Roster Prediction Discussion Thread

[FalKoopa]

How many times has it been stated the Spirit Tracks Link is not the same as Toon Link from WW. .________.

I believe he was joking.

Look at the post that he quoted.

 

[Reznor]

But Toon Link is in the Spirit Tracks stage.

I don't know much about Zelda stuff but isn't the Spirt Tracks Link different from the Wind Waker Link something about reincarnation so its possible to have 2 Toon Links
i'm probably horribly wrong

 

[Hotfeet444]

That hurt brah.

That really hurts...



Said thing is that he isn't a troll.

It's okay, at least Charizard lived on thanks to being overrated.

I have nothing against the Pokemon Trainer BTW

 

[Swamp Sensei]

But Toon Link is in the Spirit Tracks stage.

Touche...

It's okay, at least Charizard lived on thanks to being overrated.

I have nothing against the Pokemon Trainer BTW

Still. It hurts brah...

I love you Ivysaur....

 

[Silverjay323]

This is different actually. Anything the new Pikmin characters have, Olimar can be given to. And their Smash Attacks revolve around the Pikmin not offering for many differnies, they could change the Tilt Attacks some and the few other attacks that didn't require Pikmin, but thats all I could see. Anything they can be given, like more Pikmin or new Pikmin, Olimar can easily be given.

True Olimar can be given these abilities, but my point was giving a new Pikmin character these abilities would, in a sense, enable he/she to do things Olimar can't. Pikmin 3 has yet to be released so more ideas may be viable, or, similar to the diddy/dixie idea, a teamup mechanic could be used. Just suggesting since I'd seen no one mention it before, and steer away from some recurring points... God forbid we go back to the Fire Emblem topic

 

[TheLastJinjo]

wait if I remember correctly people did give good reasons why Dry Bowser shouldn't be a character
I was not one of these people my argument is that Dry Bowser is stupid

Reasons against Dry Bowser:

1. It's not preferred by Smashboards.
2. It seems pointless.
3. It takes up development time Yeah, not really.
4. Other Mario reps are more deserving. That's not a significant point because he's not a separate character on the roster nor would it eat up the amount of time needed for it to be pointless or a waste of time.

Reasons for Dry Bowser:

1. Popularity
2. Has an important role in several Mario games as well as a character in spin-off titles and continues to reappear.
3. If you can make a 2nd set of Wario outfits you can do so with Dry Bowser.
4. He's very important as a transformation to Bowser, and others have transformations.

Explain how those 2 ideas surpass those 4 in terms of logic and not polls.

I've stated logic. You really haven't. What logic is there for 9-Volt? Do tell.

Are you serious? Just because you either don't read 9-Volt's logic or pretend it doesn't exist, that makes it so??? I can say that you never tried to state anything to support Mona, that doesn't make it so

I already posted it, but since you didn't read, read again.

1.9-Volt has more move set potential than the others including anything Nintendo related (NES Zappers, Consoles, such and such.)
2. One of the most iconic and on the level as Jimmy T.
3. Been since the beginning and in every title since.


What have you given. Oh, she's a female character! Well, 9-Volt is a main character too as well as and pretty much everything else you said for Mona applies to 9-Volt except the stuff that wouldn't be important for any character.

Also when somebody gives you reasons why something works, claiming to be blissfully unaware that the person did so means nothing for you, it's called "being in denial." It's a form of being unable to accept when somebody has reason over you or equally matched to you.

 

[Curious Villager]

B-But... Fire Emblem... D':

 

[mimgrim]

To be clear, i'm not saying he shouldn't pluck ANY Pikmin. I meant for Olimar to pluck the original colors (red, blue, yellow,purple, white), and then just have the newer types have different roles. I mean really, the Rock Pikmin would basically serve the same role as the Purple Pikmin if they were being thrown.

