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I honestly don't believe zelda will get a newcomer. Ganandorf is pretty much a shoe in at this point, and I still firmly believe in sheik returning. However, I really can't think of a new character that would be both unique and is reoccurring. Tingle is the only thing that comes to mind...
...and not everyone wants Tingle. I actually wouldn't mind having Tingle if I could get my character too. But there is not compromise in Smash discussion, so I must take up arms...

And Support Ghirahim!
 

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good morning mates, I got a fresh batch of Joe and a few hours to kill, what is the topic at hand?
Uh, let's see, new Zelda characters, bronies, Goku, King K. Rool. Usual stuff.

I think we'll get 2 more WTF newcomers in the roster, it is possible that Wii Fit Trainer isn't the only surprise.
...Mr. Game and Watch and R.O.B.?
 

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Anything's possible, but not everything is likely.
Most insightful post ever. Also, yay, you changed your avatar back to cross-dressing Luigi!

Now, for BluePikmin11...

not really that one thing is new, . . . we havn't talked about king k. rool in a while
Oh? Well I think he should get in.
 

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...Mr. Game and Watch and R.O.B.?
I said newcomers. :p

Anything's possible, but not everything is likely.
I would be bummed if I don't see anymore fresh surprises in the roster, but I'm not going to complain if the generic no cuts roster happens, but you honestly can't deny the slight possibility.
 
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Classic Ganon doesn't feel as inevitable to happen as Kawashima. :troll:
After reading Sakurai's statement regarding characters Nintendo doesn't actually own (using James Bond, Popeye, and even Nakayama Miho, a real person) being too much of a hassle with licensing costs, to expect Kawashima (even after I explained why he isn't fit to fight) is pure lunacy at this point. Let it go; he's not happening.
 

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I made this with the positive and negative things I found about Ridley.

Positive
-Moveset Potential
-A Metroid character and a villain.

Negative
-Can be a hazard or a boss.
-His model would be so hard to do.
-Only popular here.
-Has a lot of haters.

This is why I think he is not THAT likely :/

What do you think?
 

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After reading Sakurai's statement regarding characters Nintendo doesn't actually own (using James Bond, Popeye, and even Nakayama Miho, a real person) being too much of a hassle with licensing costs, to expect Kawashima (even after I explained why he isn't fit to fight) is pure lunacy at this point. Let it go; he's not happening.
It's what drives my whole soul really, I don't really discuss him as much as I used to. I won't be disappointed if he doesn't happen as a character though, I already know how to move on. :p Although it's gonna a bit sad to lose such a bet I've been dedicated for months on.
 
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Happy new year everybody!

Now I think K.Rool is pretty likely,but Ridley on the other hand,not so much...
K Rool is a dealbreaker for me. Him and Dixie both have really good chances. I will be really upset if neither get in, id rather see someone than no one come from DK
 

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I made this with the positive and negative things about Ridley.

Positive
-Moveset Potential
-A Metroid character and a villain.

Negative
-Can be a hazard or a boss.
-His model would be so hard to do.
-Only popular here.
-Has a lot of haters.

This is why I think he is not THAT likely :/

What do you think?
I feel like there is some bias here.
You bunched Metroid character and villain to make it seem like he has more cons.
And he doesn't have a lot of haters, it just seems that way because his haters are very vocal.
So he's 50/50 really.
 

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I made this with the positive and negative things I found about Ridley.

Positive
-Moveset Potential
-A Metroid character and a villain.

Negative
-Can be a hazard or a boss.
-His model would be so hard to do.
-Only popular here.
-Has a lot of haters.

This is why I think he is not THAT likely :/

What do you think?
I'd remove the "Has lots of haters" point.

I don't think hatebase is really that big of an issue. Both Tingle AND Waluigi got more than just a sticker and trophy in Brawl. And Tingle's hatebase was at its peak at that time.
 

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I feel like there is some bias here.
You bunched Metroid character and villain to make it seem like he has more cons.
And he doesn't have a lot of haters, it just seems that way because his haters are very vocal.
So he's 50/50 really.
Can be a hazard or can be a boss are one point too...
And he has a lot of haters...you need to visite more sites than Smashboards.
 

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Can be a hazard or can be a boss are one point too...
And he has a lot of haters...you need to visite more sites than Smashboards.
He has a very vocal hatebase.
Not a lot of haters in general, there are a lot of people who would love to see him but say he might just be too big.
And having a lot of haters isn't really a bad thing when considering adding a character. It's what happens after the character reveal that matters. I guarantee that there were people furious about WFT, but they got over it and now they like her.
Also, hazard and boss are very similar in concept: they are both roles in Smash Bros that mean that Ridley would not be playable.
Metroid character and boss are two completely different pros, and you should list them as such.
 

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I made this with the positive and negative things I found about Ridley.

Positive
-Moveset Potential
-A Metroid character and a villain.

