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Of the characters from Smash 64, only the starting 8, Luigi, and Captain Falcon can be considered 100% untouchable.

Ness is highly unlikely to be cut, but it was planned at one point in the series that he would be, meaning he isn't quite as untouchable. The fact his intended replacement for Melee managed to be added alongside him in Brawl is a good sign, though. And Ness wasn't low priority.
Jigglypuff was low priority in Brawl and will very likely be low priority again in Smash 4. She is not held in as high regard as the other 11, and that may possibly be for the fact that she was added to be a deliberately weak character (in other words, a joke character). Given Sakurai's statements on how he looks at which Pokémon are popular and marketable, this also holds a proverbial guillotine over her head unless something major happens.

Bonus points if he has a **** eating grin like this:

But of course. It only adds to the reasoning why even straight men are gay for Marth.
 

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To put in unique Nintendo characters also.
I would think it would be good to make new characters while giving the right amount of representation, I would suspect the DLC would have to be something easy to do, like make past characters who were cut.
I would think sakurai would focus on unique veteran's that people know and love first before newcomers. Come to think of it past 2 installment's the veterans were finished first then the newcomer's were added I dont think it would be any different this time.
 

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Of the characters from Smash 64, only the starting 8, Luigi, and Captain Falcon can be considered 100% untouchable.

Ness is highly unlikely to be cut, but it was planned at one point in the series that he would be, meaning he isn't quite as untouchable. The fact his intended replacement for Melee managed to be added alongside him in Brawl is a good sign, though. And Ness wasn't low priority.
Jigglypuff was low priority and will very likely be low priority again in Smash 4. She is not held in as high regard as the other 11, and that may possibly be for the fact that she was added to be a deliberately weak character (in other words, a joke character).
Low game priority =/= to Sakurai's overall priority. You really think Wolf's being cut then? He is after Jigglypuff in game data, or "low priority" in your words. Jiggs most likely narrowly escaped the Melee cuts(Roy, Mewtwo, Dr.Mario) So the fact that Mewtwo's being considered practically means Jigglypuff is already in going by that logic because it was higher priority during Brawl's development. Not to mention the game isn't being programmed in the exact same order as Brawl so it probably won't be low priority at all. Ness was to be replaced by Lucas in melee, but now that the original twelve have been in 3 smash games now, it's unlikely that they'll ever be considered for cuts again.
 

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Of the characters from Smash 64, only the starting 8, Luigi, and Captain Falcon can be considered 100% untouchable.

Ness is highly unlikely to be cut, but it was planned at one point in the series that he would be, meaning he isn't quite as untouchable. The fact his intended replacement for Melee managed to be added alongside him in Brawl is a good sign, though. And Ness wasn't low priority.
Jigglypuff was low priority in Brawl and will very likely be low priority again in Smash 4. She is not held in as high regard as the other 11, and that may possibly be for the fact that she was added to be a deliberately weak character (in other words, a joke character). Given Sakurai's statements on how he looks at which Pokémon are popular and marketable, this also holds a proverbial guillotine over her head unless something major happens.
I agree. I have a list of characters that have a 100% chance of returning. Here it is:

  1. Starting 8
  2. Luigi
  3. Captain Falcon
  4. Peach
  5. Bowser (Duh)
  6. Diddy Kong
  7. Wario
  8. Zelda
  9. Ganondorf
  10. Pit (of course)
  11. R.O.B.
  12. Meta Knight
  13. King Dedede
  14. Olimar (of course)
  15. Falco
  16. Marth
  17. Mr. Game and Watch
There are characters like Ice Climbers, Sheik, Snake, and Sonic that are pretty darn likely, but I feel they are not as likely as these above.

Am I missing anyone? Included someone not so likely? Any kind of feedback please?
 

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Jigglypuff was low priority in Brawl and will very likely be low priority again in Smash 4. She is not held in as high regard as the other 11, and that may possibly be for the fact that she was added to be a deliberately weak character (in other words, a joke character). Given Sakurai's statements on how he looks at which Pokémon are popular and marketable, this also holds a proverbial guillotine over her head unless something major happens.
Why would she be low priority again?