I would think rock Pikmin would have even less range be even slower and be more powerful and have shield breaking qualities to it, differing it from the Purple Pikmin as Purple no has shield breaking qualities. I jsut feel having the new Pikmin assigned to specific attacks and not getting plucked doesn't capture the essence and takes away one of the key aspects of playing Olimar, being able to keep up with you line of Pikmin for lamost all attacks aside from tilts and neutral air.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

When Winged Pikmin grab an opponent they should take them up off screen like Kirby when throwing up. (I mean upward lol @ me saying 'throwing up'

Also Rock Pikmin work like Purple Pikmin in Brawl, and Purple Pikmin work like Purple Pikmin in Pikmin 2 (stunning people.)

 

[FalKoopa]

i'm probably horribly wrong

Not at all.

In fact, there can be four Toon Links in TWO canon games. (Four Swords and Four Swords Adventures) What's stopping them from doing that in a non-canon game?

And your avatar is awesome. Super Mario Adventures is my favourite.

 

[jaytalks]

I don't know much about Zelda stuff but isn't the Spirt Tracks Link different from the Wind Waker Link something about reincarnation so its possible to have 2 Toon Links
i'm probably horribly wrong

no you're right. I'm just surprised everyone else hasn't heard this already. ST Link is his grandson. And what kind of grandson wouldn't want to see their grandpa fight as a 12 year old boy?

 

[FalKoopa]

2. One of the most iconic and on the level as Jimmy T.

Don't pull data out of your ass.

Apologies for being offensive.

 

[mimgrim]

Reasons for Dry Bowser:

1. Popularity
2. Has an important role in several Mario games as well as a character in spin-off titles and continues to reappear.
3. If you can make a 2nd set of Wario outfits you can do so with Dry Bowser.
4. He's very important as a transformation to Bowser, and others have transformations.

Look I don't really care about the whole Dry Bowser thing but please tell me how he popular? Can you provide any proof on him being popular? His importance is him being a zombie Bowser but still Bowser making BOWSER the important charact. No one is arguing he wouldn't make a good alternate costume. His importance as a transformation is highly highly debatable........

 

[Autumn ♫]

Reasons against Dry Bowser:

1. It's not preferred by Smashboards.
2. It seems pointless.
3. It takes up development time Yeah, not really.
4. Other Mario reps are more deserving. That's not a significant point because he's not a separate character on the roster nor would it eat up the amount of time needed for it to be pointless or a waste of time.

Reasons for Dry Bowser:

1. Popularity
2. Has an important role in several Mario games as well as a character in spin-off titles and continues to reappear.
3. If you can make a 2nd set of Wario outfits you can do so with Dry Bowser.
4. He's very important as a transformation to Bowser, and others have transformations.

Explain how those 2 ideas surpass those 4 in terms of logic and not polls.



Are you serious? Just because you either don't read 9-Volt's logic or pretend it doesn't exist, that makes it so??? I can say that you never tried to state anything to support Mona, that doesn't make it so

I already posted it, but since you didn't read, read again.

1.9-Volt has more move set potential than the others including anything Nintendo related (NES Zappers, Consoles, such and such.)
2. One of the most iconic and on the level as Jimmy T.
3. Been since the beginning and in every title since.
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There is no need for Dry Bowser anyways so I don't see why we need to argue about that again.

I honestly thought 9-Volt was a girl but ok.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Reasons against Dry Bowser:

1. It's not preferred by Smashboards.
2. It seems pointless.
3. It takes up development time Yeah, not really.
4. Other Mario reps are more deserving. That's not a significant point because he's not a separate character on the roster nor would it eat up the amount of time needed for it to be pointless or a waste of time.

Reasons for Dry Bowser:

1. Popularity
2. Has an important role in several Mario games as well as a character in spin-off titles and continues to reappear.
3. If you can make a 2nd set of Wario outfits you can do so with Dry Bowser.
4. He's very important as a transformation to Bowser, and others have transformations.

Explain how those 2 ideas surpass those 4 in terms of logic and not polls.



Are you serious? Just because you either don't read 9-Volt's logic or pretend it doesn't exist, that makes it so??? I can say that you never tried to state anything to support Mona, that doesn't make it so

I already posted it, but since you didn't read, read again.