Negative
-Can be a hazard or a boss.
-His model would be so hard to do.
-Only popular here.
-Has a lot of haters.

This is why I think he is not THAT likely :/

What do you think?
Has a lot of haters and only popular here don't really matter, also, here is the only place with intelligent people.

Also, Sakurai is looking for uniqueness. Ridley would be so unique, with air grabbing and the latter. No one else would be able to do that.
 

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Has a lot of haters and only popular here don't really matter, also, here is the only place with intelligent people.

Also, Sakurai is looking for uniqueness. Ridley would be so unique, with air grabbing and the latter. No one else would be able to do that.
''Only place with intelligent people.'' Oh boy, this should go over well.

BTW, with the Uniqueness thread open, can that still be discussed here?
 

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I made this with the positive and negative things I found about Ridley.

Positive
-Moveset Potential
-A Metroid character and a villain.

Negative
-Can be a hazard or a boss.
-His model would be so hard to do.
-Only popular here.
-Has a lot of haters.

This is why I think he is not THAT likely :/

What do you think?
Anything popular has haters. Ridley doesn't even have that many haters though, around these parts it's usually the same 3 people who come back to troll the Ridley thread. On GameFAQs it's always just Dedekong and Vaztor.

The "Can be a hazard or a boss" point, aka could fulfill another role, could also apply to nearly every character in the game, as many of them could be Assist Trophies. Being able to fulfill another role isn't going to drag anyone down, if Ridley's a boss or a hazard again then that has nothing to do with his potential to be that, if he didn't have the potential to be that then he simply wouldn't be in the game at all. A character won't be left out just because they can be something else.

Only popular in the west and the difficulty of making him would be the fair negatives, the latter mentioned obviously being the biggest drag-down as that's one of the first things that came to Sakurai's mind when asked about him.
 

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This thread moves way too fast. I just woke up and there were 10 more pages since yesterday. Could anyone say what was discussed?

About anime/manga characters, they are a really remote possibility. Anyone expecting them is delusional.

@ XStarWarriorX XStarWarriorX : Is that Kirito from SAO in your avatar?
So many alerts.... Can't you guys see i'm busy playing Fire emblem? No seriously I am.

Anyway yes it is, I usually pick my avatars to somewhat match how I look like. So yeah you'll be seeing alot of lelouch or kirito avi's I guess.
 

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Also, by only popular "here", do you mean Smashboards or the West?
Because even Japan knows that Ridley is popular in the West. Being the United States.
Not just Smashboards. So it's more like this:

PROS:
+ Moveset Potential
+ Popular in the West
+ More Metroid Representation
+ More Villains

CONS:
- Could have another role in the game (boss, stage hazard, assist trophy)
- Very Hard to Develop
- Only Popular in West

So Ridley has more pros, but the one major con is that he is a hard character to develop.
He can be done though.
 

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Thanks for your answers guys.
Also, by only popular "here", do you mean Smashboards or the West?
Because even Japan knows that Ridley is popular in the West. Being the United States.
Not just Smashboards. So it's more like this:

PROS:
+ Moveset Potential
+ Popular in the West
+ More Metroid Representation
+ More Villains

CONS:
- Could have another role in the game (boss, stage hazard, assist trophy)
- Very Hard to Develop
- Only Popular in West

So Ridley has more pros, but the one major con is that he is a hard character to develop.
He can be done though.
I think you are right.
This is fun,we can do this but with more characters.
 

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Hey, ever went on IGN, GameFAQs, Miiverse, YouTube, etc? Or are you just not paying attention to the really smart people here.
It goes like this in terms of Smash Bros intelligence:
Smashboards
IGN
GameFAQS
YouTube
Miiverse

I'm really surprised GameFAQS is where it is actually.
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Thanks for your answers guys.
I think you are right.
This is fun,we can do this but with more characters.
Perhaps...
Waddle Dee?
 

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It goes like this in terms of Smash Bros intelligence:
Smashboards
IGN
GameFAQS
YouTube
Miiverse

I'm really surprised GameFAQS is where it is actually.
NeoGAF goes somewhere inbetween FAQs and Miiverse. They seem to think Ridley is obviously too big and that Chrom is inevitable. Other than that they're generally fine. And IGN is only near the top because most of IGN's Smash speculators. are here on Smashboards as well.
 

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It goes like this in terms of Smash Bros intelligence:
Smashboards
IGN
GameFAQS
YouTube
Miiverse

I'm really surprised GameFAQS is where it is actually.

Perhaps...
Waddle Dee?
Miiverse isn't that bad when you think about since most of them are very young, so they don't know if a character they extremely like is first party, third party and etc.

I would put Youtube at the bottom as most of them are older, but still have silly requests.
 

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Alright, I was serious about Waddle Dee, so I'll do it.

PROS:
+ Important Kirby Character
+ Spear moveset hasn't been seen yet

CONS:
- Sakurai's Modesty
- Dedede

That's all I got so far. Nobody's really touched upon this yet.
 
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