If anything, she is a bit more relevant this time, being a part fairy type.
 

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I agree. I have a list of characters that have a 100% chance of returning. Here it is:

  1. Starting 8
  2. Luigi
  3. Captain Falcon
  4. Peach
  5. Bowser (Duh)
  6. Diddy Kong
  7. Wario
  8. Zelda
  9. Ganondorf
  10. Pit (of course)
  11. R.O.B.
  12. Meta Knight
  13. King Dedede
  14. Olimar (of course)
  15. Falco
  16. Pokemon Trainer
  17. Marth
  18. Mr. Game and Watch
There are characters like Ice Climbers, Sheik, Snake, and Sonic that are pretty darn likely, but I feel they are not as likely as these above.

Am I missing anyone? Included someone not so likely? Any kind of feedback please?
PT could be cut for mewtwo now that he has multiple forms, PT isnt Untouchable by any means and the only Pokemon rep that is, is Pikachu.
 

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....Things sure are going really slow and boring right about now...

Quick question, if King K.Rool made it in, what look would you prefer him to have? His classic look, his DKC2 look, or maybe something new? I'd personally prefer the DKC2 look.


Now if only we were sure that giant blunderbuss' that fire spiked balls is allowed. :p
 

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I agree. I have a list of characters that have a 100% chance of returning. Here it is:

  1. Starting 8
  2. Luigi
  3. Captain Falcon
  4. Peach
  5. Bowser (Duh)
  6. Diddy Kong
  7. Wario
  8. Zelda
  9. Ganondorf
  10. Pit (of course)
  11. R.O.B.
  12. Meta Knight
  13. King Dedede
  14. Olimar (of course)
  15. Falco
  16. Marth
  17. Mr. Game and Watch
There are characters like Ice Climbers, Sheik, Snake, and Sonic that are pretty darn likely, but I feel they are not as likely as these above.


Am I missing anyone? Included someone not so likely? Any kind of feedback please?
Jiggs???
 

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PT could be cut for mewtwo now that he has multiple forms, PT isnt Untouchable by any means and the only Pokemon rep that is, is Pikachu.
True, and I was only talking about the roster in Brawl, though. I wouldn't say Mewtwo is 100%, but he's one of the most likely "newcomers".
She was a low priority in Brawl, so it's likely she'll be low priority again. It's doubtful of her getting cut, but it's not impossible.
 

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But he's always said yes, and as far as we know, he's never said no.

I don't see Sakurai going "NO! I HATE CHROM! NONONONONO!"

I think most people here just like to project their opinions onto the situation and hope it works out in their favor. As far as I can tell, an FE:A character is inevitable. Roy's going to be an afterthought. It's just a matter of if he makes it in or not.
Completely agree with this, except for FE:A is inevitable. I prefer the term "most likely". But it seems to that people like to use "Sakurai can do whatever he wants" when they want a character that is less likely. Just admit the situation that is most likely (without resorting to "Sakurai can do whatever he wants"), and then make your prediction regardless of that. Predictions should not be about strictly what we think is the most "likely" scenario. You have to put in your own agency into you predictions, or they all would look awfully similar.

Toon Link won't be cut just for the sake of DLC.
I don't think he'll be cut for the sake of DLC. I think DLC will consist of easy to make characters that people would be willing to buy. DLC's purpose is to get people to buy something after the game has been purchased. Being on DLC after being cut on a roster speaks to a character's popularity.
 

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Not a good comparison.
Honestly, though, I think Lyn has a better chance. Lyn is more popular, and is a main character. Anna was an optional character with less popularity. Both of them could easily be unique characters. There isn't much of an argument for Anna over Lyn at point IMO.
 

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Of course. I'm not saying it's "inevitable" like someone else did, just that the reason Roy wasn't in Brawl wasn't the SSE or anything like that, and that an awakening character at this point seems more likely.

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding (and being a bit nitpicky). I do agree that he's very likely at this point, I just had a problem with using "inevitable" for his possible inclusion.