1.9-Volt has more move set potential than the others including anything Nintendo related (NES Zappers, Consoles, such and such.)
2. One of the most iconic and on the level as Jimmy T.
3. Been since the beginning and in every title since.


What have you given. Oh, she's a female character! Well, 9-Volt is a main character too as well as and pretty much everything else you said for Mona applies to 9-Volt except the stuff that wouldn't be important for any character.

Also when somebody gives you reasons why something works, claiming to be blissfully unaware that the person did so means nothing for you, it's called "being in denial." It's a form of being unable to accept when somebody has reason over you or equally matched to you.

Dry Bowser is important to Bowser as a character? He is popular for Smash Bros.?

If the first question was true, why has Dry Bowser not reappeared in recent major Mario Titles?

Several other character have reappeared in more spin-off titles than he has, which makes that point moot. You are also the first person I've seen make such a big deal out of him for Smash Bros. One person who likes the idea doesn't make it popular.

Sure, he could be a second set of costumes for Bowser, but why not just make him a single alternate costume? Not to mention, a large amount of characters are much much much MUCH more popular than Dry Bowser.

However, if he is going to simply be an alternate costume and nothing more, I have no problem with that. Being a seperate character with a different moveset is where my problem lies.


Unless you can provide proof that 9-Volt has more moveset potential than the other characters, that point is nothing more than an opinion. The second two reasons you gave for 9-Volt are applicable to Mona as well.

I will say it for a third time. Being disrespectful is not something that will bode well for responses to your ideas. Also, if Smashboards "doesn't like it", why do you continue to post here? No one is stopping you. Quite honestly, most people would probably rather you leave than stay here and continue acting childish.

The one thing you must admit is that Mona is arguably the second or third most iconic character from the franchise. Recognition from a franchise is a very powerful factor.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Are you serious? Just because you either don't read 9-Volt's logic or pretend it doesn't exist, that makes it so??? I can say that you never tried to state anything to support Mona, that doesn't make it so Lol irony.

I already posted it, but since you didn't read, read again. K.

1.9-Volt has more move set potential than the others including anything Nintendo related (NES Zappers, Consoles, such and such.) Every character under the sun has moveset potential. Null point.
2. One of the most iconic and on the level as Jimmy T. Again. Bring a source. Name a game where this actually happens.
3. Been since the beginning and in every title since. That applies to Mona as well as you have stated.


What have you given. Oh, she's a female character! Well, 9-Volt is a main character too as well as and pretty much everything else you said for Mona applies to 9-Volt except the stuff that wouldn't be important for any character. You ignored like half my points dude.

Also when somebody gives you reasons why something works, claiming to be blissfully unaware that the person did so means nothing for you, it's called "being in denial." It's a form of being unable to accept when somebody has reason over you or equally matched to you.

I find this horribly ironic. I'm laughing so hard right now.


So like what you're famous for?

To go to other stuff your spouting...

Reasons against Dry Bowser:

1. It's not preferred by Smashboards. Or anyone really. I haven't found ANY community who wants him.
2. It seems pointless. That he does.
3. It takes up development time Yeah, not really. Anything the developers do takes up development time. You are denying fact here.
4. Other Mario reps are more deserving. That's not a significant point because he's not a separate character on the roster nor would it eat up the amount of time needed for it to be pointless or a waste of time. Not a seperate character? You mean, sharing Bowser's moveset? That would be an alt costume, which most of us would love to see.

Reasons for Dry Bowser:

1. Popularity He's popular, but other are more popular. Let's go to them first.
2. Has an important role in several Mario games as well as a character in spin-off titles and continues to reappear. This applies to Toad and Jr. more as well. Include them first. And his importance is debatable. He's Bowser who died. Pretty much it.
3. If you can make a 2nd set of Wario outfits you can do so with Dry Bowser. So what we've been saying this WHOLE BLOODY TIME?!?!? Make him an ALT COSTUME?!?!?
4. He's very important as a transformation to Bowser, and others have transformations. Not really. He appeared in two games where he had a direct connection to Bowser IIRC. Both times he's not that important to the plot.

