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Well, have we ever had a Pokemon return that has recieved a new typing inbetween installments? ...I don't think we have. Plus I think Jigglypuff received the biggest decrease/ nerf in Smash history in Brawl after being pretty decent in Melee.
Because designing things is fun.
Why dare when you can just ask?Hey Hotfeet, I dare ya to make a Chef Kawasaki move set.
lol *looks at sakurai's track record of pokemon movesets*
There's a SS stage, PH Stage, OoT Stage and MM Assist Trophy. Saying that only TP and WW is represented is not true.
Shadow for Goroh and Chrom for a Fire Emblem character with a remotely different move set. And again Samurai Goroh is much more unique, requested and important than Black Shadow. Black Shadow should be an AT.
Still working on that BWD Moveset.Why dare when you can just ask?
Let me know when it's finished, I'd love to take a look at it.
I have difficulty detecting sarcasm on the internet; however, that seems to be what you are going for using subjective examples. This is all irrelevant as we have precedent that is fairly accurate in dictating how Sakurai goes about introducing new move-set ideas (Pit and Bowser) and de-cloning characters like Luigi and Ganondorf.
They think that being Fairy type automatically calls for a move set re haul for some reason. I honestly think her moves are enough fairy like anyway.
wasn't sarcasm lolz.
Again, doesn't mean I can't design a new Jiggs.
I don't design thinking it can happen, I design because I feel like it and think the character could be treated better. 
Really? Doesn't seem like it.
That's not what the poll I saw told me.
I honestly don't care. I prefer Black Shadow, and I truly believe that Sakurai would be making the proper decision by imputing Gandalf's move-set to Black Shadow. The F-Zero Smash relevance directly pertains to Samurai Goroh. This is true, but again, this can be imputed to Black Shadow as well. When it comes down to it, voice-actors are important. He is a popular pick in Japan, and honestly, the only real reason I even support Goroh is to get an F-Zero character in. It is the only original series (aside from Yoshi, something that I view as a gimmick, he is really Mario in my mind) without a second character. Both characters have the potential to be unique, and both are fairly overt choices with decent requests. One of them better happen... or else!
whos that?so guys this happened
...and people confirmed it as fake
That wasn't directed at you, I am all for speculation and I thoroughly enjoy discussing potential changes. I cannot comprehend the notion that people think it will ACTUALLY happen though, that is what bothers me.Again, doesn't mean I can't design a new Jiggs.
Again, that's like having Meta Knight instead of King Dedede or Wolf before Falco or Medusa before Palutena. I don't even think Ganondorf's move set is going to be rehauled. Plus you save more time by keeping semi-clone Ganondorf and adding semi-clone Goroh.I honestly don't care. I prefer Black Shadow, and I truly believe that Sakurai would be making the proper decision by imputing Gandalf's move-set to Black Shadow. The F-Zero Smash relevance directly pertains to Samurai Goroh. This is true, but again, this can be imputed to Black Shadow as well. When it comes down to it, voice-actors are important. He is a popular pick in Japan, and honestly, the only real reason I even support Goroh is to get an F-Zero character in. It is the only original series (aside from Yoshi, something that I view as a gimmick, he is really Mario in my mind) without a second character. Both characters have the potential to be unique, and both are fairly overt choices with decent requests. One of them better happen... or else!
the guy in my sig. he's from probably the most well known and most assosiated with nintendo indie game, cave story.
You know what happens when you assume, right?
Well those people are everywhere, let them believe what they will, it's no real skin off your back. They'll have to realize the truth eventually, so it's just a game of patience at that point. Unless they're mindless idiots who don't listen no matter how many times you shove the truth in their faces, then they're very worth calling out.
No, you misunderstand. I do acknowledge that Goroh is the more likely candidate, I still support him. I just prefer Black Shadow as it would be more "justified," it wouldn't just be adding an F-Zero character based on the franchises staggering importance, and that alone. As you have seen from discussions in this very thread, members aren't very receptive to adding Goroh just because he is F-Zero. Black Shadow serves a higher purpose in my opinion, he mitigates the damage done to the Legend of Zelda series.
Aww, I missed you too.
Which in a way is the most tragic thing. Black Shadow isn't necessarily loved for being Black Shadow, but more a replacement part for what many consider Smash's first big mistake.
See, that is exactly why people don't actually want Goroh. We don't need a second F-Zero clone without first de-cloning that character that isn't even a part of that series to begin with (Gandalf). Goroh using his sword would only rub salt in the wound as many wanted Gandalf to actually utilize the big ass sword he is carrying around.Aww, I missed you too.
And on the semi-clone notion. The proper assumption would be that Samurai Goroh himself would be a semi-clone of Captain Falcon according to the evidential criteria of clone-esque characters.
I imagine Goroh would be similar to the Ganondorf from Melee, while also incorparating the katanna into side special and some Smash attacks where he is not as flexible. Also maybe a Samurai Pawnch similar to Falcon's in Smash 64. And of course other differences.
I don't see how Black Shadow serves a higher purpose really other than to give Ganondorf a move set and retain his old one. That seems like a strange reason to add a character.
I highly doubt that CHROM of all people will break the clone trend.
If it is a reason to get my favorite F-Zero character in the game, so be it. I will certainly make it apparent. I don't care if Gandalf imputes a move-set to Black Shadow, personally, as it is a play-style I am quite familiar with whilst one that I thoroughly enjoy. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I can leech off of Gandalf's popularity to get a character I like in the game, I am going to do it. It wouldn't be the first time lesser characters made it into Smash just because a certain character was super popular.
I honestly don't know, as you are already aware, I actually like Ganondorf's current move-set and I wouldn't change it much further to be perfectly honest.Why?
Hm.. interesting. Do tell more.Aww, I missed you too.
And on the semi-clone notion. The proper assumption would be that Samurai Goroh himself would be a semi-clone of Captain Falcon according to the evidential criteria of clone-esque characters.
I imagine Goroh would be similar to the Ganondorf from Melee, while also incorparating the katanna into side special and some Smash attacks where he is not as flexible. Also maybe a Samurai Pawnch similar to Falcon's in Smash 64. And of course other differences.
Ah, now see ACTUAL support for Black Shadow I'm all for. I'd still personally prefer Samurai Goroh myself, but Black Shadow is another acceptable candidate and we all know F-Zero could do with some fan support for a revival.
Trend? What "trend" are you referring to?
Give him the Yoshimitsu Katana-Copter.
I couln't really think of anything. When I tried to with Takamaru all I really came up with was Roy's upward special.
Yes, trust me, I am a legitimate supporter of Black Shadow. I obviously wouldn't mind Goroh either. I am not actually a huge fan of his character though, Black Shadow on the other hand... he inspired me to watch that horrible anime.