I agree. I have a list of characters that have a 100% chance of returning. Here it is:

  1. Starting 8
  2. Luigi
  3. Captain Falcon
  4. Peach
  5. Bowser (Duh)
  6. Diddy Kong
  7. Wario
  8. Zelda
  9. Ganondorf
  10. Pit (of course)
  11. R.O.B.
  12. Meta Knight
  13. King Dedede
  14. Olimar (of course)
  15. Falco
  16. Marth
  17. Mr. Game and Watch
There are characters like Ice Climbers, Sheik, Snake, and Sonic that are pretty darn likely, but I feel they are not as likely as these above.


Am I missing anyone? Included someone not so likely? Any kind of feedback please?
Yeah, that's about right. Personally I'd put IC up into the list but I can understand them not having that kind of clout like the rest.
 

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I don't think he'll be cut for the sake of DLC. I think DLC will consist of easy to make characters that people would be willing to buy. DLC's purpose is to get people to buy something after the game has been purchased. Being on DLC after being cut on a roster speaks to a character's popularity.
Putting clones in DLC sounds kind of lazy, even if it does make things easier from a programming point of view. Well, whatever.
 

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Why would she be low priority again?

If anything, she is a bit more relevant this time, being a part fairy type.
She was obviously prioritized over Mewtwo in Brawl. One of the most famous and requested Characters in the Poke'mon universe.

I agree. I have a list of characters that have a 100% chance of returning. Here it is:

  1. Starting 8
  2. Luigi
  3. Captain Falcon
  4. Peach
  5. Bowser (Duh)
  6. Diddy Kong
  7. Wario
  8. Zelda
  9. Ganondorf
  10. Pit (of course)
  11. R.O.B.
  12. Meta Knight
  13. King Dedede
  14. Olimar (of course)
  15. Falco
  16. Marth
  17. Mr. Game and Watch
There are characters like Ice Climbers, Sheik, Snake, and Sonic that are pretty darn likely, but I feel they are not as likely as these above.

Am I missing anyone? Included someone not so likely? Any kind of feedback please?
Ike isn't going anywhere, he's the second MOST popular Lord in Fire Emblem.

Not a good comparison.
It actually isn't a good comparison because Anna would never be chosen over Lyn.
 

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I got an account on June 6th but I just started posting today. Any tips for a new member?

I just started posting today. Any tips for a new member?
 

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Yeah, that's about right. Personally I'd put IC up into the list but I can understand them not having that kind of clout like the rest.
I would have too. Personally, most of the characters not on the list I think have great chances coming back, including the ice climbers, but I just tried to create a list of the characters who are the most likely to return. After all, Sakurai just said that they're having difficulties. It doesn't mean he's not going to just trash the character, he'll try to get them in.
 

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I just started posting today. Any tips for a new member?
The most important tip...

Don't bring up any controversial topic. (Ridley is too big, Chrom will replace Ike, K. Rool is not relevant, Lucario will be replaced, Females are more likely etc, etc.)
 

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Why would she be low priority again?

If anything, she is a bit more relevant this time, being a part fairy type.
I agree she is slightly relevant again, but anything could happen. But there's still a chance she can get dropped (It'd be pretty stupid). I'd put her chances at 80 or 85%.

The most important tip...

Don't bring up any controversial topic. (Ridley is too big, Chrom will replace Ike, K. Rool is not relevant, Lucario will be replaced, Females are more likely etc, etc.)
And Sheik vs. Impa!!!! Never bring that up!!!!!!
 
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Ahhhh.....


Mmkay, I'm gonna give this one last go.

I'm gonna break this down into parts.

He can don Urval BUT you need to get his axe weapon level up to SS first and it starts at C rank and he promotes pretty late in the game making it a pain. Him donning urval is totally up to play. In the story he is jsut given it by Caineghis, but he doesn't don it in the story. It becomes up to the play.
Whatever dude, it's a significant weapon and it's a canon ability of his. There's nothing saying he can't have a moveset adapted in Smash where he uses both swords and axes, especially considering all the creative freedom Sakurai takes in Smash. If I were a dev, it'd be a logical move to make, I don't see any arguments against Ike using axes that hold any ground. Hell, I don't even know why you are arguing this...

