Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[Silverjay323]

So you don't want unique characters in the roster? I definitely think it's a good idea if he wants to have more unique characters to play as in the roster.

I mean cutting veterans just so they can be DLC is not a good idea. None is planned at this point, and don't assume that'll we'll be getting playable characters or that we'll get any DLC at all. If we do get characters as DLC, it'll probably be about 3, maybe characters Sakurai cut for time restraints or included upon fan requests. The cuts you had were made, as you stated, so they could be DLC, which is a waste and is probably a move Capcom would make. I'm all for unique characters, but cutting other unique characters and selling them off as DLC will not bode well at all.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I mean cutting veterans just so they can be DLC is not a good idea. None is planned at this point, and don't assume that'll we'll be getting playable characters or that we'll get any DLC at all. If we do get characters as DLC, it'll probably be about 3, maybe characters Sakurai cut for time restraints or included upon fan requests. The cuts you had were made, as you stated, so they could be DLC, which is a waste and is probably a move Capcom would make. I'm all for unique characters, but cutting other unique characters and selling them off as DLC will not bode well at all.

Yeah, but I really didn't want to go over 50 characters (besides transformations) on this roster. I could've added them, but that would probably be too much.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

There will be cuts though, it is fairly obvious. Who they exactly are no one knows though.

I will stick with Ike, Red, Lucario, Toon Link, and Snake for now.

 

[BluePikmin11]

There will be cuts though, it is fairly obvious. Who they exactly are no one knows though.

I will stick with Ike, Red, Lucario, Toon Link, and Snake for now.

There's no real reason to cut Snake though, he's a unique character himself, Unless I see Bayonetta and Professor Layton happening, he could probably be DLC.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

There's no real reason to cut Snake though, he's a unique character himself, Unless I see Bayonetta and Professor Layton happening, he could probably be DLC.

If not Snake I would say my two back up choices are Lucas and ROB

 

[BluePikmin11]

If not Snake I would say my two back up choices are Lucas and ROB

No real reason to cut R.O.B. at all.
But if you're going to replace Lucas, it's gotta be Porky to replace Lucas.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Good afternoon everyone. What's the current topic this time around?

PS: Noah and Arcanir, your description on what Furries are are wrong BTW.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Good afternoon everyone. What's the current topic this time around?

PS: Noah and Arcanir, your description on what Furries are are wrong BTW.

Chrom hate and my roster

 

[Hotfeet444]

Chrom hate and my roster

Why hate Chrom? He's a pretty alright character and a great Smash Bros candidate. Well...at least I think so.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Good afternoon everyone. What's the current topic this time around?

PS: Noah and Arcanir, your description on what Furries are are wrong BTW.

Typical self-righteous furry.
=D

No real reason to cut R.O.B. at all.
But if you're going to replace Lucas, it's gotta be Porky to replace Lucas.

Porky certainly is the best choice for a 3rd Mother rep, but it doesn't seem likely that there will be 3.
I personally like to play as Lucas more than Ness, but Ness is more recognizable, so he stays.

I agree overall.

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[BluePikmin11]

Why hate Chrom? He's a pretty alright character and a great Smash Bros candidate. Well...at least I think so.

The Anti-Chrom-People think he is just your average leadership swordsman.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Why hate Chrom?

We already have Marth and Ike, and the fans for that guy are obnoxious (and surprisingly lewd).

 

[Arcanir]

There's no real reason to cut Snake though, he's a unique character himself, Unless I see Bayonetta and Professor Layton happening, he could probably be DLC.

Snake's biggest problem is he's third party and there are some legal loopholes Sakurai will have to jump through to get him. However, having said that if Sakurai wants him then I'm sure he'd be willing to go through them unless Konami made it impossible.

GPS: Noah and Arcanir, your description on what Furries are are wrong BTW.

And how is that?

 

[Opossum]

We already have Marth and Ike, and the fans for that guy are obnoxious (and surprisingly lewd).

