Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[jaytalks]

well there's our last update for the summer. that's my prediction. but awesome for olimar fans. loved him in his game and in smash. he's awesome.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Olimar is back!

So...

No Pikmin 3 captain?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Yay! 'Nother veteran's been announced! Olimar! *rolls eyes*
:D

Any news is good news!

 

[Starbound]

Olimar's reveal kinda makes me think that Sakurai''s team won't stop programming limitations from including characters.

So I doubt we'll see Ice Climbers or Pokemon Trainer go. They'll make them work.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I'm happy to see Olimar back.

I like how I somehow predicted he'd be one of the next to be revealed way back ago. Zelda, Yoshi, Peach, and Diddy were the others, I believe.

Seriously though, any news is welcome at this point, even being just veterans we're already sure would return.

 

[FalKoopa]

Wait, what? Olimar was confirmed?

*checks dojo*

Ah, good to see. I guess they really are sticking to one character per month.

 

[Starbound]

Hopefully this signals that we'll start getting more reveals soon, even if it's just obvious veterans.

Though looking at Brawl's Dojo, we didn't see any character pages poke up until May 2007, and then they started poking up in June (Zelda, Fox) and beyond.

...I don't think I need to finish my thought on the matter.

 

[Swift Fox]

Olimar's reveal kinda makes me think that Sakurai''s team won't stop programming limitations from including characters.

So I doubt we'll see Ice Climbers or Pokemon Trainer go. They'll make them work.

We've never seen a single screenshot of Olimar in 3DS version... O_O

 

[ZeldaMaster]

Hey guys look:

The stage shown off in the screenshots shows a spaceship which also appears in Pikmin 3. Kind of makes you wonder why Winged and Rock Pikmin were not implemented. Could we have another captain that uses Winged/Rock Pikmin instead of White/Purple pikmin?

 

[UberMadman]

Hey guys look:

The stage shown off in the screenshots shows a spaceship which also appears in Pikmin 3. Kind of makes you wonder why Winged and Rock Pikmin were not implemented. Could we have another captain that uses Winged/Rock Pikmin instead of White/Purple pikmin?

Maybe Olimar CAN use them, and they're going to be a surprise update.

 

[IsmaR]

I'm curious if they're just going to make Olimar the composite Pikmin character. Give him that new spaceship for his FS, Winged/Rock Pikmin, etc..

Ah well, speculating is for the birds and Bulborbs.

 

[UberMadman]

I'm curious if they're just going to make Olimar the composite Pikmin character. Give him that new spaceship for his FS, Winged/Rock Pikmin, etc..

Ah well, speculating is for the birds and Bulborbs.

Well, technically he does have some significance in Pikmin 3 apparently, being confirmed to be playable in the multiplayer mode at least and having some impact on the main story because he left around "notes" for the new Captains to look at and learn from, so he may not be as much of a "composite" character as it would seem, especially with the possibility that he could be playable in Pikmin 3's aftergame similar to how The President was in Pikmin 2's aftergame.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Sucks that there wont be any Pikmin stages on the 3DS.

EDIT: Actually, the Brawl one could be on the 3DS as a past stage.

 

[MagnesD3]

Surely they added the new pikmin into his movelist.

 

[mimgrim]

Young link, Docter Mario, Pichu and Mewtwo were not high priority so...

And they were veterans, making your point of every veteran in Brawl (every character) of being a high priority again moot. e.e

Something I thought of. Considering Sakurai said that there were "No cuts thus far..." there were debates as to what was meant by this quote.

Now, if we don't know who is being included in this game, who would be cut? Sakurai acknowledged the fact that people might be disappointed if a particular character gets cut, etc...

My theory, is that yes, Sakurai is attempting to salvage the Brawl roster in its entirety. Otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense for him to say "There aren't any cuts so far" after making the comment that I have already mentioned. If he was referring to the Wii U/3DS roster, he could cut Ike completely and just be like "Oh nobody has been cut". But Ike would have been cut. No sense make.

This includes Snake and Sonic. Sakurai has not mentioned the fate of 3rd party characters at this point, and I would like to throw my two cents in on this as well. When Sakurai said in the Nintendo Developer Direct that, "I'm not going to put just any character from another company in Smash Bros,", why does that matter? In my opinion, I think it means that it would have to be a character that would have lasting appeal, and would need to make a connection to him, and the players. As we can see, Snake, Sonic AND Megaman have all struck this cord (maybe Snake to a lesser degree, but I liked him, and I think he has been widely accepted in general). With this lasting appeal, it would make enough sense to include them on a continual basis unless some sort of incident occurred between companies

Maybe I'm just crazy, but if it didn't matter as much as I am saying, why would Sakurai go through the trouble of getting these characters for ONE installment? I don't think that is the case. I think he wants these guys in. Not only do they mean something to Nintendo, but they mean something to him, as most of the Smash Bros. characters do.