How is chrom a rehash of Ike?He doesn't have that much in common with Ike to be honest. A better rehash of Ike would be Piram who is Ike's sone but even then there a differences. Chrom being boring is totally opinionated and is not fact. And you are using a single move to compare him to Ike?So I guess that means Lucina is also a rehash of Ike! And any other character that has the potiential to use Aether is a rehash of Ike!
Chrom is a rehash of Ike because his design is based off of Ike. Even his personality takes some inspiration form Ike, the proof is int he pudding CHROM LEARNS AND CAN USE AETHER, and ability that was originally exclusive to ONLY Ike. It's one of Chrom's signature moves. So you're telling me, that having TWO characters in Smash who use the same recovery move is "fresh and unique?"

Also, Lucina is a rehash of Marth and you know it, quit spouting stupid **** to derail the topic. Both of the heroes of FEA were based off of the two most popular and iconic lords in the series, Marth and Ike. It's a simple marketing strategy that has been done in Japanese media for ages, it's nothing new. You see this kinda pattern bull**** in anime and manga all the time. Copying off of previous successes sells well because the sheeple will eat what's popular before they eat what's good. It's why ****ing Nurutu is so goddamn popular. And before we get off topic, Western media is guilty of this too, it's just Japanese media is more subtle about it and thus is more commonly seen there.

Chrom being boring is totally opinionated and is not fact.
The word you're looking for is "subjective," and no it's not.

Take a look at this thread over here:
http://smashboards.com/threads/character-archetypes-in-smash-bros.331574/

Ok, now please tell me, where exactly would you put Chrom? And what exactly can you do to make him stand out from the rest of the sword users. Yes, Chrom is not only competing with Ike, Marth, Roy and Lyn. He also has to stand out from Link, his clone, Shulk, Isaac, Takamaru and all other sword users that we could potentially have in Smash. Smash isn't there to represent all series equally or evenly. It is a fighting game where all competitors have to stand on equal ground in regard to gameplay. So in this light, Chrom has to be seen as an appealing candidate that can do something unique that no one else can to be seen as interesting.

In addition, his implementation has to be simple and logical. I've seen the 'pair up' mechanic come and go as an excuse for the FE:A lords, but lets be real here. That isn't natural, it's forced as ****. People are grasping at straws at that. The best way you could make it work is as a sort of tag-team mechanic, but here's the deal. Why should the FE characters get that over Diddy and Dixie where it makes a HELL of a lot more sense to have it, or why them over Zelda+Impa? That's why it's forced, it's looking for a way out to make the characters stand out from the rest. And that's not even looking at the programming complications of putting a duo character like that in the game. We already heard how Smash 4 3DS has problems with the AI on duo characters, meaning we might not see Melee vets the Ice Climbers because of it, and this is your proposed solution? So the only way out is a transforming character like Zelda, but once again, we already have that mechanic/character in the game. Why add another? How is that different, unique or fresh? Not to mention Zelda already suffers from balancing issues due to the lack of synergy between her transformations. On top of that, it means adding TWO FE characters with a forced gimmick that might not work, when if we got two FE characters Lyn and Roy together would make just about everyone happy adding a character that can do what Chrom can already do in regard to playstyle, but much better, and a speedy swordmaster that is TOTALLY fresh and new in regard to playstyle. Smash has yet to see as super-quick battousai sword user similar to Kenshin, and many have been wanting one for a while now.

tl;dr, Chrom is boring, period, and the Duo mechanic is forced and lame. Disagree, then once again, I invite you to write up a moveset for him to make me eat my words. If you can make a moveset for Chrom that is more appealing that my Lyn or Ashley movesets then I will eat my words, praise you, and support Chrom.

The best I ever came up with was by outstretching what Holy Shield can do, and making it into a sort of stat boosting move and the central focus of his fighting style, but guess what, we ALREADY have a clone character that can do that canonically and could really benefit from it as seen in his incarnation in Project M (Lucas). So once again, why Chrom over him?