Explain how those 2 ideas surpass those 4 in terms of logic and not polls. Considering they're not really logical....

Why did I get in another debate with Noah?

 

[Autumn ♫]

Why did I get in another debate with Noah?

Because it's fun?

 

[Silverjay323]

Not sure if the Dry Bowser argument is serious, or if we just ran out of things to talk about....

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Changing the subject really won't make a difference, because it will simply get ruined and/or derailed again

Might as well let this one run its course...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Because it's fun?

You wanna take the reigns?

 

[mimgrim]

It's dissapointing really. We were talking about something that doesn't get discussed all that often here and get derailed by Noah to a old topic. Rather sad really. :/

 

[Sebz]

To go to other stuff your spouting...

Why did I get in another debate with Noah?

^And debating with Noah=Madness^

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Yay, Noah's being himself again. =3

What logic would there be in putting him under Wario?

I don't know, probably the fact that Waluigi is typically associated with Wario?
Bear in mind, that I didn't say in terms of arbitrarily shoving Waluigi as a Wario character for the sole purpose of giving the franchise another character. If it were all about giving the series another character, then arbitrarily shoving in someone like Captain Syrup, Mona, Jimmy T., Ashley, or even Shake King would be the way to go.
It's for keeping Waluigi with Wario for the sake of keeping Waluigi with Wario. Other than the whole "he isn't part of Wario's games" excuse, what logic is there to keep Mario, Luigi, and Waluigi all tied together while Wario is not even associated with any of them? It would make more sense to have Waluigi with Wario, even if it has to break "canon".
We've already got a case where the two are connected in Smash when they "shouldn't" be; the Waluigi Pinball music in Brawl. It contains a sample of Wario's victory theme within it. Said victory theme is from later released game Wario Land: Shake It!, in which Waluigi was not present, and was used for the victory theme for the WarioWare franchise in Brawl, a series Waluigi is also not present in.

You think Waluigi should have the Wario symbol because of character association in the spin-off games. Others think he should have the main Mario symbol because he originated in a main Mario sports title. (and has never appeared in any Wario games, if I recall correctly)

Birdo is often associated with Yoshi, but should he/she have the Yoshi egg symbol?
It would "feel right" to me, but it wouldn't make sense, really. Birdo hasn't made any notable appearances in the Yoshi series. Same goes for Waluigi. It'd be a little weird (in my opinion) for him to have the mushroom symbol, but it makes the most sense.

I honestly thought 9-Volt was a girl but ok.

................

Reasons against Dry Bowser:

1. It's not preferred by Smashboards.
2. It seems pointless.
3. It takes up development time Yeah, not really.
4. Other Mario reps are more deserving. That's not a significant point because he's not a separate character on the roster nor would it eat up the amount of time needed for it to be pointless or a waste of time.

Reasons for Dry Bowser:

1. Popularity
2. Has an important role in several Mario games as well as a character in spin-off titles and continues to reappear.
3. If you can make a 2nd set of Wario outfits you can do so with Dry Bowser.
4. He's very important as a transformation to Bowser, and others have transformations.

Explain how those 2 ideas surpass those 4 in terms of logic and not polls.

Like I said a few days ago, you're overestimating his popularity.
How important is "very important" in your opinion?

 

[volbound1700]

Dry Bowser is popular and important?

News to me

 

[Hotfeet444]

The argument still going? I called it! I hope you're enjoying those books and armor deals!

^And debating with Noah=Madness^

Incredibly true...Rest in Peace Heath Ledger.

Not sure if the Dry Bowser argument is serious, or if we just ran out of things to talk about....

It's not serious to us, but to Noah, it is.

Changing the subject really won't make a difference, because it will simply get ruined and/or derailed again

Might as well let this one run its course...

This is gonna be a loooooooooong night.

 

[WizKick]

I find I enjoy this thread not at all when certain people come to play.