Its a probably possibility, but it's not the only probably possibility. You forget he has also stated the roster is already "finalized" so by "no cuts" he could mean "no cuts" from the "finalized" roster yet, which is just as equally likely.



Anyway, Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee olimar is back. ^^

 

[JPW]

Olimar's reveal kinda makes me think that Sakurai''s team won't stop programming limitations from including characters.

So I doubt we'll see Ice Climbers or Pokemon Trainer go. They'll make them work.

i started thinking this too. Ice Climbers could be back after all.

 

[volbound1700]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/12/pikmin-olimar-join-new-smash-bros-roster

Olimar Confirmed

 

[8-peacock-8]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/12/pikmin-olimar-join-new-smash-bros-roster

Olimar Confirmed

 

[volbound1700]

Something I thought of. Considering Sakurai said that there were "No cuts thus far..." there were debates as to what was meant by this quote.

Now, if we don't know who is being included in this game, who would be cut? Sakurai acknowledged the fact that people might be disappointed if a particular character gets cut, etc...

My theory, is that yes, Sakurai is attempting to salvage the Brawl roster in its entirety. Otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense for him to say "There aren't any cuts so far" after making the comment that I have already mentioned. If he was referring to the Wii U/3DS roster, he could cut Ike completely and just be like "Oh nobody has been cut". But Ike would have been cut. No sense make.

This includes Snake and Sonic. Sakurai has not mentioned the fate of 3rd party characters at this point, and I would like to throw my two cents in on this as well. When Sakurai said in the Nintendo Developer Direct that, "I'm not going to put just any character from another company in Smash Bros,", why does that matter? In my opinion, I think it means that it would have to be a character that would have lasting appeal, and would need to make a connection to him, and the players. As we can see, Snake, Sonic AND Megaman have all struck this cord (maybe Snake to a lesser degree, but I liked him, and I think he has been widely accepted in general). With this lasting appeal, it would make enough sense to include them on a continual basis unless some sort of incident occurred between companies

Maybe I'm just crazy, but if it didn't matter as much as I am saying, why would Sakurai go through the trouble of getting these characters for ONE installment? I don't think that is the case. I think he wants these guys in. Not only do they mean something to Nintendo, but they mean something to him, as most of the Smash Bros. characters do.

I wish I could like this times a 1000. I agree with everything you just stated. It doesn't make sense for Sakurai to say no cuts to IGN and only refer to his list which nobody knows about. Sakurai is very clever with his statements and audience.

 

[TumblrFamous]

 

[mimgrim]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/12/pikmin-olimar-join-new-smash-bros-roster

Olimar Confirmed

That article links to this article http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/11/the-savage-twisted-world-of-pikmin-3 and the first 2 paragraphs of that article shows how stupid IGN is. lol

 

[volbound1700]

That article links to this article http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/11/the-savage-twisted-world-of-pikmin-3 and the first 2 paragraphs of that article shows how stupid IGN is. lol

Wow you misunderstand his joke. Granted it is not funny but he is trying to add spice to the article as writer to catch the audience's attention (which he clearly succeeded based on your comments).

 

[mimgrim]

Wow you misunderstand his joke. Granted it is not funny but he is trying to add spice to the article as writer to catch the audience's attention (which he clearly succeeded based on your comments).

I don't think he was joking........ And after those first 2 paragrapsh he lost my attention because my antention on it was because of how the link was worded in the previous article. But I'm pretty damn sure he wasn't joking. lol

 

[volbound1700]

IGN often has articles with hyperbole referencing other pop culture items, in this case comparing Pikmin to the aliens in Independence day to make a joke and light of the fact that Olimar and Co. use Pikmin in their game to steal items and kill them in combat.

Kind of similar to the jokes about Mario and PETA or Link being mute.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I have suspicion that due to Olimar being revealed a month after E3, we might get monthly character updates with possibly newcomers maybe getting a Nintendo Direct or video.

It is 17 months from now until December 2014. Smash will be released sometime during then. Bearing that in mind, it's feasible that we could get a character update every month (not on the 12th) but around that time frame.

Of course, that theory can be debunked by the fact Pikmin 3 comes out tomorrow here in Japan so Olimar may had been released only to promote the game.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Hey guys...remember when I guessed that Olimar would be the next character revealed?

...Because I did

 

[ImaClubYou]

Update every month?

If it's just by characters we're going to see 50 or so months of updates 0_0

 

[Reznor]

Hey guys...remember when I guessed that Olimar would be the next character revealed?

...Because I did

same
no idea how some people didn't see it coming honestly

 

[8-peacock-8]

It's a good thing i only said it would be a vet. However, my initial guesses were way off.

 

[mimgrim]

Update every month?

If it's just by characters we're going to see 50 or so months of updates 0_0

Talk about over exxagerating. If SSB4 gets released during the Summer of next year it will only be 10-11 months from now to then. No where near 50 months. Sheesh.