I can agree that some Chrom fans can be rather obnoxious, especially the ones that say he's an inevitability and advocate Ike's cut, but he does have quite a few genuine fans, so I don't think a sweeping generalization was really called for there, Habanero...

 

[Hotfeet444]

Snake's biggest problem is he's third party and there are some legal loopholes Sakurai will have to jump through to get him. However, having said that if Sakurai wants him then I highly doubt he'd let that stop him.




And how is that?

I already explained how Furries, Anthros, and beastkins are labeled in different groups. No need to continue on that.

Typical self-righteous furry.
=D
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That's what I thought you said.

We already have Marth and Ike, and the fans for that guy are obnoxious (and surprisingly lewd).

Wow, I must not know many Chrom fans then.

The Anti-Chrom-People think he is just your average leadership swordsman.

Maybe, maybe not, but he does have the role of being the main protagonist of the largest game in the franchise under his belt.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yeah, Fire Emblem Awakening is quite better than all the other FE games (from what I seen from previous games), evolving the formula.
Chrom should represent that.

 

[Autumn ♫]

What are we talking about for bigger and better, sales or ratings, because there are other FE games that are as good as Awakening in ratings.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

We already have Marth and Ike, and the fans for that guy are obnoxious (and surprisingly lewd).

I wouldn't mind Chrom as a newcomer; don't have much of an opinion of him. I hear people say he has a bland personality and would be a mix of Marth and Ike, but I took a little liking to him when I saw this moveset:

It looks completely made from scratch, so I don't know if the author has played Awakening or not. (I myself don't know much about what weapons and spells and attacks Chrom can use in the game; I only know the storyline, music, and characters of Awakening.)

Pretty awesome nonetheless, even if it doesn't match his game profile.
I assume the Sword Rain final smash is a reference to Awakening's boxart.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Chrom & Robin Team
Two Swords and Magic
Represents the pairing up from Awakening

Main Costume: Default Chrom & Male Robin
Alt Costume: Dread Fighter Chrom & Female Robin

 

[FlareHabanero]

Yeah, Fire Emblem Awakening is quite better than all the other FE games (from what I seen from previous games), evolving the formula.

It's actually probably one of the weaker games in the series. Especially from a story prospective, which tends to feel like a bad fanfiction at times.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yeah but you can't stop what Intellegent Systems recommends for a new FE character. It's probably going to be Chrom.

 

[Arcanir]

What are we talking about for bigger and better, sales or ratings, because there are other FE games that are as good as Awakening in ratings.

Or even better depending on who you ask.

I already explained how Furries, Anthros, and beastkins are labeled in different groups. No need to continue on that.

Except your description of the difference between the three is "that furries are personality-less," which is untrue if we adhere to the idea that furries are the fans of anthropomorphic characters as humans pretty much all have personalities. Hell, even if we include the fan made characters it can be argued that they have personalities as they're made with specific character traits in mind, even if bland. Also, it's not like all officially made characters have nearly that defined personalities themselves on occasion, some can be just as bland and boring as any fanmade character if not enough effort is put into them.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Yeah but you can't stop what Intellegent Systems recommends for a new FE character. It's probably going to be Chrom.

Too bad Sakurai gets the last word on everything. He can easily say yes, but at the same time he can also easily say no.

He's not a puppet like people pretend he is. He's just as human as anyone else out there.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, since there's nothing else to do, here's a new roster.

Total Characters: 50
Returning characters: 33
Newcomers: 17

Cut: Jigglypuff, Toon Link

Newcomer list: Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, Paper Mario, Impa, Classic Link () , Ridley, Mewtwo (Returning), Sylveon, Chrom, Dark Matter, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Mike Jones.

Thoughts?

 

[Autumn ♫]

Yeah but you can't stop what Intellegent Systems recommends for a new FE character. It's probably going to be Chrom.

I though IS was actually promoting Lucina more than him.

 

[Shorts]

Too bad Sakurai gets the last word on everything. He can easily say yes, but at the same time he can also easily say no.

But he's always said yes, and as far as we know, he's never said no.