 

[Reznor]

do you guys think we will get another Kirby character and if yes do you think it will be Prince Fluff, Waddle Dee or some one else

 

[Swamp Sensei]

do you guys think we will get another Kirby character and if yes do you think it will be Prince Fluff, Waddle Dee or some one else

Waddle Dee probably.

 

[Autumn ♫]

do you guys think we will get another Kirby character and if yes do you think it will be Prince Fluff, Waddle Dee or some one else

Not really but I think if we got a new one Dark Matter would be the best choice.

 

[Hotfeet444]

do you guys think we will get another Kirby character and if yes do you think it will be Prince Fluff, Waddle Dee or some one else

Will we get one? It's unknown. Maybe, maybe not, but I would like Prince Fluff since he seems to be the most unique. If not Prince Fluff, I'd like to see, above all others, Galacta Knight.

But what I want more than Galacta Knight is his freaking amazing Battle Theme.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Here's a big post for Noah, if someone can show it to him for me. I'd love to hear what witty response he has to all this. Keep my name anonymous and don't include this top paragraph, please. I apologize in advance if he hasn't talked in a while and I'm more or less derailing the topic by bringing this up.

This is a lengthy read, but please, Noah, take the time to read it all.

Imagine that we are doing a field test where we flip pennies onto a hard floor. In the scientific method, we test multiple trials in each experiment before we come to a conclusion. In 9 of the 10 trails, the penny lands flat. After figuring out the pattern in our data, we reach a conclusion, "Pennies are very probable to land flat". Relating this back to Smash Bros., people make predictions based on conclusions drawn from similar observation. Non-clone veterans usually return between Smash Bros. games. Recency seems to be factor, based on the less recent Roy and Mewtwo being made in the game data after Ike and Lucario. There is one token "random addition" in each Smash Bros. game, such as Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B. So on and so forth.

In comparison, you seem to take data out of context and use it as conclusions of your own. In your third trial, the penny landed on its side and started rolling. "This means that it can always land on its side!" is the conclusion you get out of that, ignoring the other trials' data. This is illogical on part of how further trials show that while what you're saying can be true in theory, in practice it is improbable. This applies to Smash Bros. Because the Wii Fit Trainer was added, for example, you claim things like "you can't say my character isn't likely because nobody expected her". However, you don't have a pattern to base this off of, so you are instead using the exception to a given piece of data as evidence rather than using the data as a whole as evidence. Thus, we find the split between your thinking and the "unintelligent smash fans' thinking". You claim a character like Skull Kid will likely happen because there is a chance of that happening. The others claim that a character like Skull Kid will very likely not happen because data shows that the chance of Skull Kid is very low. You may claim the penny will very likely roll again, but evidence shows that it is very improbable that it won't. Claiming the penny is very likely to roll is a grade-A example of the Argument from Ignorance logical fallacy.

With that said, I have a question. Why do *your* characters uptake so much priority over other choices?

Ninten, Eirika, Dry Bowser, 9-Volt, Skull Kid... All top-notch choices you have that a majority of Smashboards does not have. However, you claim that they're all very likely to be chosen because of how important and popular they are to their series... Where are you getting this? I mean, some of those characters actually are relevant to their series, yes, but the question is, why do those characters have so much more of a chance than others of their series. Take Skull Kid for example. You've made it clear that you love Skull Kid, Majora's Mask was a great game and many people love it. But where does his warrant for being in Smash Bros. come in over other characters?

• You say he's the most significant antagonist of the series, but then fail to explain why. He wasn't the first non-Ganon antagonist, since Dark Link and the Nightmares from earlier games came before him. He isn't recurring, and his only game was in an alternate dimension with no lasting-effects on Hyrule's timeline. Why is he important compared to other characters?
• You say he's extremely popular, but then show absolutely no sources, quotes, links or anything to support that, and just outright ignore the fact that Impa, Ghirahim, Tetra, and Tingle all have many requests themselves to this day. Yes, there are definitely some people that have him on their wishlist rosters, but Skull Kid isn't more popular than the above three. That should be evident if you're one of the vocal minority on this entire website to say he's popular. How is a character popular if there is only a few people per populous that support him?
• You say he's relevant to Smash Bros. to this day, but don't explain why. Skull Kid was only in one game from 13 years ago. There were no plans for Majora to return in future titles like Sheik was. There have been no Majora's Mask remakes as of yet. The only reference to him in all of Super Smash Bros. is a small-sized sticker in Brawl and a trophy of Majora's Mask itself in Melee. Where on earth does that make him relevant to the series as it stands?