 

[jaytalks]

The releases before the end of the year:
Pokemon X and Y: September (month before release): Awakened Mewtwo
Sonic: Lost World: October: Sonic
DKC: TF: November: Diddy Kong
SM: 3D World: Princess Peach

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Its a probably possibility, but it's not the only probably possibility. You forget he has also stated the roster is already "finalized" so by "no cuts" he could mean "no cuts" from the "finalized" roster yet, which is just as equally likely.



Anyway, Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee olimar is back. ^^

That wouldn't make sense though. Considering we only know thirteen characters thus far, and only 10 of them returning, "no cuts" wouldn't make sense if it were the finalized roster. He could say he cut Ike for example, and say the finalized roster is set. But there WOULD be a cut from Brawl, which is what most people don't want. This is why I feel he is referring to the Brawl roster.

Sakurai has been asked about cuts from previous games, and he apologized in advance for "possible cuts". I mean really, the cuts from Brawl are the ones that everyone cares about. Sakurai could have added Chrom and dropped him already, and nobody would know about it.

I did not forget what he said about finalizing. He could have cut Snake out of the roster before the "finalized roster" but that would still be a cut. That's why I am saying I doubt he means the finalized roster.

 

[TumblrFamous]

It's a good thing i only said it would be a vet. However, my initial guesses were way off.

I knew a veteran would be the next announced. To tell you the truth, I should have seen it coming. I mean, wasn't Olimar one of the first revealed on the Brawl Dojo? Plus, its a different franchise. I expected someone like Peah or Wario though.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I knew a veteran would be the next announced. To tell you the truth, I should have seen it coming. I mean, wasn't Olimar one of the first revealed on the Brawl Dojo? Plus, its a different franchise. I expected someone like Peah or Wario though.

As Jaytalks mentioned, we may see updates in correlation with upcoming games. I myself expected Yoshi, Peach or Wario, but Olimar was in there as well.

 

[mimgrim]

That wouldn't make sense though. Considering we only know thirteen characters thus far, and only 10 of them returning, "no cuts" wouldn't make sense if it were the finalized roster. He could say he cut Ike for example, and say the finalized roster is set. But there WOULD be a cut from Brawl, which is what most people don't want. This is why I feel he is referring to the Brawl roster.

Sakurai has been asked about cuts from previous games, and he apologized in advance for "possible cuts". I mean really, the cuts from Brawl are the ones that everyone cares about. Sakurai could have added Chrom and dropped him already, and nobody would know about it.

I did not forget what he said about finalizing. He could have cut Snake out of the roster before the "finalized roster" but that would still be a cut. That's why I am saying I doubt he means the finalized roster.

Yet there is no sure way of knowing that. I'm not saying thats what he is or isn't saying because I simply don't know what he means by it. But cmon this is Sakurai we are talking about and his logic differs from ours sometimes and he gets vauge on purpos. I have no problem with people calling that a theory and thinking that their theory is true, like I think that he is talking about the "finalized" roster. What gets under my skin is when people seem to use this as an excuse/argument to keep X character from Brawl because Sakurai said "no cuts yet" and take it as fact that he is talking about no cuts from Brawl when he could just as easily mean something else. And jsut because Sakurai doesn't like cuts doesn't mean they aren't gonna happen, when it comes to these types of games some kind of cut is going to happen in each new installment it can't be helped.

 

[ImaClubYou]

Talk about over exxagerating. If SSB4 gets released during the Summer of next year it will only be 10-11 months from now to then. No where near 50 months. Sheesh.

We can't say for sure. Remember how many times Brawl got delayed? We all know the reasons why but it still can happen again.

The website could still update even after the game is released. I'm not exaggerating.

 

[TumblrFamous]

As Jaytalks mentioned, we may see updates in correlation with upcoming games. I myself expected Yoshi, Peach or Wario, but Olimar was in there as well.

I'm guessing we wont see Peach for at least a little while, probably by the end of the year. We already have two Mario characters, give the others a chance. If its not a newcomer next, I could see Yoshi or Zelda making an appearance.

Hey, 100th post. Yay for me.

 

[mimgrim]

We can't say for sure. Remember how many times Brawl got delayed? We all know the reasons why but it still can happen again.

The website could still update even after the game is released. I'm not exaggerating.

yea you are, even if it gets delayed to 2015 it would only move up to 20-21 months, no where near 50 months. e_e

 

[jaytalks]

I don't think there have been any cuts made yet because they are not at the stage of development. There will be a roster finalization, and that when the cuts will come.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

yea you are, even if it gets delayed to 2015 it would only move up to 20-21 months, no where near 50 months. e_e

Agreed. 50 months would be 4 years. That's a long time.

Also, mimgrim, believe me, I am not denying there could still be cuts. I mean, they may even have to cut somebody down the road if things get hectic. I'm just saying I think they are trying to include everyone the best they can right now, and will cut some out if need be.