Also I wouldn't find any of those games fun as I do not liek those kinds of fighting games.
Then you and I are gonna disagree in just about everything, and that attitude is probably why you and I will likely butt heads and come to blows until I grow bored of arguing with you. I don't care if you like them or not, you should at least try them. Saying "I refuse to play X because I don't like that genre" is like saying "I refuse to listen to Nujabes because I dislike Rap." It is a very closed minded and (rather) annoying attitude, and you miss out on experiencing some really amazing and beautiful stuff. Word of advice, drop that and learn to be more open-minded, not only will you expand your vision and horizons, but it will make you a more likable person. Just friendly advice is all. After all, we only live once, so you should at least give yourself the opportunity to try everything once, otherwise you're not really living, just existing.
 
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Why would she be low priority again?

If anything, she is a bit more relevant this time, being a part fairy type.
Guess Marill and Gardevoir are being considered now since they're now relevant. :rolleyes:

Being one of many Pokémon being reclassed with a new debuting type does not make a strong case of "relevancy" like a brand new form and movie does for Mewtwo.

Low game priority =/= to Sakurai's overall priority. You really think Wolf's being cut then? He is after Jigglypuff in game data, or "low priority" in your words. Jiggs most likely narrowly escaped the Melee cuts(Roy, Mewtwo, Dr.Mario) So the fact that Mewtwo's being considered practically means Jigglypuff is already in going by that logic because it was higher priority during Brawl's development. Not to mention the game isn't being programmed in the exact same order as Brawl so it probably won't be low priority at all. Ness was to be replaced by Lucas in melee, but now that the original twelve have been in 3 smash games now, it's unlikely that they'll ever be considered for cuts again.
My God, everytime I read your posts, I want to punch a baby seal.

1. Just because Mewtwo was after Jigglypuff in the data doesn't mean that she gets a free pass if Mewtwo is being "considered". For one, Mewtwo is unlikely to be low priority this time due to falling within Sakurai's method of deciding Pokémon characters; by looking at who's the "hot ticket" Pokémon: who has a recent movie, who is heavily promoted, etc. Mewtwo has all of this.

Jigglypuff does not fall into this, the same exact situation as in Brawl. Only thing that's changed is that she's now part Fairy type. Well la de frigging da, so is Marill. And since there was a Marill in the anime that essentially took Jigglypuff's gag of putting people to sleep by singing and puffs up in anger when they sleep through the song in four consecutive Pikachu shorts, guess that means Marill has all the more reason to outright replace Jigglypuff since it is more relevant.


2. There's three sets of normal character data; The higher priority Nintendo characters (as in, the "must haves"), the lower priority Nintendo characters (as in the "expendables"), and the non-Nintendo characters.
Characters within these sets are not "higher" or "lower" priority against a character within the same set. Otherwise, with the logic you're trying to use against me, we would have had Mewtwo, Roy, and Dr. Mario before Toon Link even set foot in Brawl.
So while Jigglypuff was in Brawl and Mewtwo wasn't, that doesn't mean Jigglypuff was higher priority. It just meant that when push came to shove, Jigglypuff was able to be included and Mewtwo was not.




I'm not saying Jigglypuff is sure to be cut. In fact, I don't think Sakurai will cut anyone if he doesn't have to.
However, if cuts have to be made, don't expect Jigglypuff to be safe just because of some fan-created theory about the "Original 12". It will make it all the more painful when Jigglypuff is cut if she's ever cut.

Marth is somehow more beautiful then the actual women, how does that even work I don't know but I'm not complaining.
It's strange, but true. Maybe it's that tiara; it plays with the mind.
 

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Guess Marill and Gardevoir are being considered now since they're now relevant. :rolleyes:
This doesn't answer my question.

Why would she low priority this time as well? I don't want to sound like a noob, but why should be low priority just because she was low priority last time?

EDIT: nvm. Realized your reason for thinking that.:p
 

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Slight Update to Roster 3.0
DLC is added, Idea section is edited, Has new Background.
(Credit to Ariand/AEM for making me the backgrounds for Sheriff, PKMN Trainer B, Lyndis, Neomew, Waluigi, Dr. Mario, 8-Bit Mario, Leif, Eirika, Toad, and Ninten.)