That is to say, yes, Skull Kid is celebrated within the Zelda fandom and has fighting potential, but he has less credibility compared to other choices for Zelda like Tetra, Tingle, Impa, Vaati, and Ghirahim. You can't just say that he'll be the chosen character because of what he has. You need to explain why he would be chosen based on what he has over other characters. This can be said of a lot of your character choices. You can't just think about characters in a vacuum. You need to be thinking about what would be lost when other characters are dropped out over a given choice. This is why people shut down Ninten over characters like Porky and the Masked Man, Eirika over characters like Chrom and Roy, Dry Bowser over characters like Bowser Jr. and Waluigi, 9-Volt over characters like Jimmy T. and Mona, and yes, Skull Kid over characters like Tingle and Impa. Despite other characters of a series fitting the criteria for having higher probability, your choicesare just as likely (if not more) because their chance is not a literal zero percent.

What I am reaching out of all of this is that you insist your characters are likely for the very reason that you factor out evidence and opinions alike that go against your views. You're smart and want Ninten. Therefore, everyone else who is against Ninten has to be not smart. Another classic fallacy. Again, ruling out conclusions based on what benefits your own views.

So if you were wondering why everyone here is an idiot while you're the only genius in miles, perhaps this has enlightened you as to how we think differently from you. I hope that benefits you somehow, Noah.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Here's a big post for Noah, if someone can show it to him for me. I'd love to hear what witty response he has to all this. Keep my name anonymous and don't include this top paragraph, please.

You're going to somehow delete this, right?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well organized GRS.

 

[Autumn ♫]

This is a lengthy read, but please, Noah, take the time to read it all.

Imagine that we are doing a field test where we flip pennies onto a hard floor. In the scientific method, we test multiple trials in each experiment before we come to a conclusion. In 9 of the 10 trails, the penny lands flat. After figuring out the pattern in our data, we reach a conclusion, "Pennies are very probable to land flat". Relating this back to Smash Bros., people make predictions based on conclusions drawn from similar observation. Non-clone veterans usually return between Smash Bros. games. Recency seems to be factor, based on the less recent Roy and Mewtwo being made in the game data after Ike and Lucario. There is one token "random addition" in each Smash Bros. game, such as Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B. So on and so forth.

In comparison, you seem to take data out of context and use it as conclusions of your own. In your third trial, the penny landed on its side and started rolling. "This means that it can always land on its side!" is the conclusion you get out of that, ignoring the other trials' data. This is illogical on part of how further trials show that while what you're saying can be true in theory, in practice it is improbable. This applies to Smash Bros. Because the Wii Fit Trainer was added, for example, you claim things like "you can't say my character isn't likely because nobody expected her". However, you don't have a pattern to base this off of, so you are instead using the exception to a given piece of data as evidence rather than using the data as a whole as evidence. Thus, we find the split between your thinking and the "unintelligent smash fans' thinking". You claim a character like Skull Kid will likely happen because there is a chance of that happening. The others claim that a character like Skull Kid will very likely not happen because data shows that the chance of Skull Kid is very low. You may claim the penny will very likely roll again, but evidence shows that it is very improbable that it won't. Claiming the penny is very likely to roll is a grade-A example of the Argument from Ignorance logical fallacy.

With that said, I have a question. Why do *your* characters uptake so much priority over other choices?

