Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[WizKick]

Just wanna say, as much as I think Toon Zelda/Tetra would be a waste of a slot, I would probably main Tetra if she was basically Toon Sheik.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

The real question is: Do we really NEED another Wario rep at all? I mean idk much about the games in general, but I'd say they're more deserving franchises who need reps, rather than tack on Mario sub-series derived characters.

Of course not, that was never the debate. Wario is fine on his own.

Just wanna say, as much as I think Toon Zelda/Tetra would be a waste of a slot, I would probably main Tetra if she was basically Toon Sheik.

same

 

[jaytalks]

I think the wario ware series has been successful enough to warrant another rep. if it would be anyone, it would be Mona I think.

 

[Reznor]

Also people deny Dry Bowser only because they don't care for it and continued to simply contradict his obvious importance and relevance/recurrence as a Dry Bowser transformation saying the 8 titles he was in meant nothing simply because they said so. Another case of what people think should getting in the way of what would.

wait if I remember correctly people did give good reasons why Dry Bowser shouldn't be a character
I was not one of these people my argument is that Dry Bowser is stupid

 

[FalKoopa]

I think that this thread should be renamed.
"Noah's roster prediction thread"

For two reasons:
1. He is the best speculor I've seen in a while.
2. His mindless posts keep the thread alive (and lively. )

 

[TheLastJinjo]

Yoshi, Wario, and Kid Icarus are fine on their own

HOWEVER!

Palutena has WAY too much Potential and awesomeness as well as imortance in the seri-

I take that back, the Kid Icarus series needs Palutena as a 2nd rep!!!!!!

(besides Raichu, she's my most wanted of ALL!)

 

[TheBakonBitz]

-Main female character
-Been there since beginning
-Been in every Wario Ware game to date
-Arguable romantic interest for Wario
-Always second group of games in the series
-Important to the plot (at least what Warioware has)
-used to promote the series more than anyone not named Wario and Jimmy T.
Just some off of the top of my head.

Those are all fine points, but WarioWare doesn't need another rep. Wario is doing great on his own.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

-Main female character (because she's a female) Again, the word before female.
-Been there since beginning (so has (9-Volt) Yep.
-Been in every Wario Ware game to date (So has 9-Volt) Yep.
-Arguable romantic interest for Wario (That's ridicolous/Because she's female) You don't have to be female to be a romantic interest.
-Always second group of games in the series (Meaning>) She's is always the second groups of microgames, meaning she's among the most important.
-Important to the plot (at least what Warioware has) I guess you agree we this.
-used to promote the series more than anyone not named Wario and Jimmy T. (So is (9-Volt) Name one game where this happens.
All your reasons were either because she's female or something that applies just as well if not more for 9-Volt. Also everybody says they WANT these characters. Read again.

If everybody says that Dribble & Spitz is more likely than 9-Volt and gives no reason why that doesn't make them right because it's a minority. When did you give reasons again?

Also you continue to believe that if something is not agreed upon by Smashboards that whoever posted ever is the only one, where as there are plenty of other sites. Anybody can join smashboards so that doesn't make them better. Signing up to smashboards typically means they have the dedication to go out of their way to discuss something they love. That's a bit more than most people.

Also people deny Dry Bowser only because they don't care for it and continued to simply contradict his obvious importance and relevance/recurrence as a Dry Bowser transformation saying the 8 titles he was in meant nothing simply because they said so. Another case of what people think should getting in the way of what would .I never said 8 games disqualified him. His resume is just MUCH less impressive than Toad, Jr., Waluigi and Paper Mario. They should get priority.

Skull Kid and Ninten have been agreed upon by some on Smashboards. Doesn't mean they are good choices. Not going to get into that though.

If I was the one and only person supporting Wii Fit Trainer, that doesn't mean jack. Also 50 people agreeing on something with no logic against 1 person using logic doesn't mean jack for them either. I've stated logic. You really haven't. What logic is there for 9-Volt? Do tell.

Either way. I have a feeling this isn't going to end well.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Those are all fine points, but WarioWare doesn't need another rep. Wario is doing great on his own.

No series "needs" a new rep.

 

[Silverjay323]

No series "needs" a new rep.

"deserves"?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Those are all fine points, but WarioWare doesn't need another rep. Wario is doing great on his own.

Thanks for agreeing with me, but I don't think Warioware (or Land for that matter) needs anyone else, as well.

I was speaking about a hypothetical situation.

 

[FlareHabanero]

"deserves"?

No, needs. There isn't a series that absolutely requires something.

 

[Sebz]

No, needs. There isn't a series that absolutely requires something.