I don't see Sakurai going "NO! I HATE CHROM! NONONONONO!"

I think most people here just like to project their opinions onto the situation and hope it works out in their favor. As far as I can tell, an FE:A character is inevitable. Roy's going to be an afterthought. It's just a matter of if he makes it in or not.

 

[Silverjay323]

Yeah, but I really didn't want to go over 50 characters (besides transformations) on this roster. I could've added them, but that would probably be too much.

That's exactly what I mean. Some characters aren't going to make it in, and what's the point of limiting our rosters if we assume everyone that those who don't get in originally will be DLC later? I'm saying if we do get DLC, It won't be as much as some people think, so choose the DLC characters carefully, rather than just use the veterans who are were more likely in the first place.

 

[Autumn ♫]

But he's always said yes, and as far as we know, he's never said no.

I don't see Sakurai going "NO! I HATE CHROM! NONONONONO!"

I think most people here just like to project their opinions onto the situation and hope it works out in their favor. As far as I can tell, an FE:A character is inevitable. Roy's going to be an afterthought. It's just a matter of if he makes it in or not.

Nothing is really inevitable until we actually see it in SSB4.

 

[Shorts]

Nothing is really inevitable until we actually see it in SSB4.

Which you will. And, inevitability kind of goes with knowing before it happens.. so, yes it's inevitable even prior to Smash4's reveal.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Which you will.

Stop pretending to be Sakurai.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Except your description of the difference between the three is "that furries are personality-less," which is untrue if we adhere to the idea that furries are the fans of anthropomorphic characters as humans pretty much all have personalities. Hell, even if we include the fan made characters it can be argued that they have personalities as they're made with specific character traits in mind, even if bland. Also, it's not like all officially made characters have nearly that defined personalities themselves on occasion, some can be just as bland and boring as any fanmade character if not enough effort is put into them.

Noooo, the description of the difference is both appearance and personality. And I never said anything about a lack of personality, but if the personality of said creature is more in-tuned with that of the creature they're based on than that of your everyday person. For example...Krystal from Starfox, she looks like a blue fox yes, but in no way acts like the creature she's based on, she acts like a normal human would without the inclusion of animal instinct, making her an Anthro rather than a furry. Trust me, I do my research on this stuff so I can shove it down the throats of those that throw furry insults, which is alot of the internet.

 

[Silverjay323]

Well, since there's nothing else to do, here's a new roster.

Total Characters: 50
Returning characters: 33
Newcomers: 17

Cut: Jigglypuff, Toon Link

Newcomer list: Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, MegaMan, Bowser Jr., King K.Rool, Paper Mario, Impa, Classic Link () , Ridley, Mewtwo (Returning), Sylveon, Chrom, Dark Matter, Palutena, Takamaru, Little Mac, Shulk, Mike Jones.

Thoughts?

Jigglypuff being cut is very unlikely. Lucario is more likely to go that it. I'm on the fence about Toon Link returning, but I doubt Classic Link will be replacing him. Sylveon is meh, and I'd put Isaac over Mike Jones. Oh and WTF dark matter.

 

[Shorts]

Stop pretending to be Sakurai.

Just being smart. Why would you think he wouldn't go to IS again? Why would you think they wouldn't ask for a FE:A character to be included? Why do you think Sakurai is going to shoot down IS?

 

[mimgrim]

If Sakurai does what he did with the past 2 SSB games (Melee and Brawl) he is probably going to ask IS again for which lord they want to get in or recomend if he decides to get a new FE character. Noq th most logical choice for IS to pick is a main character from FEA, probably Chrom thought there is a chance of Lucina or Robin but not as high as Chrom is, for various reasons. It is their newest game, it's their most inovative Fire Emblem yet with all the new features they added (even if the story was medioric), it is the highest selling FE game yet, and most importantly the game saved Fire Emblem's ass big time as if the game hadn't done as well as it did Awakening would have been the last Fire Emblem game in the series. There are various reason why IS would suggest a FEA rep and it is very likely Sakurai will ask for the recomendation just like he did in Brawl and Melee. And the most likely FEA rep is Chrom, but they might also recomend the Pair Up feature to however.