Ninten, Eirika, Dry Bowser, 9-Volt, Skull Kid... All top-notch choices you have that a majority of Smashboards does not have. However, you claim that they're all very likely to be chosen because of how important and popular they are to their series... Where are you getting this? I mean, some of those characters actually are relevant to their series, yes, but the question is, why do those characters have so much more of a chance than others of their series. Take Skull Kid for example. You've made it clear that you love Skull Kid, Majora's Mask was a great game and many people love it. But where does his warrant for being in Smash Bros. come in over other characters?

• You say he's the most significant antagonist of the series, but then fail to explain why. He wasn't the first non-Ganon antagonist, since Dark Link and the Nightmares from earlier games came before him. He isn't recurring, and his only game was in an alternate dimension with no lasting-effects on Hyrule's timeline. Why is he important compared to other characters?
• You say he's extremely popular, but then show absolutely no sources, quotes, links or anything to support that, and just outright ignore the fact that Impa, Ghirahim, Tetra, and Tingle all have many requests themselves to this day. Yes, there are definitely some people that have him on their wishlist rosters, but Skull Kid isn't more popular than the above three. That should be evident if you're one of the vocal minority on this entire website to say he's popular. How is a character popular if there is only a few people per populous that support him?
• You say he's relevant to Smash Bros. to this day, but don't explain why. Skull Kid was only in one game from 13 years ago. There were no plans for Majora to return in future titles like Sheik was. There have been no Majora's Mask remakes as of yet. The only reference to him in all of Super Smash Bros. is a small-sized sticker in Brawl and a trophy of Majora's Mask itself in Melee. Where on earth does that make him relevant to the series as it stands?

That is to say, yes, Skull Kid is celebrated within the Zelda fandom and has fighting potential, but he has less credibility compared to other choices for Zelda like Tetra, Tingle, Impa, Vaati, and Ghirahim. You can't just say that he'll be the chosen character because of what he has. You need to explain why he would be chosen based on what he has over other characters. This can be said of a lot of your character choices. You can't just think about characters in a vacuum. You need to be thinking about what would be lost when other characters are dropped out over a given choice. This is why people shut down Ninten over characters like Porky and the Masked Man, Eirika over characters like Chrom and Roy, Dry Bowser over characters like Bowser Jr. and Waluigi, 9-Volt over characters like Jimmy T. and Mona, and yes, Skull Kid over characters like Tingle and Impa. Despite other characters of a series fitting the criteria for having higher probability, your choicesare just as likely (if not more) because their chance is not a literal zero percent.


What I am reaching out of all of this is that you insist your characters are likely for the very reason that you factor out evidence and opinions alike that go against your views. You're smart and want Ninten. Therefore, everyone else who is against Ninten has to be not smart. Another classic fallacy. Again, ruling out conclusions based on what benefits your own views.

So if you were wondering why everyone here is an idiot while you're the only genius in miles, perhaps this has enlightened you as to how we think differently from you. I hope that benefits you somehow, Noah.

I wish I could write like that.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

You're going to somehow delete this, right?

The idea is that if someone copy-pastes what I said for Noah to read, that they remove that top line of text. The minute he knows it's me is the minute he won't even bother to read it.

Also my face when I wrote apples instead of applies.

Could you correct that, Scatman?

 

[Hotfeet444]

*Sniff* That counter argument was so beautiful it brought a tear to my eye.

Bravo I say! Bravo!

 

[FalKoopa]

Also my face when I wrote apples instead of applies.

For some reason, I kept laughing at this till I became teary-eyed.

 

[Autumn ♫]

The idea is that if someone copy-pastes what I said for Noah to read, that they remove that top line of text. The minute he knows it's me is the minute he won't even bother to read it.

Also my face when I wrote apples instead of applies.

Could you correct that, Scatman?

Found it

 

[Gune]

Who said I was complaining?



Mewtwo didn't want the Pokemon Trainer to come back, so he killed his pokemon by crushing them inside their pokeballs.

Pokemon trainer decomfirmerd?

 

[Autumn ♫]

Pokemon trainer decomfirmerd?

No, the Pokemon Trainer actually fights this time with Rocks and Bait along with his Bike and Fishing Pole