Except Wii Fit.
I'm still waiting for the Balance Board reveal.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

no i'm pretty sure i saw that he said he doesn't plan on DLC ever to happen at all

I don't believe that's true, because I read otherwise. I'm 98% sure he hasn't ruled the possibility of DLC out, he actually cited I think it was Farcry 3 or Fallout 3 as a good example of how to use DLC. Plus, if he had declined it I think more people would be talking about it.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Except Wii Fit.
I'm still waiting for the Balance Board reveal.

Sorry. Deconfirmed. Balance Board is in the back of the Wii Fit stage.

Doesn't mean we can't support him for Smash 5 though.


And to all who say "need" or "deserve," I suggest using "warrant."

 

[Silverjay323]

No, needs. There isn't a series that absolutely requires something.

I meant that it's the word that should be used instead.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

No series "needs" a new rep.

"deserves"?

No, needs. There isn't a series that absolutely requires something.

I agree, poor choice of words on my account. I don't think WarioWare or Yoshi deserves more reps, which are just branch offs of Mario.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Alright, NOW what happened?

Dry Bowser would be a good alternate costume for Bowser at best. I don't believe Dry Bowser should be anything more than that. If Dry Bowser WERE a Final Smash for Bowser, what does Dry Bowser have that Bowser doesn't, or would make it worth getting a Final Smash? I haven't seen anything that makes him more than that.

Daisy has more importance than Dry Bowser, and the best she has is a color swap for Peach.

Also, surely no series "needs" a rep. But, there are certainly particular series that deserve a new character over another.

 

[Silverjay323]

In other news, I for one am in favor of a new Pikmin rep. Question is: Louie? Or a protagonist from Pikmin 3? Olimar gameplay will almost surely be changed with the new Pikmin additions however. It should be interesting.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Sometimes, this thread just makes me feel like this...

 

[mimgrim]

What could a new Pikmin rep do the Olimar already can't? aside from having the new Pikmin, which they can give Olimar in Smash. It would make more sense to just replace Olimar instead in all honesty as I imagine it would be pretty difficult to make a new Pikmin rep even a semi-clone instead of a full clone. Ofc it would make for an easy character if they get low on time, but I don't think thats going to be the case here. I would rather instead they jsut keep Olimar or replace him, and give him a better recovery, then ading a new Pikmin character as there isn't really much a new Pikmin character can bring to the table. :L

 

[TheBakonBitz]

Sometimes, this thread just makes me feel like this...

But you spamming pictures isn't helping anything...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

And this is what I want to do to some people's heads sometimes...

But you spamming pictures isn't helping anything...

He's hardly spamming sir.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

What could a new Pikmin rep do the Olimar already can't? aside from having the new Pikmin, which they can give Olimar in Smash. It would make more sense to just replace Olimar instead in all honesty as I imagine it would be pretty difficult to make a new Pikmin rep even a semi-clone instead of a full clone. Ofc it would make for an easy character if they get low on time, but I don't think thats going to be the case here. I would rather instead they jsut keep Olimar or replace him, and give him a better recovery, then ading a new Pikmin character as there isn't really much a new Pikmin character can bring to the table. :L

I think the best route to take would be to revamp his moveset. Make his recovery the flying Pikmin, and some of his Smashes involve the Rock Pikmin. Or something like that.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

And this is what I want to do to some people's heads sometimes...

He's hardly spamming sir.

But it's not helping the situation that he is currently complaining about.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

But it's not helping the situation that he is currently complaining about.

How so?

Being funny lightens up the mood which makes discussion more fun. He's doing a good thing.

 

[Hotfeet444]

But it's not helping the situation that he is currently complaining about.

Who said I was complaining?

And this is what I want to do to some people's heads sometimes...

Mewtwo didn't want the Pokemon Trainer to come back, so he killed his pokemon by crushing them inside their pokeballs.

 

[Silverjay323]

What could a new Pikmin rep do the Olimar already can't? aside from having the new Pikmin, which they can give Olimar in Smash. It would make more sense to just replace Olimar instead in all honesty as I imagine it would be pretty difficult to make a new Pikmin rep even a semi-clone instead of a full clone. Ofc it would make for an easy character if they get low on time, but I don't think thats going to be the case here. I would rather instead they jsut keep Olimar or replace him, and give him a better recovery, then ading a new Pikmin character as there isn't really much a new Pikmin character can bring to the table. :L

Sounds similar to the Ness/Lucas argument Pre-Brawl. Differences? Entirely different normals, and maybe put a twist on specials, like the new Pikmin character can actually use a larger amount of Pikmin at once, but all attacks are weaker, for example. Or alter the down B so that, similar to Luigi, it could be used as a recovery move. There are options.