 

[Arcanir]

Which you will.

Or we won't, lets not pretend we know what goes through Sakurai's mind. We can make assumed guesses but ultimately the man has thrown curveball after curveball at us before and it can happen again. I mean, can we honestly say we predicted ROB or WFT?

Noooo, the description of the difference is both appearance and personality. And I never said anything about a lack of personality, but if the personality of said creature is more in-tuned with that of the creature they're based on than that of your everyday person. For example...Krystal from Starfox, she looks like a blue fox yes, but in no way acts like the creature she's based on, she acts like a normal human would without the inclusion of animal instinct, making her an Anthro rather than a furry. Trust me, I do my research on this stuff so I can shove it down the throats of those that throw furry insults, which is alot of the internet.

And there are just as many official characters that can act just like the animal they're based on (or at least show traits similar to them), hell even Felicia and many other cat girls do this by meowing and striking cat-like poses and they're what we'd consider beastkin and much higher up on the anthropomorphism totem pole. Again, there are so many variances of both official and fan characters that the relationship between anthropomorphism and furries is more complex. It takes more to differentiate them (if at all) then just by appearance or personality.

...And I just realized I went back on what I said. Lets move this to PM after this if you want to continue.

 

[Hotfeet444]

And there are just as many official characters that can act just like the animal they're based on (or at least show traits similar to them), hell even Felicia and many other cat girls do this by meowing and striking cat-like poses and they're what we'd consider beastkin and much higher up on the anthropomorphism totem pole. Again, there are so many variances of both official and fan characters that the relationship between anthropomorphism and furries is more complex. It takes more to differentiate them (if at all) then just by appearance or personality.

...And I just realized I went back on what I said. Lets move this to PM after this if you want to continue.

Considering you got the gist of what Felicia is horribly wrong, no, there's no point in continuing if you're going to muck up what my favorite character represents.

Moving on...we already have a Fire Emblem Awakening stage in Smash Bros 4, a character is pretty much right around the corner and it will most likely be Chrom.

 

[Shorts]

Or we won't, lets not pretend we know what goes through Sakurai's mind. We can make assumed guesses but ultimately the man has thrown curveball after curveball at us before and it can happen again. I mean, can we honestly say we predicted ROB or WFT?

>Implying the Fire Emblem process is like that off WFT/ROB
>Implying a Fire Emblem character is going to be an unpredictable one

We have quite a few choices from FE. Chrom, Lucina, and Roy seem to be the most likely. But even behind them we have about ten other possibilities we could "potentially" see happening. None of which would be like WFT. And, a lot of people were rooting for ROB for a while. I remember them specifically back during the Pre-Brawl era speculation.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Moving on...we already have a Fire Emblem Awakening stage in Smash Bros 4, a character is pretty much right around the corner and it will most likely be Chrom.

Nintendogs confirmed.
Electroplankton character confirmed for Brawl.
Animal Crossing character confirmed for Brawl.
Captain Falcon confirmed for not happening in Smash 64.
Ness confirmed for not happening in Smash 64.
Fire Emblem characters confirmed for not happening in Melee.
R.O.B. confirmed for not happening in Brawl.

 

[Autumn ♫]

If he does decide to add an Awakening character, I hope it would be Chrom and Lucina Ice Climbers style or Robin.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Nintendogs confirmed.
Electroplankton characters confirmed for Brawl.
Animal Crossing character confirmed for Brawl.
Captain Falcon confirmed for not happening in Smash 64.
Ness confirmed for not happening in Smash 64.
Fire Emblem characters confirmed for not happening in Melee.
R.O.B. confirmed for not happening in Brawl.

If you could be mature about this, you'd easily see that Sakurai has shown interest in Fire Emblem Awakening, especially considering it's the first Fire Emblem stage actually based on a single game rather than a made-up castle attack for Brawl. Just stating from an observational level.