NOTES:

Neomew - Just like the lab experiment: Mewtwo is a different form of Mew, but not an evolution, Neomew is a different form of Mewtwo. I think in order to represent Generation VI, Nintendo will use Neomew. I see no reason to give Mewtwo and Neomew their own move sets and make them interchangable (as separate characters), because it's obvious the move sets are going to be too similar to each other.

Bomberman - Bomberman has earned it, probably more than Snake or Mega Man. I doubt Sakurai will allow the buyout to get in the way if he sees Bomberman as a character he thinks should be in. Sonic & Snake weren't added because of the company they were from. And though you can count Bomberman as a second Konami rep, it's an exception because he wasn't invented, but acquired by them.

Mii - When you click on the Mii slot, a small menu will pop up and you select which Mii you want. After that you can select the color of whatever body they are given. I predict there will only be 4 colors available. It's also likely they will use moves from Streetpass games, Mii Sports, and Wii Party & Wii Party U.

Starfy - He is one of the most likely reps to make it. I suggest others add him. He's fairly popular, has a WHOLE ton of Move Set potential, and he appeared in 4 GBA Titles as well as a fifth Western Release.

Matthew - I do not have him because he's the most recent Golden Sun. I have him because he has replaced Issac as the main protagonist of the series.

Sheriff - He's basically the equivalent to Ice Climbers. He would also represent the Arcade and is the first Nintendo Game.

Dry Bowser - He's not his own character in this roster. He is either a 2nd set of costumes or simply a skin that happens by something happening in battle.

DLC


Melee Pack:
Pichu - I'd much rather have Raichu

Mewtwo - Either by himself or with Neomew. With Sakurai acknowledging the infinite requests to bring back Mewtwo, maybe he will be in a "Bonus Edition". To make room for another Poke'mon rep.

Dr. Mario
Roy

New Pack:

Medusa - Semi-Clone of Palutena

Donkey Kong Jr - Semi-Clone of Donkey Kong

Isa
Waluigi
Ray

Here is the Starter Version of the roster:
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Guess Marill and Gardevoir are being considered now since they're now relevant. :rolleyes:

Being one of many Pokémon being reclassed with a new debuting type does not make a strong case of "relevancy" like a brand new form and movie does for Mewtwo.


My God, everytime I read your posts, I want to punch a baby seal.

1. Just because Mewtwo was after Jigglypuff in the data doesn't mean that she gets a free pass if Mewtwo is being "considered". For one, Mewtwo is unlikely to be low priority this time due to falling within Sakurai's method of deciding Pokémon characters; by looking at who's the "hot ticket" Pokémon: who has a recent movie, who is heavily promoted, etc. Mewtwo has all of this.

Jigglypuff does not fall into this, the same exact situation as in Brawl. Only thing that's changed is that she's now part Fairy type. Well la de frigging da, so is Marill. And since there was a Marill in the anime that essentially took Jigglypuff's gag of putting people to sleep by singing and puffs up in anger when they sleep through the song in four consecutive Pikachu shorts, guess that means Marill has all the more reason to outright replace Jigglypuff since it is more relevant.


2. There's three sets of normal character data; The higher priority Nintendo characters (as in, the "must haves"), the lower priority Nintendo characters (as in the "expendables"), and the non-Nintendo characters.
Characters within these sets are not "higher" or "lower" priority against a character within the same set. Otherwise, with the logic you're trying to use against me, we would have had Mewtwo, Roy, and Dr. Mario before Toon Link even set foot in Brawl.
So while Jigglypuff was in Brawl and Mewtwo wasn't, that doesn't mean Jigglypuff was higher priority. It just meant that when push came to shove, Jigglypuff was able to be included and Mewtwo was not.




I'm not saying Jigglypuff is sure to be cut. In fact, I don't think Sakurai will cut anyone if he doesn't have to.
However, if cuts have to be made, don't expect Jigglypuff to be safe just because of some fan-created theory about the "Original 12". It will make it all the more painful when Jigglypuff is cut if she's ever cut.
Wow. Yeah, that about covers it.
 
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This doesn't answer my question.

