 100 variations of himself to make into a move set. I know we haven't had an enemy character yet, but I see Shy Guy as an exception because he's so iconic in the series, probably one of the most notable characters in Yoshi and appears in every one all the time. Kamek is sort of the main villian, but we don't need another character that uses mystical powers, we have enough of those. I don't see any reason not to have Shy Guy besides 2 Yoshi reps being unlikely.

*Waits for disapproval*
we also have like 100 variations of Goomba but you don't see him playable instead of Bowser pretty much every thing you typed could apply to goombas (god I love goombas no idea what the plural of a goomba is)

and Kamek wouldn't play like the 2 other magic guys we have (earthbound isn't magic its psychic .... I think)
 

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Even though I want him gone, I have a feeling Sonic will stay. No way will Sega and Nintendo pass on the whole 'Mario v Mega Man v Sonic' idea.
 

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It's gonna get addicting, keep playing.
I got my copy like 2 weeks ago XD and I just beat chapter 23... It went well for the most part... Almost lost B- oh wait that's sort of a spoiler depending on where you are in the story. And I lost Lissa DX Damn you stairs always spawning enemies!
 

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How come everyone wants Sonic out? Just saying, he's more likely to stay in Smash than Snake does.

After all, a blue hedgehog that runs very fast who is best friends with a two-tailed fox and has someone named "Eggman" as his nemesis has a higher chance to stay in a kids friendly franchise like Smash Bros than a genetically created super soldier (with guns) sent out to prevent the deployment of a gargantuan world-devastating machine, even if he has to murder many in order to do so.

And before you ask: No, I'm not a Sonic fanboy. (Just in case)
 

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How come everyone wants Sonic out? Just saying, he's more likely to stay in Smash than Snake does.

After all, a blue hedgehog that runs very fast who is best friends with a two-tailed fox and has someone named "Eggman" as his nemesis has a higher chance to stay in a kids friendly franchise like Smash Bros than a genetically created super soldier (with guns) sent out to prevent the deployment of a gargantuan world-devastating machine, even if he has to murder many in order to do so.

And before you ask: No, I'm not a Sonic fanboy. (Just in case)
me personally, i've hated the series for a few years now and i hated him in Brawl so that's why i don't want him back.
 

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How come everyone wants Sonic out? Just saying, he's more likely to stay in Smash than Snake does.
I'm just not a fan of his series and find his personality to be fairly irritating but with that said, I am aware that he has a better chance than Snake to be in this game simply because of the whole Nintendo v Sega v Capcom mascot 'easy-money' idea that I mentioned and the fact that Sonic is pretty much in Nintendo's hands now.
 

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we also have like 100 variations of Goomba but you don't see him playable instead of Bowser pretty much every thing you typed could apply to goombas (god I love goombas no idea what the plural of a goomba is)

and Kamek wouldn't play like the 2 other magic guys we have (earthbound isn't magic its psychic .... I think)
It's not really the same as goombas. And again, Just because somebody has moves different from someone else doesn't make them unique from those people. And I didn't say Magic I said "Mystical Powers" This applies for Psynergy, PSI, Poke'mon, Zelda, & Palutena. Also Goomba's do not have nearly as many variations of Shy Guy or very many at all. Shy Guy is not like other enemies, He's like THE enemy of the game. And people put in Waddle Dee as well as characters who are just hosts (Duck Hunt Dog & Anna). Also we got a character who was just an accessory for a game console. Considering Yoshi has like no characters, I think Shy Guy is an exception.

But, I'd rather not start a whole Shy Guy discussion.
 
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