 

[mimgrim]

I think the best route to take would be to revamp his moveset. Make his recovery the flying Pikmin, and some of his Smashes involve the Rock Pikmin. Or something like that.

I agree on the recovery, but only if he has a Fying Pikmin plucked. He should only be able to use a Rock Pikmin if it is plucked and next in line. Not having it this way just takes away from the game he reps. Unless they can't get around the 3DS limitations and the Pikmin fall under the category of IC like characters. Then I would be ok with that. But other wise he needs to pluck. ;-;

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I agree, poor choice of words on my account. I don't think WarioWare or Yoshi deserves more reps, which are just branch offs of Mario.

Mario is just a branch off of Donkey Kong, it doesn't deserve any more reps.

I don't agree that just being a spin-off should automatically disqualify a series or sub-series from getting another character. While I wouldn't advocate for one personally, nor would I know enough to say who it might be, I think that the Wario series has enough going for it that I could see another character happening.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I agree on the recovery, but only if he has a Fying Pikmin plucked. He should only be able to use a Rock Pikmin if it is plucked and next in line. Not having it this way just takes away from the game he reps. Unless they can't get around the 3DS limitations and the Pikmin fall under the category of IC like characters. Then I would be ok with that. But other wise he needs to pluck. ;-;

Personally I disagree. I think your idea might be a decent thought however. Maybe make it so that the more flying Pikmin Olimar has, the greater the recovery, or something like that.

 

[mimgrim]

Sounds similar to the Ness/Lucas argument Pre-Brawl. Differences? Entirely different normals, and maybe put a twist on specials, like the new Pikmin character can actually use a larger amount of Pikmin at once, but all attacks are weaker, for example, or alter the down B so that, similar to Luigi, it could be used as a recovery move. There are options.

This is different actually. Anything the new Pikmin characters have, Olimar can be given to. And their Smash Attacks revolve around the Pikmin not offering for many differnies, they could change the Tilt Attacks some and the few other attacks that didn't require Pikmin, but thats all I could see. Anything they can be given, like more Pikmin or new Pikmin, Olimar can easily be given.

 

[jaytalks]

Although the Wario Ware and Yoshi series started as spin-offs, I think they have had enough quality games where we should stop discounting them as such. Yoshi has less viable, playable characters than Wario, however. But Wario's games take place in a pseudo-real world, far from Mushroom kingdom.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Ugh, I come back on here for another stupid Noah argument. I'm sorry, even if we moved on from it, but can't we all just ignore him? I'm pretty open-minded, but I don't tolerate trolls.

 

[mimgrim]

Personally I disagree. I think your idea might be a decent thought however. Maybe make it so that the more flying Pikmin Olimar has, the greater the recovery, or something like that.

Plucking is a big part of the Pikmin games meaning it should be done by the character(s) repping the series if possible. It jsut shows how the game is suppose to work. There are some mechanics from games that need to be repped if possible. To me Olimar without his plucking is like Mario or Luigi without fireballs or Fox, Falco, and Wolf without their blaster. :/

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Mewtwo didn't want the Pokemon Trainer to come back, so he killed his pokemon by crushing them inside their pokeballs.

That hurt brah.

That really hurts...

Ugh, I come back on here for another stupid Noah argument. I'm sorry, even if we moved on from it, but can't we all just ignore him? I'm pretty open-minded, but I don't tolerate trolls.

Said thing is that he isn't a troll.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Sorry. Deconfirmed. Balance Board is in the back of the Wii Fit stage.

Doesn't mean we can't support him for Smash 5 though.


And to all who say "need" or "deserve," I suggest using "warrant."

But Toon Link is in the Spirit Tracks stage.

 

[mimgrim]

But Toon Link is in the Spirit Tracks stage.

How many times has it been stated the Spirit Tracks Link is not the same as Toon Link from WW. .________.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Plucking is a big part of the Pikmin games meaning it should be done by the character(s) repping the series if possible. It jsut shows how the game is suppose to work. There are some mechanics from games that need to be repped if possible. To me Olimar without his plucking is like Mario or Luigi without fireballs or Fox, Falco, and Wolf without their blaster. :/

To be clear, i'm not saying he shouldn't pluck ANY Pikmin. I meant for Olimar to pluck the original colors (red, blue, yellow,purple, white), and then just have the newer types have different roles. I mean really, the Rock Pikmin would basically serve the same role as the Purple Pikmin if they were being thrown.

 

[Curious Villager]

But Toon Link is in the Spirit Tracks stage.

Where? All I see is the Link from Spirit Tracks in a train conductors outfit.

And Noah is back? How many times han't that guy been banned and unbanned so far?