Why would she low priority this time as well? I don't want to sound like a noob, but why should be low priority just because she was low priority last time?
Actually, it does. Your question was asked in terms of relevancy (which implies you already know the answer to why she would be low priority in the first place), stating that she's more relevant due to the Fairy type. I answered with that doesn't give much a case for relevancy, since it just makes Jigglypuff one out of a statsitc, unlike what getting new promotion through a movie (and a OVA, forgot to mention that) and a new form (though might as well say formS at this point...) does for Mewtwo.

And as I said to Silverjay, Marill not only is also a new Fairy type, but Marill took over Jigglypuff's "gimmick" in the anime. Granted, the Marill only appeared in four consecutive Pikachu shorts from 2007-2010, it still is more "relevant" than 'Puff has been for quite a while.
Meaning, if the Fairy type reasoning for Jigglypuff is enough to make her "relevant" for Sakurai's case of how he picks out Pokémon, it is more than enough for Marill, especially as a potential replacement.

But it would be more accurate to say that Jigglypuff is under the same boat that she was in Brawl's time that caused her (and Mewtwo) to be low-priority in the first place.
 

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Noah, why are you calling Mewtwo "Neomew?" To my knowledge, it's not the name of the form...
 

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I like it. I'm just not sure with 4 FE reps and the inclusion of Bomberman. 9/10
 

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PT could be cut for mewtwo now that he has multiple forms, PT isnt Untouchable by any means and the only Pokemon rep that is, is Pikachu.
Mewtwo's second form isn't unique from his original form and that does NOT make up for 3 missing Poke'mon each a new type and with their own uniqueness, interchangeable while being controlled by the Main character of the series. Poke'mon Trainer will NOT be removed I can assure you. As popular as Lucario is and I like him more than Mewtwo. He is the one who should be replaced (and by the new Mewtwo). The Poke'mon Trainer is more important as well as JigglyPuff and Pikachu. Lucario is someone who might be DLC if not Mewtwo.

It's process of elimination. Lucario is VERY loved, popular, and important. But, he's not AS important as JigglyPuff, Pikachu, or Poke'mon Trainer. So if a Poke'mon character HAS to be removed, I think it should be him.
 

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NOTES:

Neomew - Just like the lab experiment: Mewtwo is a different form of Mew, but not an evolution, Neomew is a different form of Mewtwo. I think in order to represent Generation VI, Nintendo will use Neomew. I see no reason to give Mewtwo and Neomew their own move sets and make them interchangable (as separate characters), because it's obvious the move sets are going to be too similar to each other.

Bomberman - Bomberman has earned it, probably more than Snake or Mega Man. I doubt Sakurai will allow the buyout to get in the way if he sees Bomberman as a character he thinks should be in. Sonic & Snake weren't added because of the company they were from. And though you can count Bomberman as a second Konami rep, it's an exception because he wasn't invented, but acquired by them.

Mii - When you click on the Mii slot, a small menu will pop up and you select which Mii you want. After that you can select the color of whatever body they are given. I predict there will only be 4 colors available. It's also likely they will use moves from Streetpass games, Mii Sports, and Wii Party & Wii Party U.

Starfy - He is one of the most likely reps to make it. I suggest others add him. He's fairly popular, has a WHOLE ton of Move Set potential, and he appeared in 4 GBA Titles as well as a fifth Western Release.

Matthew - I do not have him because he's the most recent Golden Sun. I have him because he has replaced Issac as the main protagonist of the series.

Sheriff - He's basically the equivalent to Ice Climbers. He would also represent the Arcade and is the first Nintendo Game.

Dry Bowser - He's not his own character in this roster. He is either a 2nd set of costumes or simply a skin that happens by something happening in battle.

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Melee Pack:
Pichu - I'd much rather have Raichu

Mewtwo - Either by himself or with Neomew. With Sakurai acknowledging the infinite requests to bring back Mewtwo, maybe he will be in a "Bonus Edition". To make room for another Poke'mon rep.

Dr. Mario
Roy

New Pack:

Medusa - Semi-Clone of Palutena

Donkey Kong Jr - Semi-Clone of Donkey Kong

Isa
Waluigi
Ray

Here is the Starter Version of the roster:
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I'd Pay For Ashley or mona DLC! Dr.Mario DLC Would just be silly, but awesome. I'd hate to see 9-volt.
 
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